spacecoast
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I track all my shooting in a spreadsheet. I think it's a good idea to know about how many rounds a gun has fired. I would think this would be especially relevant for guns prone to parts wearing out, such as rifle barrels.
Keeping a round count
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Yes, that's why you test the gun thoroughly with the new part.
Since you've seen the need to say it three times. I'll answer three times.
Yes, it does happen, that's why you need to test the gun thoroughly after modifying it or replacing a part.
As an auto mechanic, I assume that you understand the concept of normal wear parts, and also the idea of how one worn part can contribute to additional wear or even breakage of other parts.
For example, my car (which has an interference engine) requires the replacement of the timing belt at a specified mileage. If the belt breaks from wear, the engine will be damaged. Based on what you have said on this thread, your automotive experience would apparently lead you to advise me not to keep track of my mileage and not to worry about replacing the timing belt because the new one might be defective.
There might be some mechanics out there who believe that's a wise course of action, but I've never run across one before. Every one I've ever talked to has understood the value of preventive maintenance.
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I keep a small notebook in my range bag. At the end of each session I write down guns used and how many boxes (or rounds) of ammo for each. I have never compiled the information to see how many rounds for each gun, but could do so easily if and when the need arises.
I keep a small notebook in my range bag. At the end of each session I write down guns used and how many boxes (or rounds) of ammo for each. I have never compiled the information to see how many rounds for each gun, but could do so easily if and when the need arises.
John, I believe you have twisted my words a bit or misunderstood the point I am trying to make. As a mechanic, yes you do follow maintenance schedules. I would never tell anyone NOT to.
I have gone through 3 owners manuals I have here, Springfield 1911, XD and a S&W revolver.
None of the manuals have any info in them on the intervals that parts are recommended for replacement. I am willing to bet that if I go through the remaining owners manuals I have I will not find any info regarding intervals for the suggestion of replacing parts.
Folks will do what they feel comfortable with with regards to maintenance to whatever mechanical devises they own, vehicles , firearms to home appliances.
I'll pose this question to you. My Springfield Mil-Spec 1911. At what round count should I be changing springs and or parts that may fail? Same question for a revolver say a S&W model 10?
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Don P said:
Not, John, but the answer is found on probably every 1911-oriented board in the universe. Here's one example: http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=13240
How do you know when you're reached 2000 or 5000 rounds if you don't keep some sort of log?
Perhaps that's true, but even if it is, that isn't evidence that there are no normal wear parts in firearms.
Glock, for example, recommends the replacement of recoil spring assemblies every 5000 rounds in the Gen4 Glock 22 pistols and every 2500 rounds in all other generations of Glock 22 pistols. That information is from the Gen 4 armorer's manual addendum. It is not found in the owner's manual, but that hardly makes it less true.
For what it's worth, the Caracal F owner's manual recommends replacing the recoil spring assembly every 10,000 rounds.
Unless we are to believe that all other pistol makers have somehow managed to create springs that last forever and only Glock and Caracal haven't broken the code, that might suggest that recoil springs are a normal wear part.
I have a general idea of how many rounds I've put through my firearms because I tend to shoot around the same # each time I head to the range but I don't keep an exact count. Personally I clean my guns & inspect them (kind of fun) after each trip to the range so I don't really see a benefit of keeping a log of how many rounds have been through each gun.
bonefamily
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I admit to keeping a log count. Right now just in a written notebook, but starting to create an Excel file. Also going to link from that to an inventory of ammunition on hand rather than counting boxes in the safe. Just something for me to do and I like it.
After reading all the helpful replies I've decided to keep count. I downloaded Gun Log SPC on my iPhone and will use that. I guess it is a good idea since the manual for my p238 does recommend changing the springs after so many rounds. It will be nice to keep track of practice sessions and ammo too.
Bummed that I missed this discussion when it was current. (just noticed the big warning about bumping a necro-thread 
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I keep a very strict round count on all of my firearms, and yes-- even the ones that aren't new when I get them. (which is dang near most all of them because I prefer used guns!)
I could sit here & try to convince someone how "important" it is to do so, but I don't believe that. Frankly, I just enjoy doing it. It's all for me, really. I can keep track of how much exercise each one has gotten, and it's fun for me to watch the round counts climb on some of them. It's also a good reminder in the log when one hasn't gotten much action.
On a range day, I have one slip of paper that tallies up each participant and it all gets entered on the excel spreadsheet soon after.
I really enjoy keeping such counts. Some folks say their carry gun "has had thousands of rounds through it" and it sounds made up on the fly, often because it is exactly that. It's a clouded memory, some hopefulness, some forgetfulness and a smidge of BS tossed in for good measure.
My log tells me that my EDC has 4,428 shots through it, and it also says I haven't shot it since June 2nd. That means it's due for some exercise!
And there's nothing corrupting THAT number... that number is fact.
)I keep a very strict round count on all of my firearms, and yes-- even the ones that aren't new when I get them. (which is dang near most all of them because I prefer used guns!)
I could sit here & try to convince someone how "important" it is to do so, but I don't believe that. Frankly, I just enjoy doing it. It's all for me, really. I can keep track of how much exercise each one has gotten, and it's fun for me to watch the round counts climb on some of them. It's also a good reminder in the log when one hasn't gotten much action.
On a range day, I have one slip of paper that tallies up each participant and it all gets entered on the excel spreadsheet soon after.
I really enjoy keeping such counts. Some folks say their carry gun "has had thousands of rounds through it" and it sounds made up on the fly, often because it is exactly that. It's a clouded memory, some hopefulness, some forgetfulness and a smidge of BS tossed in for good measure.
My log tells me that my EDC has 4,428 shots through it, and it also says I haven't shot it since June 2nd. That means it's due for some exercise!
And there's nothing corrupting THAT number... that number is fact.I've been using Gun Log SPC on my iphone for a while. In addition to counting rounds, there's space to record info on your guns -- purchase price, any upgrades or changes to the gun -- in the notes section I put the date, then how many rounds I fired ... If I'm buying or selling something used, I like knowing how much it's been shot, and having that information to provide a buyer ... and I think it's free ...
Gaucho Gringo
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My model 1906 .22 rifle is on it's second barrel and it is shot out to a smooth bore now. How many rounds have been down the tube? I don't know but I am the third generation of the same family to own it. My dad told me once that an arcade owner gave him 10,000 arcade shorts when they shut down the place and that he shot them all during the Depression. Said it wasn't until after coming home after WWII in the Marines that he knew how to clean the lead-carbon ring from shooting the shorts. I have had the rifle for over 50 years now and I have put well over 10,000 rounds through it. All I know the old thing still hits what I am trying to hit. Does anybody really know the round count of a well used rifle unless you bought it new and kept a record of every round fired? Most guns let you know when they have a problem.
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