July 4 armed march in DC...???

I would have no problem with an organized march where participants are holding placards with pictures of guns, the 2nd Amendment, Flags, pro-freedom messages, etc. Sort of a Tea-Party rally addressing gun rights instead of taxes.
 
From the link just above...
U.S. Park Police and the D.C. police are investigating the authenticity of a video that surfaced Thursday morning that appears to show activist Adam Kokesh loading a shotgun in Freedom Plaza and describing himself as part of the “final American Revolution.”
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Final American Revolution? Does that sound just a little nutty or what? I am not sure folks like Kokesh are ultimately helpful to our cause.
 
What's the chance he's actually pretty clever andshot this video on a green screen and is looking for a false arrest suit?
 
What's the chance he's actually pretty clever andshot this video on a green screen and is looking for a false arrest suit?
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IMO, he would be out of luck. By posting the video with the D.C. background and the graphic stating it is at Freedom Plaza, he has admitted illegal conduct. He may disavow this admission later, and perhaps even prove it's a fake video. However, police seem to have probable cause to arrest and charge him so that a false arrest suit would fail.
 
I can understand why someone would organize a march like this, but it's just too extreme. These guys are going to end up getting too much attention for all the wrong reasons. I sure as heck would never participate in that!
 
When I first saw the video, I laughed so hard I think I bruised my sinuses. Then I realized it wasn't meant to be funny.

The part at the end when he cycles the action on the shotgun for dramatic effect is brilliant. "We are the FINAL [chunk!]. AMERICAN [chunk!] REVOLUTION!" I thought for sure he was going to yell "this is Sparta."

The title is somewhat misleading as well. "Open Carry March on DC a success?" I don't see any marching. I just see one guy.

Frankly, the DC police can investigate it or not. If I were in their shoes, I simply wouldn't give him the attention. Ironically, that's what I'd suggest gun owners do as well. There's a line between civil disobedience and being a dink to get attention, and it's really not all that fuzzy.
 
Tom Servo said:
...There's a line between civil disobedience and being a dink to get attention, and it's really not all that fuzzy.
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And IMHO, Kokesh is so far on the wrong side of that line he can not be justifiably given any credence at all.

Folks, we in the RKBA movement really need to (1) start recognizing the importance of winning over public opinion; and (2) start to learn and understand how to actually do that. We have become masters at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victor.

I wrote this in a post in another thread:
...I continue to be dismayed by the failure of so many in the RKBA community to recognize the importance of positively influencing public opinion or to have any real clue about how to determine how to go about doing that.

During the course of my career I've had a pretty fair amount of experience working with business clients who needed to be able to influence public perception, understand how to make advertising effective and find the best ways to effectively communicate their messages. When a lot was at stake, they didn't just guess or say "if it worked for Rosa Parks."

When they sat around their conference tables (I was there), they didn't assume that their audiences would think the ways they did or have the same values and perceptions. They consulted with psychologists and others who have studied human motivation and perception and beliefs. They thoroughly analyzed the demographics of the audiences and tried to understand what they cared about, what they were scared of, what made them happy or feel secure, what they believed and didn't believe.

They also tested their conclusions with surveys and focus groups. They paid attention to what was happening and made adjustments in their messages and techniques if things weren't working the way they wanted them to.

And I strongly suspect that our opposition is doing at least some of those things....
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And to think he WAS a Marine, emphasis on the was, he is an embarrassment to our Corps and the second amendment cause and no longer deserves the title if you ask me. What a freakin froot loop.
 
Talk has done nothing but let the left erode our rights.

At what point do you do more than talk?

Are you going to wait for them to take the rest of our rights before you do more talk?

How far is too far?

They don't just talk why should we?

When talk has failed and you think marching is crazy what should we do then?

You'll probably do what most Americans are doing...Nothing.

Wake Up America!!!


Boomer
 
You'll probably do what most Americans are doing...Nothing.
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Boomer, you might be surprised to find just how active many of us on this forum are.

To suggest that we're doing nothing because we don't support a certain particular action is a bit disingenuous.
 
The guy is just a mad dog, hopefully not too many people are stupid enough to follow him.
Seems like they got him in the court system so he will probably end up fighting charges, getting tired/wore down, taking a plea which requires good behavior and the mad dog gets his balls sniped.

I am all for protest and activism but you need some kind of tactics and logical methods or you are just a ranting idiot.
 
Hmm?

In the Post article linked above, he is quoted as saying that he was expecting a raid by police after he posted the video.

So, why on earth, if he was expecting the raid, did he have illegal drugs in his home?

I can only think of three reasons: 1) the guy is a complete idiot or 2) the drugs in question were prescriptions for someone else and he is a complete idiot or 3) that they were his scripts and the police are just using them as an excuse for an arrest which will be thrown out later.

Hmm?
 
The article says he was in possession of hallucinogenic mushrooms when arrested. I was unaware that anybody prescribed magic mushrooms for anything.
 
Ah, yes!

Reading too fast and I missed that little bit!

So, it is choice #1. The guy is an idiot!

I mean, really, why have illegal drugs in your home when you are expecting a raid! Simple, simple, simple!
 
Yeah, if you're going to be an activist, you should expect contact with the police and plan accordingly. . . . It really is that simple.
 
Well, this guy's wanted to be a martyr the whole time, and now he'll be doing it from prison. At least a felony conviction will bar him from owning firearms in the future.

I guess we won't be seeing him next Independence Day.

FWIW, despite the headline, the article does a fairly good article of painting Kokesh as a lone crackpot rather than a spokesperson for our cause.
 
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