It's my birthday and I'm considering a 9mm carbine,,,

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Today is my birthday and I'm considering treating myself to a new range toy,,,
This would really be a "just for the heck of it" purchase,,,
Like I really need another firearm of any kind. :D

One thing I do not own is a semi-auto carbine,,,
I could go for a 9mm as it would mate nicely with my CZ-75B.

I recently fired a Beretta Cx4 Storm owned by a range acquaintance,,,
To tell the truth I wasn't at all enamored of that carbine,,,
Especially once I found out how much it cost,,,
$700.00 Plus is too much for a range toy.

I see the Hi Point 9mm carbines listed for way less than $300.00 on several websites,,,
And the reviews the owners give them are usually very favorable.

My question is this,,,
Are there any 9mm semi-auto carbines between those two in price?,,,
I've been searching and can't seem to find other options then those two manufacturers.

Anyone have any 9mm carbines you could tell me about?

One other question about the Hi Point in particular,,,
Is that Red Dot sight a worthwhile option?,,,
Or is the 4X Scope a better way to go?

Aarond
 
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Ruger PC9's are still out there on the used market, good rifles.

Marlin Camp 9's are also out there used.

Kel Tec Sub 2000's are neat, still being made but a bit hard to find at times.

I'm sure I'm missing several.
 
Thanks RetiredMajor and ohen cepel,,,

That Kel Tec 2000 looks very sweet,,,
I found it (out of stock) on the buds gun shop website,,,
The price is right though as it "last sold at" a mere $280.00.

I noticed it could be configured for several different magazines,,,
It's a crying shame that mags for the CZ-75B won't fit. :(

That's a viable looking carbine for my shopping list,,,
Wonder why didn't it show when I searched "9mm + rifle" on the website.

Thanks again Gentlemen.

Aarond
 
The Beretta is the top choice, by far, but you're right, way too expensive. I've tried the KelTec and absolutely hated the cheek weld. I have a Hi-Point 995 in an ATI stock and it is fantastic. Get one, you won't be disappointed.
 
Hello jonnyc,,,

That part about the Kel Tec looked a bit funky to me as well,,,
How do you get a cheek weld on a piece of tubing?

I searched and found that ATI stock,,,
Kind of makes the Hi Point look like a Cx4 Storm.

Thanks for the info my friend.

Aarond
 
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"... I've tried the KelTec and absolutely hated the cheek weld..."

There's a tube cover you can buy for about ten bucks goes over the bolt tube that makes the check weld not as bad. But another solution is to say to heck with the iron sights and go with a laser - several ways to mount them - here's my set up - get that sucker zeroed in and you can shoot 2" groups, rapid fire at 30 feet. Fun? Its a blast, especiallly with a 30 round mag!
 

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Happy friggin birthday.

But please, before you consider a 9mm hear what i have to say.

First off, DO NOT go with a hi-point. My dad owns one, after countless hours of disassembly, reassembly, cleaning...it still jams after every fourth shell on 3 different kinds of good ammo. Please stay away from those.

Also, www.centerfiresystems.com has some really cool variations. Some are century...I know...do research on them. They have the sterling 9mm, the polish tok (762x25 9mm equiv) and also the famed mp5. the mp5 will run you 1200, but that gun is your bang for your buck.

Ive heard mixed, good and bad about kel-tecs.

Heard nothing but praise and admiration for the berretta.

By the way...go ahead take your chances get a hipoint IF your only a range shooter. Not a hunter or someone who may have a shtf list.

Thanks,

Rock and Roll
 
The Kel-Tec is a fun gun to shoot but it does have some draw backs. Its difficult to mount a scope or red dot without making it difficult to impossible to fold. You would have to have a way to move the red dot or scope if you still want to fold it. It is also difficult to clean inside the receiver and the trigger group isn't accessable for cleaning without taking out the receiver screws. It also has no last shot hold open which I would very much like to have. The magazines are already set up for a last shot hold open so I don't know why Kel-Tec didn't put one on it.

Even with the draw backs the gun is still worth having. I mounted a AK47 quick release side rail scope mount on mine and ever since I put the red dot on it the accuracy has been great. Its hard to miss soda cans at 50 yards.
 
Skip the HiPoint, get the KelTec. Mine went back to the factory four times. The 10rd mag was a major detraction as well.

Now I believe Taurus has a 9mm carbine out, don't know a thing about it though.
 
BergisheLandSaint11 said:
First off, DO NOT go with a hi-point. My dad owns one, after countless hours of disassembly, reassembly, cleaning...it still jams after every fourth shell on 3 different kinds of good ammo. Please stay away from those.
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Soooo...what you're saying is you never allowed Hi-Point the chance to fix it?

If you're not willing to spend a lot, the choices get really narrowed...to the point of Kel-Tec being my only suggestion...begrudgingly...
 
nothing in the way of complete rifles. I like the hipoint though the trigger is kindof sloppy but that's the case for just about any 9mm carbine I've tried. have you ever though of the command arms RONI? it's a dropin kit for pistols that works a lot like a cornershot in that it's just a polymer stock and a pistol locks in via the light rail so it effectively becomes the frame and the slide assembly becomes the bolt carrier group. if you have a glock17/19, sig226 or XD/M9 then there is a non NFA conversion kit for them. the non NFA kit is $500 but if you have no problem with a tax stamp then they cost $400 and come availible in other calibers and extra models like PX4s and bersas.

I like the idea because it's more compact than your average carbine and you can always swap between pistol and rifle. case in point
you want to go camping in bear country so you strap your trusty glock to your hip, throw the RONI stock in your backpack and take off. once you get to camp you take out the RONI, lock the glock inside and start taking out pine cones, soup cans ETC. then when you want to hike/leave camp for whatever reason you just leave the RONI in camp and pack the glock on your hip again.
 
I gave hi point a chance with the purchase of a 9mm.

My father got a 45 and a 9 mm carbine...

all three guns have caused us grief. not to the point of throwing them away, but at the same time....Im done with a manufacturer when my and everyone elses hi point wont shoot.

I know some hipoints will outshoot a kimber probably...but why chance it. Shipping it back is a HUGE hastle and you cant always trust reproductions.

just my two cents. Out of all the guns ive used, hi point is 2/10.

but like i said, check out the sterlings on centerfire.com
 
I have both a Ruger PC9 and Marlin Camp 9 and much prefer the PC9. The Marlin came to me in a no option trade but I kept it and now have a S&W 9mm pistol which uses the same mags.
There is no doubt they are fun to shoot but they add a new dimension to the ability of the 9mm cartridge. From the carbines, the 9mm is a viable 100 yard round.
 
My Hi-Point 9mm carbine is solid as a rock. I mounted a BSA red-dot on it and its a blast to shoot out to 100yrds. Suprisingly accurate too boot. I have yet to have a problem with any of the 3 mags I have for it. Honestly cant remember ever having a malfunction out of it plus they have a lifetime no questions asked warranty. Whats not to like.
 
Hi-Point has super-human customer service, no reason to be holding one that doesn't work. No need to ever take one apart, spray clean and lube every 1000 rounds or so. Only drawback is the lack of hi-cap mags.
 
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