MOshooter65202
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I didn't mention the 6mm Remington because of finding loaded ammunition...I really like my 6mm rem in a Rem700 BDL..I reload for this cartridge and tailored ammo from the light recoiling 6mm rem accuracy is amazing!!
'Low' recoil deer caliber recommendation?
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Ya, there appear to be several choices with ~ the same recoil or slightly more with the benefit of greatly increased range, but most of these I've only heard of on the boards or when trolling online for ammo, I've never seen them on the shelves in a local shop.
The only 'local' shop I've seen 6mm rounds in is the Bass Pro, but that's well over an hours drive in a direction I very rarely have a reason to go in. I've seen 7mm local, but usually there are only two options, if I'm lucky.
The only 'local' shop I've seen 6mm rounds in is the Bass Pro, but that's well over an hours drive in a direction I very rarely have a reason to go in. I've seen 7mm local, but usually there are only two options, if I'm lucky.
.260 Rem in a compact rifle. It's almost a ballistic twin to the 6.5X55 swedish mauser, which is a deer-killer beyond belief. 140gr standard bullet at around 2600 fps gives full penetration, and just kills them dead.
Recoil is probably slightly more than a .243, but it's worth it.
Recoil is probably slightly more than a .243, but it's worth it.
Just to be different (a little bit)
1st choice. 243 WIN (cheap and plentiful and effective).
2nd choice AR-15 in 6mmx45. (ammo is pricier; might be a reloader.)
3rd choice 6.5 mm Arisaka carbine. Can be cheap;ammo pricier than .243. Loved mine; was deadly accurate and had no recoil to speak of.
1st choice. 243 WIN (cheap and plentiful and effective).
2nd choice AR-15 in 6mmx45. (ammo is pricier; might be a reloader.)
3rd choice 6.5 mm Arisaka carbine. Can be cheap;ammo pricier than .243. Loved mine; was deadly accurate and had no recoil to speak of.
Just for fun, here's a 100 yard target I shot a while back while working up a load for my .243 using a new powder.
I started at the top left, then shot top right, then bottom right, and since it was the last load (max load), I shot the center last. At max load I lost the fliers, and I've double checked that several times since.
Touching bullets at 100 yards with a rifle made in 1956 (a year after the .243 was introduced) is pretty decent in my book. The chrony showed this load to be shooting between 3030 and 3040 fps, so the consistency is incredible; even moreso when you consider that this load is with IMR7828SSC, which isn't even supposed to work well in this cartridge. No signs of excessive pressure at max load in my rifle.
I started at the top left, then shot top right, then bottom right, and since it was the last load (max load), I shot the center last. At max load I lost the fliers, and I've double checked that several times since.
Touching bullets at 100 yards with a rifle made in 1956 (a year after the .243 was introduced) is pretty decent in my book. The chrony showed this load to be shooting between 3030 and 3040 fps, so the consistency is incredible; even moreso when you consider that this load is with IMR7828SSC, which isn't even supposed to work well in this cartridge. No signs of excessive pressure at max load in my rifle.
bubba15301
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6.5x55 swedish
Hi Daryl,
Did you chronograph the loads with 7828? My favorite powder for the .243 is IMR 4350. I would be surprised if I could equal the velocities I get if I used 7828. I would not think you could get enough in the case. I have chronographed 100 gr bullets at 3150 fps with reasonable pressures.
I would like to know if anyone can get 3100 fps from a .243, especially with a 22 inch barrel, using IMR 7828.
Regards,
Jerry
Did you chronograph the loads with 7828? My favorite powder for the .243 is IMR 4350. I would be surprised if I could equal the velocities I get if I used 7828. I would not think you could get enough in the case. I have chronographed 100 gr bullets at 3150 fps with reasonable pressures.
I would like to know if anyone can get 3100 fps from a .243, especially with a 22 inch barrel, using IMR 7828.
Regards,
Jerry
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Lawyer Daggit
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243 is very loud and can be an indifferent killer and damage meat- subject to loading.
Can I suggest a 7x57 mauser? standard factory loads would perform well on your whitetail deer.
Can I suggest a 7x57 mauser? standard factory loads would perform well on your whitetail deer.
Jerry,
Yes, I did chrono the loads. IMR4350 is also my favorite powder for the .243, and I've used it almost exclusively since 1976, but I couldn't find it during the early obama administration years. Since I use 4350 in several different cartridges, and couldn't seem to find any, I bought the 7828 to try in my 7mm mag. It shot horribly from that rifle, no matter the load.
So, I looked at some loading manuals, and started playing with the .243. 5 shot strings were mostly within 10 fps of each other, with max load going between 3030 and 3040 fps. More than enough velocity for thumping deer sized critters in Az, and it's more accurate than any load I've ever tried using IMR4350; although 4350 will shoot under an inch @ 100 yards without any problems.
When chronographing my old IMR4350 load (100 grain spbt bullets), I did get 3150 fps without any signs of pressure in my rifle. That said, the load is/was 1.7 grains over most reloading manual's suggested max load.
As a note, my load using IMR7828SSC did not completely fill the case, although it was pretty full. With a compacted load, I could have put more powder in the case. With the results I was getting, I no reason to push tings. 100 fps isn't something I'd ever notice in the field.
Daryl
Yes, I did chrono the loads. IMR4350 is also my favorite powder for the .243, and I've used it almost exclusively since 1976, but I couldn't find it during the early obama administration years. Since I use 4350 in several different cartridges, and couldn't seem to find any, I bought the 7828 to try in my 7mm mag. It shot horribly from that rifle, no matter the load.
So, I looked at some loading manuals, and started playing with the .243. 5 shot strings were mostly within 10 fps of each other, with max load going between 3030 and 3040 fps. More than enough velocity for thumping deer sized critters in Az, and it's more accurate than any load I've ever tried using IMR4350; although 4350 will shoot under an inch @ 100 yards without any problems.
When chronographing my old IMR4350 load (100 grain spbt bullets), I did get 3150 fps without any signs of pressure in my rifle. That said, the load is/was 1.7 grains over most reloading manual's suggested max load.
As a note, my load using IMR7828SSC did not completely fill the case, although it was pretty full. With a compacted load, I could have put more powder in the case. With the results I was getting, I no reason to push tings. 100 fps isn't something I'd ever notice in the field.
Daryl
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