LASER ban

Crosshair,

I'm a pilot - are you? If not, why don't you take my word on what we can and can't do.

Pilot's operate 98% on visual cues, whether that's out of the front windscreen, side window, artificial horizon. There is no "seat of the pants" feel that will tell you if the plane is gently rolling upside down as you blindly pull up. If you are less than 50 feet over the ground when you lose your sight there is no manuever that would insure that the aircraft would not crash. You may be able to keep flying, or may not. At night the chances are far worse.


As for the laser, it was cheap by 1984 laser standards, and had an output and dispersal that was probably on par with a laser pen today. It was not at all powerful and intended for "science" demos to pre-teens. Yet that 1mm beam still caused temporary blindness when it had spread to 2 feet and traveled through 150 yards of air. That is compelling.


From what I can tell reading this thread, I have more experience with laser blinding AND aviation than anyone else with an opinion. But by all means, ignore what I have to say on the subject.
 
how far do they intend to go with banning objects instead of dealing with people?
Look no Farther than the UK & Parts of it & if you are bored Austrailia, One part of the uk even went so far as to arrest & sentance a guy to 6 months for "Being in Posession of a Offencive Weapon" (A Belt) which I usnderstand he was wearing at the time.
even having a baseball bat can get you a prison sentance in the uk.

goof around with a squirt gun outside? 6 months in prison if the cops see you. :barf:

Dare to fight off a Burglar?
(Look no Farther than Tony Martin & many many others. :barf: )

Point an Airsoft/Replica/Airgun at a Burglar/Rapist/Other lowlife skum to scare em off?
(5-10 years in prison for "Insighting fear with a Object Resembleing a Firearm" or something simmalar :barf: )

Austrailia actualy outlawed "Pointy Sticks" of all things. :barf:

There is more, but to prevent this becoming a rant, I suguest you google a bit or take a swing by www.keepandbeararms.com .
 
Handy,
I'm a high school physics teacher and I STILL have a couple of those old, clunky LASERs.
I'm not attacking you but you hit a stationary kid only 200 yards away with a LASER down a clear hallway. I've been 'painted' with one and, yeah, it sucked for the half-second it was on me. BUT try this experiment: Buy a cheap LASER pointer. Have a buddy stand someplace a mile or two away and try to hit you as you're driving your car down the road at 90mph (or whatever the landing speed is for a commercial aircraft). If you can manage that then I will be happy to lobby for the banning of all cheap, pen-sized LASERs. I will smash both of mine myself.
Yep, the military uses goggles to help protect against hugely more powerful units mounted on dampened gimbaled setups guided by RADARs and computer controlled. Some of those can blister the coatings off of an IR sensor from thousands of feet away. They even mounted a chemical LASER on a converted airliner capable of killing air-to-air missles as part of a research project into an airborne "theater missle defense system". My little pointer which runs on a AAA battery isn't in the same ballpark.
If anyone can videotape a sucessful experiment like the one I mentioned above then I will post a video of me destroying my little pointers. Otherwise, I hold to my opinion that the jackdonkeys who were shrieking for bans on my little LASERs are firmly packed with fertilizer.
 
Apple,

When did I say I wanted to ban lasers?

I was just speaking to those who say that this whole thing is an impossible fabrication.


Could I hold a commercially bought laser on a huge target a mile away? I don't know - but I can hold an inch at 100 yards, so maybe. :D

But you don't have to "hold" at all, the beam just has to cross the view screen briefly.
 
Handy,
I wasn't trying to attack you, personally. I used your name in the post to point out a)the sad state of my lab equipment 'cause I still have the same gear you were using 20 years ago :eek: b)in my original post I was talking about my incredulity at the idea of banning all LASER sales to civvies including dinky little pointers. The topic seems to have drifted a bit into the "could you EVER with ANYTHING" rather than "does this make sense" region.
Cheers,
Apple
 
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