Long range shooting system

Data? Your only data is "what I heard."
Data, the worst shooting one is one of the .223's. It shoots 1/2 MOA, it is shot out and needs a new barrel. The .243 shoots 1/4 Moa using small primer brass. The other two shoot consistently under 3/8 Moa.
 
1K yards shooting

I started with a mauser M48 action re barreled to 6.5X284 Win. This is an inexpensive way to go though not as cheap as one might think, after restocking and recoil reduction (Not necessary for all shooters, I have two stints installed so have to be careful of bruising) Richards did a very fancy laminated stock for me with the heavy recoil pad. The mauser trigger went next replaced by Timmeny. Rails had to be mod'ed for the 284 case I use Lapua cases. I like the sierra 140 grain match for the projectile, topped off by a BSA contender 16 power scope. Some will bemoan the choice of an inexpensive scope like this and to those folks I readily admit there are far better scopes, but to this I also say "Don't knock it until you try it.) I print 4 inches at 600 yards and a tad bigger at 1000 yards this is off a stand and also duplicated with a Harris Bi pod installed I like H-4831 powder with a muzzle velocity in the range of 2900 feet per second. The draw back to this superb round is the short barrel life usually starts loosing accuracy after about 1000 rounds so I compromise and use an Adams Bennet barrel. This barrel has about 500 rounds to go.
 
6.5X284

This is what I would class as a target rifle, but if I were hunting, say Elk on a fixed position stand and in open country I would classify it as a hunting rifle. It was not intended to be a "lug through the woods rifle"but it got the job done for me twice, but then I am old guy 75 years old and have trouble getting out of my own way any more, so most of my shooting is target with hunting and target rifles, six of one half dozen of the other, your choice as to what you wish to call the rifle. AS for Savage yes they have the currently most accurate "commercial" rifle on the market today due in most part to there "new trigger".
 
Data? Your only data is "what I heard."
Data, the worst shooting one is one of the .223's. It shoots 1/2 MOA, it is shot out and needs a new barrel. The .243 shoots 1/4 Moa using small primer brass. The other two shoot consistently under 3/8 Moa.
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That's not data
That's hearsay
It's not proof Savage is more accurate than any other brand
 
Actually, hearsay would be me repeating what I have heard. Giving a first hand account is not hearsay.
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You disregarded my first hand account of my observations
I'm disregarding yours ;)
 
A Remington factory field rep used his Winchester 70 based rifle to win the High Power Nationals in 1964.
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Carlos Hathcock surely proved the accuracy and reliability of this weapon beyond a doubt...

If we could ask the VC sniper he shot in the eye straight through his scope, he'd probably agree :eek:
 
Carlos Hathcock's Winchester 70 tested about 2 MOA at 1000 yards when it was turned back in for good. That's with a really good lot of M72 .30-06 match ammo; the stuff he used in it. When I talked with him at the 1971 Interservice Rifle Matches, he said it was on its last legs. He won the 1000-yard match in that event with his Win. 70 in .300 Win or .30-.338 Win; cannot remember now.
 
Most of Carlos Hathcocks missions were with a Rem 700 in .308 with Redfield scope . His first tour was with a Win 70 in 30-06 .
 
I once watched the USN Small Arms Match Conditioning Unit in San Diego test some Rem 700's with heavy 26" barrels saddled with a Redfield 3-9. The rifles were clamped in a machine rest then tested with different lots of M118 match ammo. The lot that shot best had two cans of ammo (920 rounds) of it packaged and shipped to SEALs in 'Nam. Best accuracy was about 7 to 8 inches for 10-shot groups. Not bad considering Lake City arsenal specs were 3.5 inches mean radius; about 12 to 13 inches extreme spread from their bolt action test barrels in a Mann rest. Good lots of comercial match ammo would shoot 4 inches in them.

It wasn't near that good with the 2-inch diameter, 2-foot long sound supressor fitted but good enough for use up to 300 yards.
 
Lake City arsenal specs were 3.5 inches mean radius; about 12 to 13 inches extreme spread from their bolt action test barrels in a Mann rest.
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That 3.5 mean radius is for 600 yards. Which was the standard for Match Ammo.

We shot a ton of M-72 in my sniper schools, we found the '62 to be the most accurate we used.
 
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