Long range shooting ethical?

Ethics is a personal decision.

For me, a shot is ethical if it is within the range that I can assure a reasonable probability of a hit and clean kill. (I have missed, once :rolleyes:)

I don't hold others to what I deem ethical for myself. As long as it is legal, go for it.
 
If you know you can make the shot, then it is ethical. If you shoot long range and you know that your chances are not good getting it, then that is un ethical.
 
Phil,
But we were all amazed at what this auto electrician & his mate were capable of with their very specialised equipment.
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I was asking about the metric vs Imperial(??yards) measurements you gave because I was thinking maybe a mistake in conversion may have been made. TBS, I was also thinking you may have been attempting to give some of us a "ONE BACK" to make up for the Quigly Down Under movie :):).
But anyway this is still hearsay, as you were told about this second hand, and when this happens again "LETS SEE SOME PICTURES"!:D

Good Day,

Gbro
 
Long range shooting ethical???

Some parts of the country long range shooting is mandatory.Some parts your lucky if you can shoot 100yds.
Its ethical for me as long as I stay within my limitations. As a hunter, my limitations and ethical shooting distance's are my responsibilities and are monitored by target practice. I understand and (begrudgingly) accept the fact that my eyes aren`t what they used to be. Therefore, my ethical shooting distance may vary from yours.
These days bino's and a range finder are very good friend's of mine.
 
3 for 3 at 1840 yards? Possible, but I'd have to see it live or on video to believe it. Also, I don't force my ethical standards on anyone.

Good Luck :)
 
Whats wrong with some of you people???
Just cause you cant do it, you think its unethical? You need to get a life and quit complaining about this long range crap.
They did 3 times in a row, he obviously knows what he doing. How can you call that lucky and unethical?
Get off your high horse.
Those goats are nothing more than a nusiance, same as our prairie dogs or the sewer rats in the cities. I dont see anyone complaining about long, unethical shots on prairie dogs.
We dont even consider 300 yds long range. Not till your past at least 500. We can smack our 12"x12" 400 yarder without hardly trying. I wouldnt expect all of you to, but this is what I do. This is our lifestyle.

We need to start a thread on the unethical tree stands and blinds.
I think you people that sit in stands or blinds need to get off your butts and start doing some actual hunting for a change.
You call this (long range) luck shooting and not hunting?
I call sitting in a stand, the same thing.
That is not hunting. Just waiting for something to walk by. You are not hunters.
Completely camo'd with scent blockers.
Baits.
Range finders for your 80 yd shot.
A scoped rifle for crying out loud.

Speaking of scopes. How about the guys with scoped turkey guns. Now theres someone thats got problems. If you have to have a scope on a 30 - 40 yrd shotgun, you better give up hunting.





Now, before you throw a fit, please realize something. This is my opinion, same as that is yours. Everyone hunts their own way and its nobody elses business to tell them they should be doing something or not. If they were gut shooting them, or doing something illegal, thats different.
I hunt my way ,you hunt your way ,and they hunt their way.
I cant make the goat shots like those guys, but I dont think its unethical. I dont expect guys from Florida brush country to hike the mountain ridges and shoot across canyons like me.
I dont have near enough patience to sit in a stand or blind and dont even own one as it would do no good here anyway. Even tho I dispise that style of hunting, I know its the only way to do it in certain places.

Sorry to rant and rave, just trying to make a point.
 
reloader28

Speaking of scopes. How about the guys with scoped turkey guns. Now theres someone thats got problems. If you have to have a scope on a 30 - 40 yrd shotgun, you better give up hunting.
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I understand you are expressing opinion here and take zero offense to that, with the exception to the above quote.

Not to fire you up, but, my daughter, 12 yrs old, will not give up hunting! She has to have a scope on her turkey gun due to the fact that her eye sight is so bad she has to have the scope to be able to shoot. She wears prescription glasses and with iron sights or bead only, she cannot see the front of the barrel clearly along with the target.

It is my opinion, that some of these gizmos were invented to help keep some folks like my daughter in the outdoors who would not be able to otherwise.

I sincerely hope you take no offense to this, as none is intended, just trying to make a valid point.
 
Thought I was done with this thread, buuuut...

Reloader,
With due respect and much understanding, how can you defend a certain kind of hunting and condemn another unless you`ve hunted in area's that may require a different style of hunting(treestand) than long range. Also, I happen to like my range finder/scope when pistol hunting out to 80-100 yds.

Not calling you out on this one cause this threads full of alot of opinions (on whats ethical or not) by some people thats probably never been out of their immediate area hunting.

We are all hunters and instead of condemning certain style's of hunting, especially if we've never hunted area's that may require different tactic's than we're accustomed to. Maybe we all ought to try and engage our brains a bit better before engaging the keyboard. The bad-mouthing should be left for the anti-hunting/gun society.

Most opinion oriented threads usually end up with alot of advice/opinions from people that have no experience in the topic at hand. Great example of that is the opinions on firearms. You'll have opinions of certain guns from people that admittingly have never owned or shot the gun in question:rolleyes:.

We need to remember that TFL is open for all public to read. Anti gunners/hunters alike. Maybe more consideration/thought is in order. :(
 
So just to get this straight a guys comes out with a custom 300 with quality optics took them time to test his hand loads out to that distance before the shot knows what it takes and knows his abilities takes the shot makes then shoots two more goats at Shorter distance around 1100 yards. I don't see a problem, he clearly knows his abilities and his bullets abilities to fly straight and buck the wind. He was prob using Berger 210's or Sierra 220, 240 SMK because of the better BC. And the range could have been exagerated a bit just basing that on I run a similar set up and the bullet losses velocity at a certain distance and its ability to open up and be a quality hunting bullet.
 
Guys, I wasnt really trying to condemn any kind of hunting, even tho it sounds like it. I tried explaining it at the bottom of my other post.
I was mearly trying to point out that people are always condemning long range hunting and the ball could easily roll the other way.
I mentioned that different areas in the country require different styles of hunting. My way might not be yours and your way might not be mine.
I know it wasnt clear on what I was getting at cause I'm not good with words and I was fired up.

The bottom line is, I dont care what gizmos and toys you have. I have some myself. Any kind of hunting can be called unethical by someone.

The only unethical hunting in my sincere, personal opinion is the guys that are shooting big game animals and cutting the heads off and leaving the rest. You better hope I never catch you doing that.

Golfballs,
I have a wife and 3 daughters myself that hunt and I would get them any gizmo I can to make their hunt more enjoyable. I dont want it to be too easy for them cause that dont make it more enjoyable, but there are little things that help them out. Best of luck to you both this turkey season.

If anyone thinks I was condemning some kinda hunting, then you misunderstood me and I hope this helps explain it a little better.
 
well, the cheytac .408 is MUCH better than the .50BMG out past 500 yards. It currently holds the world record for longest something or another shot. Pretty much a marine sniper put 5 rounds in a 16 inch circle at 2,000 plus meters. Just laying on the side of a hill with a bipod. Not bench shot or anything else.

Aside from that IF you got the know-how, proper weapon and sights, and god's natural gifted ability to reliably hit targets out past 1000 yards, join a rifle team and compete. But I can't see how its ethical to gut shoot ANY animal, even once. And to take that chance is unethical. 'specially since you've got that extra couple of grand to drop on a rifle, sights, ballistic calculator etc, you ain't going hungry. But thats just my opinion, and opinions are like butt-holes, everybody has one and nobody wants to hear mine.

Oh yeah, I ain't trying to ruffle your feathers, if you don't like this post then ignore it. Its just an opinion and I'm not in any posistion to be passing any laws.
 
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