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Lock in Smith and Wesson revolvers
- Thread starter charlesc
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Exactly!What you have here though is what appears to be a newer gun owner asking about the S&W lock and why it came to be. Since this is a discussion forum for that type of things, why not discuss it?
Someone asks about the locks, are they only supposed to hear one side, because that side is tired of hearing the other? If only that worked in politics......
I think ill chime in here,
I have actually have had the lock on my Governor malfunction twice.
It happened the first day I had it out, and then the second time.
each time I was shooting .410 buckshot through it, which recoils more so than the .45 acp I was using earlier.
That being said I finally took the key "Locked" the gun and then unlocked it and gave it an "extra firm" turn to make sure.
Since then and more than a few hundred rounds later, .45acp, 45 colt and .410 buckshot I have had no problems.
I think that it was just floating someplace in between when it happened, its not my carry gun, just for fun, if it happens again it will either go back, or get removed, either way I like the gun, im going to keep it.
That being said, I hate the locks for what it is, but it is what it is and its not going to stop me from buying a new smith if I want one.
they are ugly true, but I quess I spend less time staring at them than I do shooting them.
I do think they made a mistake bringing back the classic line with the locks, silly if you ask me, and I really do wish they would bring back the blued guns.
they just look sharp to me.
I have actually have had the lock on my Governor malfunction twice.
It happened the first day I had it out, and then the second time.
each time I was shooting .410 buckshot through it, which recoils more so than the .45 acp I was using earlier.
That being said I finally took the key "Locked" the gun and then unlocked it and gave it an "extra firm" turn to make sure.
Since then and more than a few hundred rounds later, .45acp, 45 colt and .410 buckshot I have had no problems.
I think that it was just floating someplace in between when it happened, its not my carry gun, just for fun, if it happens again it will either go back, or get removed, either way I like the gun, im going to keep it.
That being said, I hate the locks for what it is, but it is what it is and its not going to stop me from buying a new smith if I want one.
they are ugly true, but I quess I spend less time staring at them than I do shooting them.
I do think they made a mistake bringing back the classic line with the locks, silly if you ask me, and I really do wish they would bring back the blued guns.
they just look sharp to me.
An important thing often overlooked, or perhaps just unknown by a large contingent of the lock controversy devotee's, is that virtually every S&W revolver carried by law enforcement worldwide equipped with these locks, have had the mechanisms permanently disabled! I personally inspected two dozen S&W M66's that had returned to the USA from Australia where they had seen duty with the South Australian Police, every lock had been shaved, and therefore rendered incapable of inadvertently locking up the mechanism.
I'd be very interested to see some documentation to support this. I do know that my younger sister's M64, which was formerly owned by the Ohio Department of Corrections, still has its lock in place and functional so I know for a fact that not every S&W revolver used by LE has had its lock disabled.
What you have here though is what appears to be a newer gun owner asking about the S&W lock and why it came to be.
He could have done a search and been overwhelmed with existing opinions. The subject creates needless controversy, tension, and no useful results.
I disagree. Folks can read comments from both sides and decide for themselves....no useful results.
In certain circumstances, I can see where a lock could be a useful feature with small kids around. However, this is another example of an idea that wasn't properly thought out and a classic case of "restrictions to please the minority."
The fact the Smith & Wesson revolvers have this lock is not all that troubling per se, it's just that it was VERY poorly designed and horribly executed.
The fact the Smith & Wesson revolvers have this lock is not all that troubling per se, it's just that it was VERY poorly designed and horribly executed.
I keep hearing this...
I have yet to be able to come up with a single creditable scenario where having a loaded gun with a built in lock, or an exterior lock (trigger, etc.,) is superior, or even preferable to having the same gun properly inside secure storage, or unloaded.
I think it is a false idea that having a gun loaded and locked is better for rapid response than having the same gun locked in something, or empty and ready to load.
I think I would probably be faster loading a revolver with loose rounds than I would be finding a little key (which is kept where? ) and getting it in the little keyhole under extreme stress.
I am confident that I could even load a revolver in complete darkness (particularly with a speedloader) faster than I could unlock a loaded gun with an internal lock.
If you have a home situation with undereducated children, or irresponsible idiot adults who might have unsupervised access to your gun, simply do not leave it loaded. Its not rocket science or brain surgery level thinking. Unloaded guns are only dangerous as impact weapons. A 6 year old or your idiot brother in law can hit someone with your gun, but they cannot shoot anyone with an unloaded gun.
If your gun has to be "instantly accessible" for you peace of mind, wear it. Otherwise forget the lock, and especially forget locking a LOADED gun.
In certain circumstances, I can see where a lock could be a useful feature with small kids around.
I have yet to be able to come up with a single creditable scenario where having a loaded gun with a built in lock, or an exterior lock (trigger, etc.,) is superior, or even preferable to having the same gun properly inside secure storage, or unloaded.
I think it is a false idea that having a gun loaded and locked is better for rapid response than having the same gun locked in something, or empty and ready to load.
I think I would probably be faster loading a revolver with loose rounds than I would be finding a little key (which is kept where? ) and getting it in the little keyhole under extreme stress.
I am confident that I could even load a revolver in complete darkness (particularly with a speedloader) faster than I could unlock a loaded gun with an internal lock.
If you have a home situation with undereducated children, or irresponsible idiot adults who might have unsupervised access to your gun, simply do not leave it loaded. Its not rocket science or brain surgery level thinking. Unloaded guns are only dangerous as impact weapons. A 6 year old or your idiot brother in law can hit someone with your gun, but they cannot shoot anyone with an unloaded gun.
If your gun has to be "instantly accessible" for you peace of mind, wear it. Otherwise forget the lock, and especially forget locking a LOADED gun.
As I said:
However, this is another example of an idea that wasn't properly thought out and a classic case of "restrictions to please the minority."