Is hunting just for the rich now?
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warbirdlover
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Wisconsin has a bazillion acres of public hunting land. LOT'S of it and if you do your research you can find a place that isn't too pressured. There's also the Nicolet National forest and some other state forests up north where you will not see another hunter. Of course the wolves have eliminated all the deer but.... 
I lease 40 acres with a few other guys for cheap. It beats owning land and paying the taxes and it is primo.
I guess Texas hasn't got the idea. Or the DNR don't.
I lease 40 acres with a few other guys for cheap. It beats owning land and paying the taxes and it is primo.
I guess Texas hasn't got the idea. Or the DNR don't.
Doyle is 100% correct...
The only thing POSTING your land in florida does, is advise LEO's that you want them to have your advanced permission to stop ANY ONE they see coming or going on to your land and ask for the legally required (for any non land owner) WRITTEN permission from the land owner stating you have permission and for what activities...
Brent
The only thing POSTING your land in florida does, is advise LEO's that you want them to have your advanced permission to stop ANY ONE they see coming or going on to your land and ask for the legally required (for any non land owner) WRITTEN permission from the land owner stating you have permission and for what activities...
Brent
I guess it depends on where you live. Wyoming has lots of public land, which means it public and the public can hunt there without paying fees or getting permission.
Also the Wyoming Fish and Game has developed a program with private land owners where more and more private land is being opened up for "walk in" hunting.
Thats one reason I left Alaska. For the most part, big game hunting has turned into a money sport. Lots of land and game, but the people are crowded into pockets, and there is a limited road system.
I like the ideal of keeping hunting with in the means of everyone. This was brought home one time when I was hunting deer. I had killed a deer and was driving out this little logging road when I came across an old Toyota. Not what you would call a hunting rig. I started looking around to see if someone need help Acouple hundred yards off the road I see two young (adult) girls. They looked puzzled so I stopped to see if anything was wrong.
It appears the had a deer down and didn't have any ideal what to do with it.
What happened was both were single mothers, and to supplement their food bills they chipped in and bought a deer tag, borrowed a rifle and shot a deer.
I respect people trying to feed their family on their own, regardless of income. I dress their deer and loaded it in their car. I then gave them my deer also.
It was fun trying to stuff two deer into the back of a little Toyota though.
I did recommend they take a hunter safety course before hunting again since it was the law. It cost $5 bucks but they'll waive that fee if you can't afford it.
Anyway, thats one thing I like about Wyoming. You don't need tons of money to hunt and fish. All you need is the desire.
Also the Wyoming Fish and Game has developed a program with private land owners where more and more private land is being opened up for "walk in" hunting.
Thats one reason I left Alaska. For the most part, big game hunting has turned into a money sport. Lots of land and game, but the people are crowded into pockets, and there is a limited road system.
I like the ideal of keeping hunting with in the means of everyone. This was brought home one time when I was hunting deer. I had killed a deer and was driving out this little logging road when I came across an old Toyota. Not what you would call a hunting rig. I started looking around to see if someone need help Acouple hundred yards off the road I see two young (adult) girls. They looked puzzled so I stopped to see if anything was wrong.
It appears the had a deer down and didn't have any ideal what to do with it.
What happened was both were single mothers, and to supplement their food bills they chipped in and bought a deer tag, borrowed a rifle and shot a deer.
I respect people trying to feed their family on their own, regardless of income. I dress their deer and loaded it in their car. I then gave them my deer also.
It was fun trying to stuff two deer into the back of a little Toyota though.
I did recommend they take a hunter safety course before hunting again since it was the law. It cost $5 bucks but they'll waive that fee if you can't afford it.
Anyway, thats one thing I like about Wyoming. You don't need tons of money to hunt and fish. All you need is the desire.
Art Eatman
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A bunch of us once had a deer lease on a ranch near Uvalde, Texas. The rancher's fee was the amount of his annual school taxes. It kept going up and up...And then around 1978, three well-to-do guys from Houston offered almost four times as much money as we had been paying...
Texas Parks & Wildlife is doing what it can. Drawings for deer on wildlife management areas. Self-registration on them for quail. Deals with paper companies in east Texas for deer hunting...
Dangifino what to tell anybody. I guess either get rich or prioritize your disposable income toward hunting season.
Texas Parks & Wildlife is doing what it can. Drawings for deer on wildlife management areas. Self-registration on them for quail. Deals with paper companies in east Texas for deer hunting...
Dangifino what to tell anybody. I guess either get rich or prioritize your disposable income toward hunting season.
Uncle Buck
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Markj Wrote:
I agree 100% with dwwhite in post #10.
All you see is the deer, or turkey or some other type of game. What I see is the tax bills and my "I need to pay this" accounts.
How do I make money if the fence you just broke needs to be repaired? The gate you were supposed to close was left open and now I am chasing cows trying to get them back to where they belong?
Or the young calf that just ingested the plastic lunch bag you dropped and dies? (We butchered one steer and found a used 12 gauge shot shell in his stomach.)
Where were you when I was fixing fences? I need to hang a gate and could not find any help. The tractor got stuck and I had to walk a mile back to the house?
This year there will be one guy hunting on my land. That was the college kid who came to me last year and said "Mr. Buck, Can I help you around here to pay for hunting your place in the Fall?" The time to plan this years hunt was last year.
We have some public land about two miles from the house. It is littered with trash, trees are marked up with nails and screw in steps. Some areas look like it has been uses as a public latrine. People park where-ever they please and drive where-ever they think they will not get stuck.
I agree 100% with dwwhite in post #10.
All you see is the deer, or turkey or some other type of game. What I see is the tax bills and my "I need to pay this" accounts.
How do I make money if the fence you just broke needs to be repaired? The gate you were supposed to close was left open and now I am chasing cows trying to get them back to where they belong?
Or the young calf that just ingested the plastic lunch bag you dropped and dies? (We butchered one steer and found a used 12 gauge shot shell in his stomach.)
Where were you when I was fixing fences? I need to hang a gate and could not find any help. The tractor got stuck and I had to walk a mile back to the house?
This year there will be one guy hunting on my land. That was the college kid who came to me last year and said "Mr. Buck, Can I help you around here to pay for hunting your place in the Fall?" The time to plan this years hunt was last year.
We have some public land about two miles from the house. It is littered with trash, trees are marked up with nails and screw in steps. Some areas look like it has been uses as a public latrine. People park where-ever they please and drive where-ever they think they will not get stuck.
If you hunt, you're a hunter. If you have money, too, then you're a sportsman!
But some "sportsmen" are nice folks. One in-law of my wife is a true sportsman and very enthusiastic hunter. He has hunted in other countries, too, including Russia. So he knows his stuff. Other sportsmen are like Dick Cheney.
I used to be interested in hunting. Finally I realized that no hunter wants even more hunters out there. So I gave it up as a bad idea. But I have relatives who hunt, none near home, and I assure you, they are quite ordinary people.
And by the way, Mr. ritepath, I'm from Mercer County, just over the state line.
But some "sportsmen" are nice folks. One in-law of my wife is a true sportsman and very enthusiastic hunter. He has hunted in other countries, too, including Russia. So he knows his stuff. Other sportsmen are like Dick Cheney.
I used to be interested in hunting. Finally I realized that no hunter wants even more hunters out there. So I gave it up as a bad idea. But I have relatives who hunt, none near home, and I assure you, they are quite ordinary people.
And by the way, Mr. ritepath, I'm from Mercer County, just over the state line.
Much of the private land we hunt on in Washington and Oregon is forest owned by paper and lumber companies.
Sometimes they close the land and sometimes it's open. For some hunters it is closer of easier to get into than public land.
In both states logging of both public and private land has provided roads deep into the forest. Another benefit is clear cuts that provide open space for the deer to browse and for hunters to have a better chance of a clean shot.
Sometimes they close the land and sometimes it's open. For some hunters it is closer of easier to get into than public land.
In both states logging of both public and private land has provided roads deep into the forest. Another benefit is clear cuts that provide open space for the deer to browse and for hunters to have a better chance of a clean shot.
It's all down hill once you've got Bambi. Think on the bright side.
Works for me, I also help the neighbors with their harvest. I live out in the country on a hobby farm. I raise beef.
I have never hurt any land I have been on, the folks I speak of used to let us hunt, they retired and land went to their kids, kids wont let us hunt unless we pay a daily fee of 100 per gun. I am also a landowner, I moved to Iowa, help out the guys around us, I weld and was a mechanic so I help when I can.
I wasnt trying to upset ya, just speaking my point of view. In the 60s paying to hunt was unheard of, 70s it started in real good places like SD. 80s still hunting for free, old farmers had crp all over, they didnt work the land, theye retire, kids move in and are wanting to build up their place, this takes money. I understand this and dont hunt them places as I can hunt here now.
Had a steer shot once, a radiator in a truck shot once left me walking.
davlandrum
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Shame of it is, if it is easy to get to it is now locked (at least in my area) because of illegal dumping. I can't blame the timber companies, because it is their land getting trashed and they are stuck with clean up. Locked and no trespassing signs, so you can't even walk in. We used to hunt there and the same company owns it.
I have about 70 acres of land here at the house. I post it and forbid anybody from hunting on it. That way I only have maybe one or two guys sneaking in and hunting at any given time. I really don't mind if somebody kills a deer back there. But, giving guys you don't know permission is just a can of worms.
Art Eatman
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I've read through many and many a thread of this sort, these last dozen years at TFL and THR. The complaints from landowners in these threads seem to parallel the complaints from many as to the degradation in societal behavior insofar as self-centeredness and an absence of consideration of consequences.
bamaranger
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depends
Have not read all posts, but have to believe that it depends largely on the state in question.
Alabama has a reputation for limited public land, and all private land requires a written permit from the land owner (or leasee). The WMA are here, but typically heavily used for gun deer hunts.
Have not read all posts, but have to believe that it depends largely on the state in question.
Alabama has a reputation for limited public land, and all private land requires a written permit from the land owner (or leasee). The WMA are here, but typically heavily used for gun deer hunts.
BlueTrain...
I like solitude in the mountains, but I also enjoy running into other hunters if, say, I'm at a cafe before a morning of duck or chukar hunting. Or even if I'm in the field on public land and we're working the same cover and accidentally run into each other. As long as everyone is polite, I actually like running into other hunters. I guess it depends where and how you might be hunting. I guess I wouldn't really like running into other people if I'd hiked back 5 miles or so into a wilderness area and thought I'd have a spot to myself. There is still the camaraderie that gets me excited a lot of times.