Lets talk bolt action 308

I was looking at 700's and bought the T/C Icon instead. In my hands it's a more accurate rifle. Of course the 700 has an almost unlimited number of after market products so it has a HUGE advantage over my Icon, but IMO the Icon's far better 'out-of-the-box' than any 700 I've shot. T/C calls it a match grade barrel and it seems to be, to me anyway, at least better than other factory barrels. True match grade? Don't know, haven't shoot enough to be able to tell, but it is a high quality barrel, probably higher than the 700.
 
Thanks for the info on the Savage everyone, I wasn't aware of it.

Its still rather expensive at around a grand though. By the time I put on a good mil/mil scope, one piece base and rings and buy .260 brass, bullets and dies its gonna be around $1800+.
 
stopped by a gun shop on the way home, played with a 700 and a vanguard (and a couple out of my price range), liked the 700 trigger way better, everything else was about the same. So its looking like its down to a Howa VS 700. Need to find someone around here that has a Howa to play with.
 
My experience as a rifleman does not match up to many here, so take this for what it is worth.

I have owned a number of (6 or so) Remington 700s in the past 25 years. Three in .30-06, the remainder in .308 or .223. All were bought used, and all were/are good shooters.

I have read a lot of threads recently regarding newer Remington 700 quality, and I cannot comment on that, because my "newest" was at least ten years old, and my only current 700 is at least 15-20 years old.

My .02 worth is this: there are many good used 700s out there. If I were in the market today, I wuld be looking at good used 700s.
 
Anyway, the rifles Im looking at are:

Howa 1500
Remington 700
Weatherby Vanguard
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I've had all three - the Remington I sold. The Howa and Weatherby V are essentially the same gun. Highly accurate. I prefer the Howa but won't sell the Weatherby.
 
Savage 12 series

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/
Or

Remington 700 5R SS
http://www.snipercountrypx.com/c-836-700ss-r5-mil-spec.aspx

Here are my groups from my 5R 155gr scenar, 168gr SMK, and 175gr BT LR. 168grs where shot when i was first seriously getting into shooting, and was still pretty inconsistent, re-shot i think it would be a better group. Two on the left of the 155gr scenars were fouling, and the two bottom are my fault. 9 in the hole. Sry about the pics being so big i don't have them on my computer to resize them.
11 shots 155gr scenar
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Last 4 168gr SMK (Black Hills)
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Berger 175gr BT LR
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Remington quality in recent years has been spotty, many posts on forums to that effect. You certainly CAN go wrong with them. :)
I've had mixed results, two Model Sevens were terrible & had to be returned, one 700 BDL a year or so back was quite nice, same with a 700 VTR. Two 700s my neighbor had were both pretty bad.

Not pushing it, but my 20-inch Weatherby .308 Vanguard Carbine was relatively inexpensive, well-made, and can hold 1.5 inches at 100 yards off the bench. Stock is not McMillan grade, but it's adequate & lightweight.
Denis
 
I agree that since Cerberus bought out remington they've lost some QC. That being said find me a bad review on the 5R above and i'll be stunned. I've yet to read about a 5R that wouldn't shoot. Most remingtons are fine, they just have more lemons on occasion than they used to. If you get remington and really get into LR you'd be wanting to overhaul the rifle before long anyhow. Well at least thats how i think. I can't wait to switch to a bartlein m40/m24.
 
Cooper???

I have a Remington PPS in .308 topped with a fixed power Super Sniper 10x and have been very happy with it; I can usually hold about a 2" group at 200 yards with out much of a problem using factory loads.

I thought it was pretty much the shizzle, until a friend at work showed me his new semi-custom Cooper in .308. He was getting 5" groupings at a little over 500 yards, very impressive.

I never even heard of Cooper until recently.
 
The Weatherby/Howa rifles seem overly heavy to me. I like Remingtons and have never used one that didn't shoot well, or which I couldn't make into a super-accurate rifle with minimal work. Stock design is about the best factory fit for me and they tend to direct recoil straight back instead of upward...perfect!
 
hey guys, i just joined. i have been looking for a .308 for a few weeks now, the remington drew me in first. after looking at the remington, howa, savage, weatherby and tikka , i have narrowed it down to the remington. a few things i will be doing to it as soon as i get it, ill be bedding the stock and floating the barrel. ill be putting a leupold 4.5-14x50 on it if my tax return goes as planned.
 
Funny how I arrived at the same conclusion as you (Remington) after handling everything else in that price range and some much higher. And am very satisfied with my purchase!
 
just picked mine up today, gonna be a couple weeks before i get to shoot it as, i didnt have the money for the scope.
 
kmaysob, that's a fine choice in rifles. As for the scope, the one you want is a great scope (I've been using one for years), but if you are limited in funds, you might give the Burris Fullfield II in 4.5X14 a try. At $300, it's half the price of the Leupold and that lower cost might get you in the field faster. I bought one this past summer and have been pretty pleased with it. I'd rather have the Leupold, but the Burris and I have laid waste to quite a few hogs, coyotes, and deer. Honestly, the only thing I can gripe about on the Burris is that the windage and elevation adjustment clicks aren't as positive as the ones on the Leupold. Still, once the scope is sighted in, adjustment clicks aren't something you mess with much.
 
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Hey kmaysob
I put the leupold 4.5 x 14 on my Rem Mdl 7 .243 and like it so much I got one for my Win Mdl 70 Light Varmint in .308. Mighty fine scopes.
Have a couple of Burris scopes and they're quality pieces also
 
it will have a leupold on it come tax time. im hoping to throw a nikon on 4-12-40 on it before then and start shooting it. come tax time ill move the nikon to my .22. i had put a brand new 3-9-40 on my 22 a few weeks back and im just not able to see my shots on paper at 100 yards very well. im dying to shoot this thing!
 
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