The evidence at hand demonstartes a result counter to the atributes of torture (effective, yields valuble intell).
No evidence has been presented that shows a result that matches the atributes of torture (ineffective, does not yield valuble intell).
Policy of those considered expert by your citing of thier training/opinion/policy is counter to thier position about waterboarding.
The comprehension problem seems to not be the ability to see past emotive bias.
The arguement is repeatedly dependent on a strained definition of torture, an exploded view of what the scope of what waterboarding is or has been used for (asphixiation, dunking heads underwater, drowning, law enforcement applications), or the use of a fascist state scenario to try to keep a hold of the hash interrogation=torture sophistry.
Defining something that leaves you whole, uninjured, and as well 20 minutes after as were before (essentially frightening them into spilling their guts about the details) requires a very strained definition of torture in the face of threatening ANY nations national security or for killing their innocent civilians for the purpose of causing terror is hardly unreasonable let alone immoral.
No evidence has been presented that shows a result that matches the atributes of torture (ineffective, does not yield valuble intell).
Policy of those considered expert by your citing of thier training/opinion/policy is counter to thier position about waterboarding.
The comprehension problem seems to not be the ability to see past emotive bias.
The arguement is repeatedly dependent on a strained definition of torture, an exploded view of what the scope of what waterboarding is or has been used for (asphixiation, dunking heads underwater, drowning, law enforcement applications), or the use of a fascist state scenario to try to keep a hold of the hash interrogation=torture sophistry.
Defining something that leaves you whole, uninjured, and as well 20 minutes after as were before (essentially frightening them into spilling their guts about the details) requires a very strained definition of torture in the face of threatening ANY nations national security or for killing their innocent civilians for the purpose of causing terror is hardly unreasonable let alone immoral.