#1 A gun is not always for self defense ( target practice, competition ) #2 The way you stated in your previous post you make it sound as if anyone buying a gun is out to shoot people. #3 If someone bought a gun for shooting puppies they should not own a gun And where you got that one is beyond me. #4 I have known several people who have has serious problems with their indestructible Glocks as well as as their S&W's and Rugers. I don't call you a liar because people do have problems sometimes. ( People tend to forget that cars, Refrigerators , Computers and yes Gun are man by men and if you know a perfect man than that man is in Heaven )
Is Taurus any good?
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IrishBluEyes51
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i have a taurus 431 .44 special.. beautiful gun..seems well made, in fact looks just like a smith...accurate and smooth...had it 5 years now...not even a burp. for HD i have no qualms about trusting it. like all my guns I take good care of it. its a good one and keeping it good is no mystery. keep it clean and oiled wrapped in a silicon cloth...ready at night...
glocktwotwo
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Kingaby you did highlight that Glock is for shooting people and then posted that the reason I bought a gun is to kill people I said you said kill big difference none the less your right a puppy shooter is sick just please don't make me sound like im a homicidal nut job its not even close perhaps I should have stated that in a self defense situation a Glock is in my opinion a good gun to shoot people .
Kingaby you did highlight that Glock is for shooting people and then posted that the reason I bought a gun is to kill people I said you said kill big difference none the less your right a puppy shooter is sick just please don't make me sound like im a homicidal nut job its not even close perhaps I should have stated that in a self defense situation a Glock is in my opinion a good gun to shoot people .
Now that sounds a little better. I can understand saying that a Glock is your choice for self defense.I personally trust my Taurus 617 for self defense like others trust their S&W and others their Rugers. But again I will say just because you have had a bad experience with a different brand does not mean it is a bad brand. Like I have posted I have known people who have had problems with Glock,S&W and Ruger. Again does not mean they are bad guns.
I have owned one Taurus....it was in the just OK bracket. I am not a Taurus hater. I don't care about name brands, if a gun works then it's Ok with me.
On the plus side, Taurus has lots of models I like, good features, etc.
On the minus side, Taurus quality has never been top notch, but it appears (to me) that it is even getting worse in recent years. But they have good sales and make more money than most gun manufactures.
A couple of years ago I looked at the public financial statements of some of the gun companies. For example, I remember that Taurus world wide sales/profits far exceeded Smith & Wesson. I have the feeling that Taurus management is willing to live with less than stellar quality as long as the profits keep coming.
On the plus side, Taurus has lots of models I like, good features, etc.
On the minus side, Taurus quality has never been top notch, but it appears (to me) that it is even getting worse in recent years. But they have good sales and make more money than most gun manufactures.
A couple of years ago I looked at the public financial statements of some of the gun companies. For example, I remember that Taurus world wide sales/profits far exceeded Smith & Wesson. I have the feeling that Taurus management is willing to live with less than stellar quality as long as the profits keep coming.
glocktwotwo
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To kingabby I've had a few Taurus models their revolvers were the best. However the pt709slim was horrible. I've had 3 blocks all good.thanks for picking on me. No sarcasm sometimes I come across very crude
glocktwotwo
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I will say this about Taurus if you want a flashy gun Taurus does make some very pretty guns
It's the type of QC failures that Taurus has that bothers me the most.
There are two general types of QC failures.
Design flaws (this includes material)
Generally manufacturing personnel have little control on design flaws. But the good news is that once they are fixed they stay fixed. Of course design flaws are usually associated with new model introductions.
Manufacturing/assembly QC failures.
These failures occur because manufacturing does not make or assemble parts to an existing print (specification). These problems can come and go depending on how good manufacturing does their job. Sometimes these types of failures can be glaring failures like not boring a cylinder to size or depth, or making assemble mistakes that in turn case failures.
Taurus seems to do fairly well on the design side for QC failures, but they have way too many failures on the manufacturing QC side. It's one thing to have a gun with a design flaw that can be corrected, and yet another thing to have a gun with a glaring flaw that should have been caught by the most amateur assembly workers.
There are two general types of QC failures.
Design flaws (this includes material)
Generally manufacturing personnel have little control on design flaws. But the good news is that once they are fixed they stay fixed. Of course design flaws are usually associated with new model introductions.
Manufacturing/assembly QC failures.
These failures occur because manufacturing does not make or assemble parts to an existing print (specification). These problems can come and go depending on how good manufacturing does their job. Sometimes these types of failures can be glaring failures like not boring a cylinder to size or depth, or making assemble mistakes that in turn case failures.
Taurus seems to do fairly well on the design side for QC failures, but they have way too many failures on the manufacturing QC side. It's one thing to have a gun with a design flaw that can be corrected, and yet another thing to have a gun with a glaring flaw that should have been caught by the most amateur assembly workers.
"A couple of years ago I looked at the public financial statements of some of the gun companies. For example, I remember that Taurus world wide sales/profits far exceeded Smith & Wesson. I have the feeling that Taurus management is willing to live with less than stellar quality as long as the profits keep coming."
So because a company makes more money, it must be because they care less about quality and more about the almighty buck?
Do you really think that way?
So let's turn this around. If S&W has such good CS, it should lead to more repeat business and increase their sales in the long term. So in the end they should make more money. So if 5 years from now S&W's profit goes up, you would equate that with a drop in caring about quality?
Some seriously faulted logic.
Taurus has cheaper manufacturing costs due to the geographic location of their manufacturing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why their profits would be higher.
Do you really think any publicly traded company is driven by altruistic motives? S&W is not an independent company anymore, and has not been in a long time.
So because a company makes more money, it must be because they care less about quality and more about the almighty buck?
Do you really think that way?
So let's turn this around. If S&W has such good CS, it should lead to more repeat business and increase their sales in the long term. So in the end they should make more money. So if 5 years from now S&W's profit goes up, you would equate that with a drop in caring about quality?
Some seriously faulted logic.
Taurus has cheaper manufacturing costs due to the geographic location of their manufacturing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why their profits would be higher.
Do you really think any publicly traded company is driven by altruistic motives? S&W is not an independent company anymore, and has not been in a long time.
Maybe they are shopping in the wrong places, I know one gun shop, $300 Taurus 85 and S&W $400
Or another gun shop, $350 S&W and $340 Taurus 85
I agree though, Taurus is pumping out too many different gun styles, if you look at their home page they have like 100 revolver styles, between, Ultralite, SS or B, BBL's and other factors I think its crazy. Me thinks to many guns pumping out and not enough people to man the QC lines.
A family member's friend has a Taurus 454 and likes it.
Dave Chuppa
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If you can find a Firearm Co. that has never had Guns returned for repair, let me know. I have worked at Gun Stores for more than Ten years and haven't found any that are perfect.
hydroholic
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Every Taurus I have owned has been stellar, but I have only owned revolvers. I have sold two S&W's in the same caliber as two of the Tauri I own, because to me , the Tauri were more comfortable to shoot and therefore, I could shoot them more accurately. And I do think the Taurus revolvers look better, especially over the ugly ass flat barrelled S&W's. Older ones look fine.
I have owned 7 Taurus handguns, 5 of which have required at least one trip to the factory for repair. These were all problems on new guns. So, my answer to the question of "Is Taurus any good?", would be "No". I no longer buy Taurus firearms. Of course there are many others who feel otherwise.
Taurus is a company that has the possibility of moving to top of the hill in the firearms world........but I said possibility.
-good designs.
-made of good materials.
-but, quality control is lacking.
Until Taurus solves their QC issues they will not rise to the top....at least not the top for quality reputation.
-good designs.
-made of good materials.
-but, quality control is lacking.
Until Taurus solves their QC issues they will not rise to the top....at least not the top for quality reputation.