isn't not having a manual safety(like for a glock) dangerous?

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Nope.

Just keep your finger off of the trigger :D

I have a 17, which I really like. I carry it around the bush with a round chambered all the time. I'm comfortable with it. Cops carry 'em this way as well.

Just get a holster that covers the trigger ;)
 
If someone is always aware of safety and the rules of safety then no. For an in-experienced person with little firearms knowledge or safety awareness then yes. With that said, any gun is dangerous to people who fall into this category. In many ways the Glock can be safer, because its user must always treat the gun as if it's loaded and not to rely on a safety. What if someone thinks the safety is on and pulls the trigger on a SA gun. With guns with no manual safety and tend to prefer a true DA trigger pull. Everybody feels differently about which action type is safer or more effective. I like DA/SA semi-autos with just a decocker. Safe and very quick to get into action.
 
Let's see now, an inexperienced person trying to learn the manual-of-arms of a handgun is safer with a handgun that has one more thing to learn to work and depend on? Yep, that makes a lot of sense!

The original design for the 1911s didn't provide for either a grip or thumb safety.
 
+1 on all responses. fallible safeties are unnecessary if people are responsible. guess we can't always count on that but for the jackasses with guns a safety's not going to do much to help them.
 
The Glock is essnetially a slightly more complicated revolver. There's no need for a safety on any gun with a relatively heavy trigger pull.

decockers are nice to have as a convenience.

Really the only guns that I think should have a safety are single action designs meant to be carried cocked and locked.
 
Manual or Glock Safety?

From 1967 until 1990 I carried and shot a 1911 Colt. I never did feel confortable with the gun "Cocked and Locked". The manual safety could slip off or it could fail.
When Glock came out with a gun, where you could cock it and let the gun safely sit for 100 years, I BOUGHT IT.
 
Well it is more dangerous than some guns, on a purely practical scale, but overall I would consider any gun generally dangerous if not handled properly. If you prefer a little extra safety the XDs are quite similar to Glock and have a grip safety.
 
Depends on the user, the amount of attention he gives to what he's doing, the level of familierity he has with the equipment, and how lackadaisical they are. I've seen ND's with saftied guns and safety with non saftied guns.

No matter how much they don't want to admit it, safety is all in the user, regardless of mechanical devices or lack therof.
 
No.

ANY gun is dangerous in the hands of a fool or an idiot.

Interestingly enough, I have witnessed two accidental discharges. Both of these firearms were single action and had manual safeties.
 
Up until the introduction of the Glock, there were two ways of carrying a ready to fire weapon: Cocked, with safety on. Or decocked, with a fully unsprung DA trigger.

Glock is the first gun to suggest that a light trigger and no safety was "okay". (The 1911 was not. JMB did not expect anyone to carry a cocked and UNlocked automatic.)


Consequently, Glocks seem to have a higher rate of ADs than many other designs, including the safetyless revolvers they largely replaced. Those in favor of the system blame human error - but what is it to be human without error? Mistakes happen and fingers (or holster straps) end up in the wrong place. The AD rate is no surprise.
 
As I read in another forum "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" :rolleyes:

You can get a SafeTBlok for Glocks which fits behind the trigger. Great for Mexican carry or carry out of a holster.

I just got one recently and love it.
 
"Consequently, Glocks seem to have a higher rate of ADs than many other designs"

Does anyone have any actual facts that support this statement?

Not trying to start anything, but comments like this one always strike me funny.

A lot of internet "facts" start out as simple little statements of opinion that get repeated so often they gain acceptance.

Not just about Glocks...and not just about ND's

Once again...not picking on Handy...I see it all the time...it just bugs me
 
As has been said many times before,safety lies between the ears.
Weapon familiarity and following basic safe handling procedures is the name of the game,regardless of the type of action your weapon has.
 
the most reliable safety is the human safety. take your finger off the trigger.
indeed safeties are required on SA pistols. on DA/SA a decocking lever should be enough. ive never been able to trust a glock, irrational maybe but im like that sometimes.
 
Madison's comment kind of confues me - you feel a 1911 cocked and locked is less safe then a cocked Glock, because the 1911 safety might fail? It would still be a step safer then the Glock - because of the grip safety, AND - just as w/a Glock - you still have to pull the trigger. What did you think was unsafe about the 1911? Was it the hammer inadvertantly falling?
 
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