LCP II in 22LR

ratshooter -- Kel Tec makes a hammer fired DAO 32acp that's the same size as the LCP.

In fact, the original hammer fired LCP was a copy of the Kel Tec design.
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Yep had one back around 2005 and stupidly sold it. Great little gun. I have a new one on my GB watch list now. I also have a Taurus TCP 738 380 that has the long double action hammer fired set up and its the same size as the LCP.

Here is a good place to visually compare gun sizes to each other.

https://www.handgunhero.com/
 
The Keltec P32 is actually smaller and lighter than the LCP.
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They are for all intents the same size except the Ruger is .21 taller than the Keltec. And thats just because of the tab on the magazine of the Ruger. Remove the finger tab and there is no real difference in size. And yes the Ruger weighs 4oz more. And if thats more steel and less plastic I will take it. And I bet I can carry a 10oz gun as well as a 6oz gun and never know the difference.

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/kel-tec-p-32-vs-ruger-lcp-ii
 
Story about weight in a pocket pistol-
Years ago I broke the hammer spring on my Keltec P32 do to an incorrect video. It was almost Christmas and K/T was closed until after the first of the year. No problem- I'll just grab my NAA Guardian .32. Went to work, and at lunch I stopped by a friend's gun shop and bought another P32! There was no way I was going to carry that Little NAA brick!
The LCP is thicker and heavier than the Keltec P3AT, and the P3AT is actually bigger and heavier than the P32. It may not make any difference to you, but it does to me.
 
The LCP is thicker and heavier than the Keltec P3AT, and the P3AT is actually bigger and heavier than the P32. It may not make any difference to you, but it does to me.
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Did you even look at the chart I posted a link to? The dimisions are almost exactly the same except for the height and thats because of the finger extension on the magazine.


Kel-Tec P-32--- Ruger LCP II
Length 5.1"--- 5.17"
Height 3.5"--- 3.71"
Width 0.75"--- 0.75"
Weight 6.6 oz--- 10.6 oz
Barrel Length 2.7"--- 2.75"

The specs on the NAA Guardian show it to weigh 20.4 oz. Not really an apples to apples comparison is it?
 
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Personally, I think it's interesting that several mags. have come out with new 22s 0 Ruger, Glock, etc.

I don't mind the safety I know some do. I haven't shot a 22 since the big shortage as I reload a number of calibers including the 380 which is cheap to reload IMHO.

I havel owned a wide variety of Rugers in my 50+ years of shooting and they have always been good. I personally think this will be a good seller for them - a fun plinker a good pocket gun to carry at times and a good carry for a woman who can't do there recoil of something in a larger caliber - loads with HP, I'd certainly would feel better about my wife having one of these around rather than nothing. If their selling price is decent - I will certainly pick one up.
 
Bill DeShivs said:
Story about weight in a pocket pistol-
Years ago I broke the hammer spring on my Keltec P32 do to an incorrect video. It was almost Christmas and K/T was closed until after the first of the year. No problem- I'll just grab my NAA Guardian .32. Went to work, and at lunch I stopped by a friend's gun shop and bought another P32! There was no way I was going to carry that Little NAA brick!
The LCP is thicker and heavier than the Keltec P3AT, and the P3AT is actually bigger and heavier than the P32. It may not make any difference to you, but it does to me.
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If NAA had somebody smart in charge, they should make one of those Guardians in .22 LR. Lot less recoil, DAO for the second strike capability, and with an aluminum frame cuz it would be light, but very well made. Kind of like the Taurus or Beretta tip up .22's, but these would be fixed barrels and more accurate and likely more reliable.
 
The more I think about this, the more interested I am. One of my long-term holy grail pistols is a genuine pocket 22 that has useful accuracy, reasonable sights/trigger, and has broad spectrum reliability. I have some excellent working 22's that are slightly too large for pocket carry. The actual pocket 22's I've had, though, were all terrible in at least one important way -- maybe Ruger has finally cracked the code.
 
Keltec P32 with 8 loaded with Underwood plus p.

The LCP originia, the LCP Gen 2 (currently still in production) and LCP ll.

To see the actional differences go here and Plug in both models to compare the LCP and the LCP ll compared to the Keltec. There are differences in lenghth, width (0.75" 0.82" , height. I could post the pics myself, but this is the only forum with these kind of rules that you cannot. Sorry.

I would be interest in the LCP 22 if it had a trigger like the Gen 2. Not interested in a LCPll trigger. Also would not pay over $150.00 for one.

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/kel-tec-p-32-vs-ruger-lcp

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Saw a price today for the LCP22 at $299.00. Lol, man that is insane for that gun.
 
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If NAA had somebody smart in charge, they should make one of those Guardians in .22 LR.
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And while they're being smart they could make a 7-shot DAO .22LR revolver with a pull-pin cylinder (to keep costs down) along the lines of the old S&W Lady Smith 22, IJ 1900, H&R 1906, and Rossi Princess. The diameter of the cylinder would be under 15/16" (less than a quarter). It'd be great with a short front sight.

No failure to feed; no testing ammo to see if it will work; no a lot of stuff.

One snag is it would likely take a bunch of sales away from their 5-shot SA revolvers. They'd sell like crazy.
 
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The NAA Guardian's weight is mostly in the slide, and the design of the frame and mechanicals does not lend itself to production in aluminum.

I have both Keltec P32s and P3ATs. The size/weight difference is slight, but it makes a difference to me.
 
The little pistol is designed for practice or people who have trouble with the slide.
If you don’t want to use the safety, don’t. It’s not mandatory that you use it.
I always laugh when something with a safety comes out, the first thing said is I would buy if it didn’t have a safety.
The 1911 that everybody is so fond of was designed to be carried with a round in the chamber, safety on. I have yet to hear anyone say they would not buy one if it didn’t have a safety.
Remember what’s the target buyers, most of whom are getting one for mom, wife or just to have handy.
 
CarlThe..., what's that leather thingee on your trigger guard? And how does the lanyard work? Pocket carry? Best Regards, Rod
 
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CarlThe..., what's that leather thingee on your trigger guard? And how does the lanyard work? Pocket carry? Best Regards, Rod
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Not Carl but I use one on my G42 when I pocket carry or with 'ClipDraw'...tie lanyard to belt, pull gun out/up, trigger guard pops off...a way to safely carry one with in the chamber, condition 0...
 
Those holsters are made of Kydex, not leather.
They can also be used to carry a gun under a shirt, with the lanyard around the neck.
 
I don't understand why it would be a locked-breach design, but the photo sure looks like it is.

It would be cheaper to make in blow-back design, although that might mean a stronger recoil spring, hence making it harder to rack the slide. I wonder if that is the reason.

Bart Noir
 
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