Janet Reno "Kicks" in the door (metaphorically speaking)

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Well, whatever you may think of this situation, ol' Janet Reno feels quite comfortable enforcing the Federal Govt's will on the public with force of arms.


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Saturday April 22 5:52 AM ET
Elian Seized From Relatives' Home

MIAMI (AP) - Armed federal agents seized Elian Gonzalez from the home of his Miami relatives before dawn today, firing tear gas into an angry crowd as they left the scene with the weeping 6-year-old boy.

More than 20 agents arrived at the home shortly after 5 a.m. and used rams on the chain-link fence and on the front door. A short time later, a woman and man brought Elian out of the home and put him in a white van that drove away.

``Assassins,'' yelled some of the approximately 100 protesters, some of whom climbed over the barricades in an attempt to stop the agents. The agents, wearing Immigration and Naturalization Service shirts, were armed with automatic weapons.

``The world is watching!'' yelled Delfin Gonzalez, the brother of the little boy's caretaker and great-uncle, Lazaro Gonzalez.

``They were animals,'' said Jess Garcia, a bystander. ``They gassed women and children to take a defenseless child out of here. We were assaulted with no provocation''

Within an hour of the raid, the crowd in Little Havana quickly swelled to about 300.

The raid came amid reports of progress early today to immediately transfer custody of the boy from his Miami relatives to his Cuban father. Attorney General Janet Reno was at her office early this morning engaged in an extraordinary, long-distance negotiation that began Friday afternoon.

The settlement was first proposed by civic leaders in Miami serving as intermediaries. Proposals and counterproposals flew through the night by telephone and facsimile machine between the Miami house, the Justice Department and the Washington office of the father's lawyer.

All of that ended early today.
 
Despite the court ruling, I imagine that Bill and Janet will get the kid out of the country as soon as possible.
I mean, when you can send in Federal forces for any reason you want, who needs to listen to court rulings, etc??
 
When I saw this on the Druge report this morning, I felt sick to my stomach. Waco 2 on a small scale. How can we stop these bastards?
 
When I turned on the news this morning at 6:30 I couldn't believe my eyes. Surely what I was seeing was taking place in a 3rd world nation, not the US of A! Militarized INS agents raiding a private home, armed with sub guns, to kidnap a child from unarmed citizens. I was sickened and furious at the same time! Of course, if the citizens had been armed and resisted, they would have been charged with murder, just like the American citizens at Waco.

My first thought was, "if this doesn't wake up the American people, nothing will". After watching the way the news media sided with the INS, I believe that most Americans will be swayed to the government's side. We will be seeing more and more of these militarized raids. Soon they'll be so common place, that they won't even make the news. How long before the "beat cop" starts wearing a flak helmet, and carrying a MP5 as his standard side arm?

Excuse me while I puke!
 
I know posting images is frowned upon, but this is too important! Is this real!?!? From Excite, which is where the picture on Drudge is linked from. Sorry, LEO's, but if this is real, this is a JBT in action. God help the Republic if this is what we've come to.

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I think it is real. More pics: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><A HREF="http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/cuban/boy/20000422/flbw122?r=/photo/topic/news" TARGET=_blank>
A female agent is surround by INS and Border Patrol as she carries 6-year-old Elian from his Miami home early Saturday, April 22, 2000. Photo by Pete Cosgrove (AP)</A>[/quote]

[sarcasm]Yes, I feel safer when government agents are wearing ski masks like common armed robbers.[/sarcasm] See photo below.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><A HREF="http://news.excite.com/photo/img/ap/cuban/boy/20000422/bak110?r=/photo/topic/news" TARGET=_blank>
Goverment agents struggle to get Elian Gonzalez into a van and leave the scene after removing him from his home, Saturday, April 22, 2000, in Miami's Little Havana neighborhood. Photo by Wilfredo Lee (AP)</A>[/quote]



[This message has been edited by JimR (edited April 22, 2000).]
 
They're claiming that they knocked prior to smashing down the door with a battering ram and thrusting MP5 muzzles into citizens faces. The Butcher of Waco is very proud that her JBTs followed rule three.

All the media hairspray heads are springing into action, in support of Klinton/Reno. They are now saying that they had reports of weapons in the house.

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Pretty damn disgusting.

The only good thing that may come of it, is that Gore will lose Florida (a BIG electoral state), and the dominoes will fall all around, and he'll lose the election.
 
I ran this pic and some of the other sequential ones through a photo editor....no way can you convince me that the gun is not pointed at them....as opposed to the spin saying its pointed to the side.
Has anyone here ever fired an MP5? Specifically, what are the recoil characteristics in term of barrel jumping? What type of lateral motion? Right or left?

I can only hope the majority of Americans will now realize that the Clinton/Gore/Reno regime is the most freely violent one this country has ever seen.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
It's sad. For the first time in American history,the US government is using force to return a political refugee to communism. Do you all remember Rep. Bob Dornan telling us from the floor of the House that the President was a commie? I think that this is all the proof we need!!!
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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!
 
a gee guys, the guy only had a rifle according to the DC news...

i have this on 4 channels here

Fox has a helicopter following the motorcade arround Andrews AFB

Dan Rather says we are having a battle for images...

dZ
 
Federal agents seize Elian in predawn raid

Boy to be reunited with his father in
Maryland

April 22, 2000
Web posted at: 9:02 a.m. EDT (1302 GMT)


In this story:

Female agent carried Elian from the house

Crowd grows quickly

Elian found by fishermen

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MIAMI (CNN) -- U.S. agents in riot gear and carrying rifles seized Elian Gonzalez from the
home of his Miami relatives before dawn Saturday and whisked the crying 6-year-old away for
a reunion with his father.

U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno said in a news
conference after the seizure that the government tried
every way it could to get the Miami family to surrender
the boy before taking action.

A female federal agent carried the boy out of the house
wrapped in a blanket and placed him in a white van.

Reno made the decision to stage the raid just 30 minutes
before authorities went in, government sources said.

"The child has been safely removed from the house," a
Justice Department official said in a statement. "He is
currently on his way to be reunited with his father."

A government source told CNN that Elian was being flown
to Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland to be reunited
with his father. His father was en route to the base to meet
his son.

An administration official said White House Chief of Staff
John Podesta was kept informed about the Justice
Department operation and that President Clinton was
awakened and told when Elian had been removed from the
home.

Female agent carried Elian from the house

Dozens of agents surrounded the home of Elian's
great-uncle, Lazaro Gonzalez, shortly after 5 a.m. Some of
the agents wore jackets that said INS on the back and
others said Border Patrol.

CNN Justice Correspondent Pierre Thomas reported that a
senior Justice Department official told him that eight
agents entered the home. They were backed up by about
130 other agents including federal marshals.

The agents knocked three times and when there
was no response they kicked in the door of the
home.

The source said the female agent who carried
Elian from the home told him she knew he must
be frightened but that this would be over soon
and he would feel much better. The agent told
Elian she was taking him to his father and
wrapped him in a blanket.

Photos taken by an Associated Press
photographer inside the home during the raid
showed a helmeted agent holding a rifle and
reaching for Elian, who was being held by an
adult.

A short time later, a woman ran from the home
with Elian in her arms and put him in the van that drove away.

Video taken inside the home after Elian was removed showed his great-uncle Lazaro Gonzalez
and his cousin Marisleysis, crying and being comforted by others inside the home.

Crowd grows quickly

"Assassins," yelled some of the approximately
100 protesters, some of whom climbed over the
barricades in an attempt to stop the agents.

"The world is watching!" yelled Delfin
Gonzalez, the brother of Lazaro Gonzalez.

"They were animals," said Jess Garcia, a
bystander. "They gassed women and children
to take a defenseless child out of here. We were
assaulted with no provocation."

Within an hour of the raid, the crowd in Little
Havana quickly swelled. Some of the crowd
held hands and prayed.

Elian found by fishermen

Elian was rescued by two fishermen while clinging to an inner tube off the Florida coast on
November 25. He and two others survived, but his mother and 10 others drowned when their
boat sank while trying to reach the United States from Cuba.

The boy's Miami relatives have cared for him ever since. They insist Elian will be better off
living with them and argue that the boy would be psychologically harmed and face persecution
if he is returned to communist-ruled Cuba.
 
This administration has NEVER done ANYTHING right. Half truths and outright lies flow from the mouths of everyone in the administration like water from a fosset. They don't care about right or wrong. When I judge them by their actions, it becomes obvious (at least to me, anyway) that no one in the Clinton Whitehouse cares about freedom, the Constitution or the ideals that made this country great and free.

This doesn't bode well for the near future of this country. And, as a result, I'm going to make a couple of predictions.

Bill Clinton will not leave office in January. He (or someone in his administration) will figure out a way to subvert the Constitution and stay in control.

I'm not holding my breath on getting any REAL support from the Republicans in Congress. Oh they'll complain a little bit with the media and the talking heads but they won't do anything that would be considered substantial. Congress is full of a bunch of wimps (and more traitors). The Clinton admin has even been successful in neutering Congress.

Does anyone remember the quote that says "Evil men come to power when good men do nothing"? This quote describes our Congress perfectly.

That leads me to my final prediction about the near future of this country. Like I said, Clinton won't leave like a "good president" normally would. Plus, Congress doesn't have the guts to do anything about this (or any of the other Clinton screw ups, lies and treasonist acts). This will take America to a crossroads and the road that America will eventually take will depend upon the choices that we, the American citizens, make. There will be two roads that we will have a choice to take. The roads will be known as "Freedom" and "Slavery". If we choose "Freedom" then we will have to have a successful rebellion before anything or anyone will make Clinton leave office. If we choose "Slavery" then America will go the same way as China, Russia and Cuba have gone. We will no longer be a free nation.

In the past, I've noticed that many posters (especially on certain newsgroups) have periodically asked "When will enough be enough" or "Where is the line in the sand"?
Well, IMO, when Clinton decides to stay in office that should be considered the line in the stand.

Where America goes from here will depend upon the choices that we, the American Citizens, will make and upon the graces of God Himself.

It's now Easter Weekend. Let us all ponder what Easter ultimately means. It's about Gods love for people and, as a result of that love, it's about freedom, sacrifice, and new beginnings.

We will all know within the next 8 months whether or not my predictions will come true. Personally, I hope my predictions don't come true. I will be more than happy to come back here next January and eat a little crow.

May God bless, and have mercy, on this country.
 
photographer cvertainly was in a dramatic location at the right time:
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Elian Gonzalez clings to
Donato Dalrymple in a
closet as government
officials enter the Miami
home to take the boy to his
father. Dalrymple is one of
the fishermen who
rescued Elian from the
ocean.

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A federal agent finds
Elian and Dalrymple
 
Well you can't say you didn't see this coming. This whole thing has been a disaster from the day the kid was found. I knew they would eventually have to take him by force, but I didn't expect a pre-dawn government ninjas with full auto weapons raid. Of all the possable ways they could have gotten Elian, this has to the the stupidest.
And who do we have to thank for all this? The media. If they hadn't latched onto Elian and turned him into some sort of superstar, he would have been sent back to Cuba just like any other illegal immigrant long ago.
There's more than enough blame to go around for everybody. The government, the media, the family and everybody else who tried to exploit a six year old for their own polical purposes.
This is what happens when you try to deal with serious issues on an emotional basis. Now, where have I heard that before?
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TFL's official "Curmudgeon Member" and damned proud of it!
 
Bill "the slimebag" Clinton was just on TV claiming credit for ordering the raid. He promptly walked off after announced his (as always) bad judgement. Once again, I am ashamed of my government. I thought the boy should have gone to his dad, but not like this.
 
Well we all knew this would happen. I've been watching FOX News and they have been fairly objective and really haven't given the administration a break.

I just hope this event drives a stake in the heart of algore and hillary's campaigns.

The Cuban American community has my support and my admiration for remaining peaceful so far. I don't know if I could.

I have always associated the thought of taking children from thier beds while they slept at gunpoint with nazi germany. Is this what our gov't has become?

We need to take our country back.

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Dan

Si vis pacem para bellum!




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