Legality of Openly carrying around a NON handgun (shotgun/rifle)

People up here still talk about days past when rural folk would travel in from the bush and ask storekeeps to keep their rifles behind the counter while they did their shopping and selling of their animal hides.

Police up here have said that it is lawful to carry a long gun in city limits. They will have to respond to frightened calls to 911 about it, but there is nothing illegal in Anchorage Alaska about walking around with a long gun.

If ammo wasn't so blasted heavy, I'd consider riding my bike to the range and strapping my rifle to my back.
 
JohnKSa said:
However, I think that most people would agree that walking into a business unannounced with an uncased long gun is a different story.
Which goes right along with:
WildtimeschangehuhAlaska
Handguns are, by and large, ignored around here. But a fella with a long gun is kinda suspect (shakes head sadly).

Things that were once commonplace, when no longer done, become uncommon and are therefore suspicious.
 
Wild - I remember when the Macy's in Brooklyn sold surplus rifles in the store. Now Macy's is just a yuppy, richy, rich haven. You would have to go far to buy a legal rifle in Brooklyn.

The decline of hunting led to a decline in general types of stores carrying guns and ammo.
 
I see someone walking down the street with an AR or tacticool 870 Im callin the cops.

What if he has a 7600 or Wingmaster?
If the guy isn't causing any harm and it's not illegal, why hassle him?
As a teenager I walked many times to the local hardware store shotgun in hand to buy shells on my way to go rabbit hunting. I'm glad I never walked by your store.
 
As a teenager I walked many times to the local hardware store shotgun in hand to buy shells on my way to go rabbit hunting. I'm glad I never walked by your store.
I'm guessing that wasn't last year--have you tried it lately? ;)
 
I see a stroller with a long gun Im callin the cops. Period

I agree with Wildman on this one. Children in strollers are too small to be carrying long guns-pistols are more their size.

:cool:
 
Long story short. The responding officer got chewed out by the dealer, who is a retired Idaho State Trooper, for harassing a citizen in an open carry state. My son still smiles about this...

Why did he chew out the cop? He was just responding to a call. The old lady is the one who deserved the yelling.



As for me, If I see anyone walking around with a gun in hand, or a long arm slung and not cased, my had is going to the grip of my Ruger with my thumb on the safety. I'm not gonna draw, make a scene, or call the cops if nothing happens, but my hand is gonna stay on my own gun until I'm sure every thing is swell.
 
I'm guessing that wasn't last year--have you tried it lately?

No, it was in the early 80's I wouldn't try it now because of attitudes like this:
I see a stroller with a long gun Im callin the cops. Period
It's not worth the hassle. Kind of makes giggle inside though knowing that he would call the cops on me if he saw me half a block away walking with a shotgun, but I could be standing next to him with two pistols and a knife and he wouldn't know it. I don't see the reasoning.
 
Kind of makes giggle inside though knowing that he would call the cops on me if he saw me half a block away walking with a shotgun, but I could be standing next to him with two pistols and a knife and he wouldn't know it. I don't see the reasoning.

Sure you do. Now-a-days people don't stroll around with rifles and shotguns. Go do it yourself if you don’t believe me. If you get away with it, you don’t live where most of America lives and thank God for it. It may have been the way of life in Mayberry 30 yrs ago (or where ever your anecdotal story begins), but it ain’t happenin’ now.

When you do hear about individuals walking around with long guns, as of late it’s usually because they’re about to make the news for shooting up Wal-Mart. Yep, the psychos have ruined it for the rest of us. They’ve set the tone.

So don’t be surprised when soccer mom calls the cops when she sees some Doug walking down in the parking lot with a shotgun. Will she do it because she has intimate knowledge of or any evidence that he’s about to kill people? Nope. She’ll call because of the 5 news reports she’ll immediately remember, where some psycho started shooting people.

If you’re not expecting a visit by the cops when you head out for a stroll with your shotgun or rifle, you either live in one of the last wonderful places in America, or you’re just out as an activist hoping to stir the pot.
 
I don't see the reasoning.
Yeah, I think we all pretty much see the reasoning.

People know what's going to happen if they go wandering down the streets with an uncased long gun. That's why you rarely see it happen and why the police are called when it does.
 
Sure you do. Now-a-days people don't stroll around with rifles and shotguns. Go do it yourself if you don’t believe me. If you get away with it, you don’t live where most of America lives and thank God for it. It may have been the way of life in Mayberry 30 yrs ago (or where ever your anecdotal story begins), but it ain’t happenin’ now.

When you do hear about individuals walking around with long guns, as of late it’s usually because they’re about to make the news for shooting up Wal-Mart. Yep, the psychos have ruined it for the rest of us. They’ve set the tone.

So don’t be surprised when soccer mom calls the cops when she sees some Doug walking down in the parking lot with a shotgun. Will she do it because she has intimate knowledge of or any evidence that he’s about to kill people? Nope. She’ll call because of the 5 news reports she’ll immediately remember, where some psycho started shooting people.

If you’re not expecting a visit by the cops when you head out for a stroll with your shotgun or rifle, you either live in one of the last wonderful places in America, or you’re just out as an activist hoping to stir the pot.

Trip,
I didn't say I would walk around in these times with a long gun. As a matter of fact I said I wouldn't do it because of the attitude that permeates America today that guns are bad, so if you have a gun you must be a bad person up to bad things. When I referenced standing next to Wild with two guns and a knife and him not knowing it, that was in reference to concealed carry. Obviously he would know if I were carrying a shotgun........it wouldn't be concealed.
In the present I would certainly expect a visit from the cops, because of the evil gun=evil people syndrome.
How about using some deductive reasoning like:
If the guy is acting threatening with a gun, call the cops.
If the guy is intoxicated, high, or acting in an suspicious manner, call the cops.
If the guy is walking down the road minding his own business not breaking any laws, let him be.
Are we at the stage where we need to detain, question and arrest people for what they might do with a gun? If we are they might as well start collecting them up and saving the world from us evil gun people.
It has nothing to do with growing up in Mayberry 30 years ago, it has to do with using some common sense and not capitulating to the pro-criminal anti 2A leftists. I'm not trying to stir any pot, I've just had my fill of PC stew.
 
G-Cym said:
Why did he chew out the cop? He was just responding to a call. The old lady is the one who deserved the yelling.
Um, because a rural Idaho cop should know or at least be familiar with Idaho gun laws?

And the lady? She was a yuppy transplant from CA!

Actually, the lady told the responding officer that she had seen the kid come out of the gun shop with the rifle slung. The officer called the shop and Dave gave him hell after he wanted to arrest my kid for "brandishing." In Idaho, you can't "brandish" (exhibition) unless you "draw or exhibit any deadly weapon in a rude, angry and threatening manner, or who, in any manner, unlawfully uses the same, in any fight or quarrel..." I.C. 18-3303.

The lady was told afterwards, by the officer, that it was a completely lawful thing to do.

Oh, and she hadn't been in Idaho long enough to see teens walking outside of the city limits in the fall with shotguns. Care to guess what all these teens were doing, or would you rather just call the sheriff? Hmmm?

A little geographical info: Rupert (my town) has a pop. of ~6K. Burley, 8 miles south has a pop. of ~10K. Heyburn, 6 miles south has a pop. of ~2K. Every other hamlet within a 40 mile radius has less than 500 people. For you City Folk, this IS Mayberry, U.S.A.
 
It has nothing to do with growing up in Mayberry 30 years ago, it has to do with using some common sense and not capitulating to the pro-criminal anti 2A leftists. I'm not trying to stir any pot, I've just had my fill of PC stew.

Exactly how I feel. And I think some of us in this forum, to some degree or another, have subtly embraced this evil gun=evil people attitude when we say things like "if I see a guy walking down the street with a rifle, I'm calling the cops and they should do the same to me if reversed" or anyone who thinks about walking around with a long gun openly in any time, place or manner no matter what the circumstances must be a gun nut. Let's not embrace these busybody soccer mom attitudes or seek to appease them.

A local gun dealer was telling me of a time a while back when he and a friend of his from the store (they all wear guns and have CHLs) were walking around the grocery store picking up a few things. One of them with his 1911 gov't in the holster under his coat. The man leaned over and the other man noticed this nosey old woman standing on the other side of the isle a few yards away leaning down too following the end of his coat to try to see what this lump was and saw the muzzel of his 1911. She immediately hurried off.
A few minutes later the manager, who thankfully had enough masculinity not to panic, approached the men and simply said, "I take it you have a handgun license." They showed him and he told them about the busybody hag that came to him with the "OMGsh he's got a gun" tale. If I notice anyone with a handgun on them, I am going to mind my own business until they commece criminal activity.

By the same token, if someone is carrying a long gun and it is legal where you are, why bother them unless the context dictates otherwise (manner of carry, where are they carrying it.)


If carrying a long gun is legal in the state you are in, in my case Texas, that is great. That should be reason enough to do it when we need to. Need to for me is going to and from my car either at my home or in rural areas where my hotel is located. Not Walmart or the Mall. As for the mall, it is legal? Yes. Do I need to? NO. Will I do it? NO. Why? Because I don't need to and I definately will get hasseled by the police and mall security for suspicious behavior.

I wish these transplant Yankee/California leftists wouldn't be taken seriously by the police in our communities. I wish the police would ask such questions as in Antipidas story (good story btw) "is said person using gun in a violent or threatening manner?" before sending a unit to hassel someone. Glad to hear he still lives in common (or good) sense Mayberry U.S.A. (minus Barney Fife and his bullet.;) ) The psychos have NOT set the tone. The media and the yuppies who watch them have used the pyschos to set the tone. They take isolated incidents with guns and say "this is the norm of gun owners."
 
Um, because a rural Idaho cop should know or at least be familiar with Idaho gun laws?

And at the time of the officers arrival, the officer had no way of knowing it was just an open carry situation, since the only intel they had on the situation, was from some old lady's call. The officer had every right and good sense to approach the situation expecting the worst.
 
I wish these transplant Yankee/California leftists wouldn't be taken seriously by the police in our communities.

Doug please don't mix us yankees in with the pro-criminal Californians or worse the NYC pro-criminals. I live in FL but was born as raised in MI:cool: :p :)
 
G-Cym, did you even bother reading the rest of my post, or are you fixating only upon my smart-aleck remark?
 
I'm only focusing on that one part because I don't take issue with and even somewhat agree with the rest of what you said. :)
 
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