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Be cautious with the Bear Spray advice if this is intended for use for self defense against humans. Read the label. There may be both criminal and potential civil penalties for wrongful use of Bear Spray (for instance, you could permanently blind someone if it's way too strong of a dosage for a person).
I concur that Fox labs is what you want for self defense.
I PERSONALLY received a 1/8th second blast of Fox Labs in the face. It was at an outstanding school and my military unit received a lot of types of training, including OC spray. We lined up and were allowed to hold our breath and close our eyes. The trainer just walked down the line and literally barely sprayed each of us.
Now we are all relatively tough, young, fit bucks. It affects everyone slightly differently, but I don't know of a single man that wasn't severly incapacitated. Everyone was in various degrees of pain to severe pain. I personally could not physically open my eyes for at least 15 minutes. At the 15 minute mark, we had to run through a paintball course. Talk about misery. Pure misery. The effects were so extreme and lasted for hours, gradually wearing off probably 8 hours later to mild irritation with dawn dishsoap in a cool shower.
Yes, I was sold on Fox labs and bought several canisters. Cheap and effective.
For what it's worth, however, for $1000 you could consider a stun gun. Oh My GOD, if you are looking for less-than-lethal, that's where it's at.
In the same school we also were shot at 15' with the 2-pronged stun guns. The most horrific instant pain compliance control I could ever imagine. 5 seconds of receiving 95 jolts of energy that was literally like visiting Hell and back. Takes non-lethal to a whole new level.
I concur that Fox labs is what you want for self defense.
I PERSONALLY received a 1/8th second blast of Fox Labs in the face. It was at an outstanding school and my military unit received a lot of types of training, including OC spray. We lined up and were allowed to hold our breath and close our eyes. The trainer just walked down the line and literally barely sprayed each of us.
Now we are all relatively tough, young, fit bucks. It affects everyone slightly differently, but I don't know of a single man that wasn't severly incapacitated. Everyone was in various degrees of pain to severe pain. I personally could not physically open my eyes for at least 15 minutes. At the 15 minute mark, we had to run through a paintball course. Talk about misery. Pure misery. The effects were so extreme and lasted for hours, gradually wearing off probably 8 hours later to mild irritation with dawn dishsoap in a cool shower.
Yes, I was sold on Fox labs and bought several canisters. Cheap and effective.
For what it's worth, however, for $1000 you could consider a stun gun. Oh My GOD, if you are looking for less-than-lethal, that's where it's at.
In the same school we also were shot at 15' with the 2-pronged stun guns. The most horrific instant pain compliance control I could ever imagine. 5 seconds of receiving 95 jolts of energy that was literally like visiting Hell and back. Takes non-lethal to a whole new level.