I see the same thing that doomed the wartime frontline handguns and machineguns of the third reich. Over-engineering to make the mechanicals so precision fit that one little grain of abrasive sand or one burr from machined metal can cause the failure of the whole machine. Besides, if you can afford one, you aren't going to actually shoot it, you'll just keep it in the safe to fondle of wear it to bar-b-que's. I'll keep buying 1911's, Could buy about 25 at those prices...........................
Bill
I beg to differ sir. While I'm not "badmouthing" them, I don't have to handle or shoot a Korth to know I wouldn't own one. Like I said before, I don't have a problem spending that much on one gun, it just won't be that one.If you haven't shot or handled a Korth - or cannot afford one, keep your fingers off the keyboard...
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If you haven't shot or handled a Korth - or cannot afford one, keep your fingers off the keyboard...
I beg to differ sir. While I'm not "badmouthing" them, I don't have to handle or shoot a Korth to know I wouldn't own one. Like I said before, I don't have a problem spending that much on one gun, it just won't be that one.
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keep your fingers off the keyboard instead of badmouthing something you know nothing about and only proving your ignorance in the process.
I see the same thing that doomed the wartime frontline handguns and machineguns of the third reich. Over-engineering to make the mechanicals so precision fit that one little grain of abrasive sand or one burr from machined metal can cause the failure of the whole machine. Besides, if you can afford one, you aren't going to actually shoot it, you'll just keep it in the safe to fondle of wear it to bar-b-que's. I'll keep buying 1911's, Could buy about 25 at those prices...........................
Bill
I didn't say anything was and we're not talking about ALL high end guns, I thought I made that perfectly clear. I said I didn't like Korth enough to pay their high price. I'm about to spend $3000 on a custom Ruger .500 and that is where I'd rather my money go. The Korth appears to be as well made as a revolver can be but quality and precision are not the only deciding factors. At least not for me. I have to not just like but LOVE a gun I pay that much for and in that regard, the romantic aspect, Korth leaves me cold. It's not a Taurus versus Korth or Glock versus Les Baer kinda thing. More of an angular Lamborghini versus swoopy Aston-Martin kinda thing.If you do not like Korths, SIG P210s, custom 1911s, or Colt Pythons it is fine with me but there is little wrong with them.
I agree and hope that wasn't directed at me.This sort of sour grapes mentality pops up all the time when the topic of nice or expensive guns comes up. Whether it's P210s, Korths, pricey collector guns, what have you, there are always posters who try to feel superior and scoff "at least I shoot my guns, unlike those nancy boy collectors," "no room in my safe for safe queens, heh" or "my Taurus/Glock/$500 1911 shoots just as well as that there fancy pants European Korth/P210/etc." The psychology behind it is intriguing but I won't delve into it at risk of offending the haters. I will say that the phenomenon isn't unique to gun owners - I've seen it in almost every subculture I've been a part of or that I've observed.
I didn't say anything was and we're not talking about ALL high end guns, I thought I made that perfectly clear. I said I didn't like Korth enough to pay their high price. I'm about to spend $3000 on a custom Ruger .500 and that is where I'd rather my money go. The Korth appears to be as well made as a revolver can be but quality and precision are not the only deciding factors. At least not for me. I have to not just like but LOVE a gun I pay that much for and in that regard, the romantic aspect, Korth leaves me cold. It's not a Taurus versus Korth or Glock versus Les Baer kinda thing. More of an angular Lamborghini versus swoopy Aston-Martin kinda thing.
Nah, not necessarily directed at you. Just a general observation on something I've noticed on almost every gun forum whenever the topic is an expensive "high falutin'" type of gun, and the conversation here seemed to be veering that way. I'm kind of commiserating with bac and PzGren, because I think we have similar tastes and have run into that attitude before.
I agree, I see it all the time and it baffles me. It comes off as a reversed form of snobbery.Nah, not necessarily directed at you. Just a general observation on something I've noticed on almost every gun forum whenever the topic is an expensive "high falutin'" type of gun, and the conversation here seemed to be veering that way. I'm kind of commiserating with bac and PzGren, because I think we have similar tastes and have run into that attitude before.
A five-shot .500JRH built on a 50th anniversary .44Mag flat-top. Converted to a Bisley, 4¾" octagon barrel, Colt ejector, custom linebored cylinder, decked grip frame fitted with elephant ivory (or sheephorn) and a Bowen lanyard ring, possibly round-butted, color case hardened hammer and trigger, carbona blue the rest. Haven't decided if I will have it engraved or not.That Ruger sounds interesting.
Look here buddy, firearms have been my primary passion for nearly 30yrs. I've bought and sold a lot of them in that time and have developed some strong preferences. Most of which tend towards old world craftsmanship. My current collection is approaching $60,000, most of which is invested in around four dozen revolvers. So please dispense with the "concerns of a novice" nonsense. It's misplaced and might get your feelings hurt. If you want to spend your money on guns that are ugly, yet "functional", I won't argue but don't insult me because I don't roll that way.I'm a little surprised that people, when talking this kind of price and quality, would bash the looks, when for that money, the gun MUST have superior function and ergonomics, which supersedes "looks" by leaps and bounds. I personally expect "looks" to be more of a concern of a novice. I think the Python had a lot of sales due to its "looks" rather than its "superior" function. The Korth should feel great, balance well, shoot extremely well, be completely reliable, while being durable mechanically. All of that trumps looks. Sorry guys that place emphasis on "my XYZ looks cool" but that is the truth. Its kind of like a muscle car, a real enthusiast would be more proud of a 1969 COPO 427 Camaro (plain on outside, when original) vs a RS 1969 Camaro (stripes, hidden headlights and what not, flashy). Performance is the big concern.
Look here buddy, firearms have been my primary passion for nearly 30yrs. I've bought and sold a lot of them in that time and have developed some strong preferences. Most of which tend towards old world craftsmanship. My current collection is approaching $60,000, most of which is invested in around four dozen revolvers. So please dispense with the "concerns of a novice" nonsense. It's misplaced and might get your feelings hurt. If you want to spend your money on guns that are ugly, yet "functional", I won't argue but don't insult me because I don't roll that way.
Yes, looks are important and anyone who says different is lying. I'm not a teenager saying that I want an Glock because "it looks cool". I'm a 40yr old adult with refined taste saying that I'd rather have something that looks like the sixgun below than a Korth.
So please, don't waste my time with this "looks don't matter" crap.
This kind of goes hand in hand with some of the "reverse snob" attitude I was talking about earlier, to the point where it's another forums cliche. Someone always pipes up to add "heh, I don't care how my guns look, they're just tools for getting work done, I'm no sissy." There's a lot to enjoy and appreciate in the world of firearms, from collecting to engineering to shooting, and the hurf-durf "guns are only tools" types who don't understand that get under my skin. (There are plenty of "guns are tools" folks who do appreciate that other people are into other things, and that's good, not who I'm talking about.)
I really don't care how well it functions, there's no way I'd spend that much on something I didn't find attractive.