Strafer Gott
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Maybe Lambchop is a little too sinister.
James Yeager Youtube Rant
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I don't know anything about this Yeager guy, aside from his shooting his mouth off and letting his anger and frustration override what others have tried to teach him.
I try and teach my students that with each right that we so proudly trumpet comes a corresponding responsibility. My students don't really like to hear that part. Still...
I appreciate BGutzman's comment:
"If we want to stop violence then we need to hear each other as a community and reassure each other that we are a community and that we have lawful constructive ways to resolve these things. We can stop a lot of violence if we can just be silent enough to hear each other..."
Good words.
I try and teach my students that with each right that we so proudly trumpet comes a corresponding responsibility. My students don't really like to hear that part. Still...
I appreciate BGutzman's comment:
"If we want to stop violence then we need to hear each other as a community and reassure each other that we are a community and that we have lawful constructive ways to resolve these things. We can stop a lot of violence if we can just be silent enough to hear each other..."
Good words.
When you here young men or anybody saying things like he said . Is that not the very red flags / signs of somebody that is unstable . Every time there is a a shooting there are people saying there were signs that the person was going to do something bad . If a guy saying , if you push me one inch further I'm going to start killing people is not a sign bad things to come from that individual then what is .
Yes you have the right to say what ever you want but when you start saying your going to start killing people . You no longer get to play with the big boy toys .
Yes you have the right to say what ever you want but when you start saying your going to start killing people . You no longer get to play with the big boy toys .
Double Naught Spy
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And we have discussed this very point on this forum and several have queried as to why somebody else didn't do something to keep the (sometimes only after-the-fact confirmed dangerous) person from doing harm.
So Yeager has finally said enough bizarre stuff enough times and now managed to do it in a form to catch the attention of people in a position to officially query what Yeager is saying and took the action to suspend his carry permit. That won't stop Yeager from doing what he said he would do if he decides to do so, however, but at least we are all aware that he has stated that he is on the edge.
I'm not condoning for one second what he said, but this country was founded on the ideals of freedom and one of those freedoms was the right to be of different beliefs, even outrageously different beliefs. In fact most of our founders have very different beliefs than the communities they came from and that is in large part why they came here.
Where in the world is change and unhappiness never found? It doesn't happen and from a historical perspective these things go back as far as you can dig, they are not exclusive to our time.
I truly believe that gentlemen like this would not be so spun up if we were acting as a closer knit community. People act out when the feel defenseless and powerless. I think that reassurance that most of these anti gun proposals are probably going nowhere would help along with understanding that much of what may get past probably wont have a leg to stand on in the courts given recent decisions...
It could also be that he does have some sort of legitimate mental issue if we were a closer community then maybe would could help influence him to go get help. We are all human, we all make mistakes.
Where in the world is change and unhappiness never found? It doesn't happen and from a historical perspective these things go back as far as you can dig, they are not exclusive to our time.
I truly believe that gentlemen like this would not be so spun up if we were acting as a closer knit community. People act out when the feel defenseless and powerless. I think that reassurance that most of these anti gun proposals are probably going nowhere would help along with understanding that much of what may get past probably wont have a leg to stand on in the courts given recent decisions...
It could also be that he does have some sort of legitimate mental issue if we were a closer community then maybe would could help influence him to go get help. We are all human, we all make mistakes.
I've enjoyed some of his videos in the past, but it's probably good that this dude has his permit suspended. Sounds like he is threatening to kill people who would be just doing their job and serving their country in enforcing any new law (that hasn't even been proposed yet). He's threatening the US Govt as well. I appreciate his service to the country, but it seems like he has more in common with terrorists than not at this point. His attitude, "see it my way or I will kill people," is not a position in a debate, it is a threat.
This guy probably shouldn't own assault weapons either. Not everyone here thinks that anyone who wants one should get to own any weapon they want. I would not favor the common man arming himself with 1000 pound bombs, nukes, or M1A Abrams tanks. I think maybe it's time that the common man go through some additional screening to own an AR type weapon and at least have it registered. Expanding the NFA to encompass military style rifles might be a decent compromise.
This guy probably shouldn't own assault weapons either. Not everyone here thinks that anyone who wants one should get to own any weapon they want. I would not favor the common man arming himself with 1000 pound bombs, nukes, or M1A Abrams tanks. I think maybe it's time that the common man go through some additional screening to own an AR type weapon and at least have it registered. Expanding the NFA to encompass military style rifles might be a decent compromise.
The issues are bigger than a lot of what's been presented here so far, I think.
It's been broached in public at http://www.papadeltabravo.com/blog/?p=1581, from which I quote (so I don't have to write it myself):
First, this is all of course incredibly absurd, and stupidly makes the entire civilian friendly firearms training community look ridiculous, dangerous, and ripe for regulation and restriction. One would think that someone who has argued against open carry as a PR tool would understand the risk of this kind of negative imagery.
Like I mentioned above, I believe this was inevitable given the kind of criticism-free environment low-rent trainers steep themselves in. Having systematically purged all questioning voices from his orbit, Yeager has set himself up for this kind of public failure. Is there anyone in his circle that is willing to advise against publicly challenging people to a duel over youtube comments? Apparently not!
But most importantly, the value of all Tactical Response training has been reduced significantly. A big argument in favor of obtaining professional firearms training is that it helps the citizen win the hypothetical post-shooting legal battle by making him appear proficient, skilled and conscientious. A Tactical Response diploma is now a real liability, as any DA or ambulance chaser can paint the shooter as “taught to shoot by that crazy guy who threatens to duel people over comments on the internet”.
An instructor who understood these things and valued his reputation and the quality of his instruction over his ego and hurt feelings would immediately retract these comments and videos (better still, not make them at all), but given past events, this is not what will happen. Instead, I sadly predict that without any colleagues who respect him enough to criticize his increasingly erratic behavior, he will double down on stupid.
With so many excellent instructors around these days willing to train civilians to shoot, I wonder why people continue to pick this place. In my opinion, your money is well spent elsewhere.
This is the tough part IMHO - makes the entire civilian friendly firearms training community look ridiculous, dangerous, and ripe for regulation and restriction.
Deciding it was the better part of valor to take down a TR certificate (if I had one- I don't) off my BTDT wall and remove the class(es) from my gun school curriculum vitae is a relatively small thing by comparison IMHO.
It's been broached in public at http://www.papadeltabravo.com/blog/?p=1581, from which I quote (so I don't have to write it myself):
First, this is all of course incredibly absurd, and stupidly makes the entire civilian friendly firearms training community look ridiculous, dangerous, and ripe for regulation and restriction. One would think that someone who has argued against open carry as a PR tool would understand the risk of this kind of negative imagery.
Like I mentioned above, I believe this was inevitable given the kind of criticism-free environment low-rent trainers steep themselves in. Having systematically purged all questioning voices from his orbit, Yeager has set himself up for this kind of public failure. Is there anyone in his circle that is willing to advise against publicly challenging people to a duel over youtube comments? Apparently not!
But most importantly, the value of all Tactical Response training has been reduced significantly. A big argument in favor of obtaining professional firearms training is that it helps the citizen win the hypothetical post-shooting legal battle by making him appear proficient, skilled and conscientious. A Tactical Response diploma is now a real liability, as any DA or ambulance chaser can paint the shooter as “taught to shoot by that crazy guy who threatens to duel people over comments on the internet”.
An instructor who understood these things and valued his reputation and the quality of his instruction over his ego and hurt feelings would immediately retract these comments and videos (better still, not make them at all), but given past events, this is not what will happen. Instead, I sadly predict that without any colleagues who respect him enough to criticize his increasingly erratic behavior, he will double down on stupid.
With so many excellent instructors around these days willing to train civilians to shoot, I wonder why people continue to pick this place. In my opinion, your money is well spent elsewhere.
This is the tough part IMHO - makes the entire civilian friendly firearms training community look ridiculous, dangerous, and ripe for regulation and restriction.
Deciding it was the better part of valor to take down a TR certificate (if I had one- I don't) off my BTDT wall and remove the class(es) from my gun school curriculum vitae is a relatively small thing by comparison IMHO.
Glenn E. Meyer
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That is a good point as Lee knows. Sometimes training and then more blood thirsty sounding training quotes have been brought up at trial.
Things like:
Always cheat and always win
Have a plan to kill everyone you see.
etc.
have surfaced in at least one case I know.
Things like:
Always cheat and always win
Have a plan to kill everyone you see.
etc.
have surfaced in at least one case I know.
The Patriot Nurse; YouTube.com statements...
JY's recent video clips reminds me of a online post by a woman with the website; www.thepatriotnurse.com .
She was in a YouTube clip with Yeager & went on a 2A/gun control rant.
The woman claims to work in the medical field & is a "doomsday" prepare/wide-scale disaster survival movement member.
She also put up a YouTube clip warning 2A supporters & viewers to "watch what they say".
I guess JY didn't watch her clip.
ClydeFrog
JY's recent video clips reminds me of a online post by a woman with the website; www.thepatriotnurse.com .
She was in a YouTube clip with Yeager & went on a 2A/gun control rant.
The woman claims to work in the medical field & is a "doomsday" prepare/wide-scale disaster survival movement member.
She also put up a YouTube clip warning 2A supporters & viewers to "watch what they say".
I guess JY didn't watch her clip.
ClydeFrog
Texshooter
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It just seems to me that this Yeager fellow thinks too much of himself.
Maybe I just don't understand his sense of style or humor.
Maybe I just don't understand his sense of style or humor.
Sgt Pepper
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He's a self-absorbed idiot. Period.
SPEMack618
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Not only does he make the gun owner community look bad, he also reflects very poorly on the private security industry.