Is .357 magnum Good for SD?

It depends on the person and the type of gun that he/she is using. From a terminal performance standpoint, the .357 Magnum is an excellent self-defense cartridge as it offers the ability to drive a heavy enough bullet fast enough to get aggressive (in some cases downright violent) expansion, possibly with moderate fragmentation, and still retain adequate penetration.

Where the cartridge becomes problematic for some people, particularly when they try to shoot it from a very small, light revolver, is blast and recoil. These properties are, however, rather subjective as what one person might consider comparable to the wrath of God, another might not find to be offensive in the least. I personally do not find the blast nor recoil of a .357 Magnum to be prohibitive. I have fired, or been present when someone else fired, a .357 Magnum from a relatively short barrel on more than one occasion two of which were in low light and one of which was indoors. While the flash and report were certainly noticeable and my ears rang a bit afterward, my vision was in no way impaired and I could still hear well enough to engage in normal conversation without difficulty immediately afterward. I have also suffered no noticeable long-term effect from those experiences.

Now, it is certainly true that firing a .357 Magnum without hearing protection is not advisable and will cause some degree of permanent hearing damage. However, firing any handgun without hearing protection is inadvisable and likely to cause permanent hearing damage. I admit that the blast of a .357 Magnum is more noticeable than many other common cartridges, but unless you plan to routinely practice without hearing protection (a rather foolish thing to do with any handgun) I very much doubt that the long term effects to your hearing would be substantially different.

In short, the terminal performance is certainly there if you can deal with the blast and recoil. The only way to find out if you can handle it is to try one yourself and make up your own mind.
 
I would buy the pre-lock 686 and stuff it with .38 special. If you are using it in your house, you're less than 20 feet from the attacker. You can't miss, even with followup shots, and the blast and sound will be bearable.

The tongue of fire that emanates from my .357's can be an impressive sight, and the heat wave that smacks me in the face is nothing to shake a stick at either. It seems like ridiculous overkill in the hallway of a house. I also have other inhabitants to worry about, I keep it to .38 Special and .380's.
 
Is .357 magnum Good for SD?

Yes it is quite good.

There are several makes of SD .357 Magnum ammo made with flash retardent powder that don't give much flash.

As for noise, any high powered handgun, .357, 9mm, .38 super, .40 S&W, .357 Sig, etc... will be quite loud indoors.

If it's a 686, yea that's a good heavy one and should do quite well.

Worst upon worst, just use +p .38s in it!

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Big guns are loud. I'm not sure the difference between a .357, .45, 9mm, .38 plus p is that significant to the unprotected ear. You're worrying too much. The .357 is a great defense round, as is the .38 plus P. Some powders give more, or less, muzzle flash than others. Ive seen "low flash" loads advertised.
 
38 special is a beautiful round for self defense. a 357 uses 98 percent of the same bullet weights at velocities and energy levels that well, out do the 38 specials maximum ability. so yes it is a good choice.

however, you can get low flash powders. barrel length can affect the amount of flash you get as longer barrel NORMALLY means more powder is burnt inside the barrel. and porting can affect muzzle flash.

shoot different guns with the same general ammo. i do doubt any gun range will let you use anythig but the ammo they provide, and that ammo tends to be the cheapest commercial ammo possible.
 
Recoil is not bad, however, the report is way too loud. I shot mine in the wide open outdoors without hearing protection, about 12 times, my ears rang for days afterwards.
I sold it and have no desire to ever own another one.
Imagine shooting one for protection, without hearing protection, indoors, in a house or from inside a vehicle, forget it, I'll never do it.
 
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"Take it from someone who has fired a .357 snub with 125gr federal .357B indoors without hearing protection. It left me with an unbearable ringing in my left ear for about 9 months, and now about a year later my ear still occasionally rings. "


I've fired a 357 magnum (158gr 357 mgs) indoors without hearing protection also. My ears rang for about 30 minutes. No noticeable effect afterwards. That was several years ago. And I have no noticeable hearing loss to this day.

So that whole "you'll lose your hearing if you fire a 357 indoors without hearing protection" is debatable. YMMV
 
IMO, what matters is your proficiency. If you can draw the gun and hit follow up shots without issues, it's works. I wouldn't be to concerned with things like muzzle flash and noise.
 
I have had my S&W Model 19-4 .357 since 1978 when I bought it NIB. As for the original question, it is, IMO, an excellent SD round. Is it the best choice? That's debatable. What I do know is that when I pull the trigger, it will fire and when I place one round center mass into a potential threat, that threat diminishes exponentially. The recommended two shot to center mass will drop even the biggest threat using this round.
 
I semi-remember reading a story about an undercover cop that got "made" by two drug dealers inside a car, and he had to pull out his backup to save his life. It was a short barreled .44 mag. He killed both bad guys, but he was left totally, permanently deaf from the event.
My very fuzzy memory seems to think it was Massad Ayoob telling that story in one of the gun mags, but it was a bunch of years ago.

The point is, muzzle blast is damaging, whether you perceive it or not. Auditory exclusion may keep you from "hearing" it, but the damage still happens.
 
3 of my 4 home SD revolvers are 357s-Colt Trooper, S&W M-27, Dan Wesson M-15-are .357s. The 4th is an S&W M-57.
 
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Here's my trusty Model 19-4. It's been with me since I was able to fit into the flight suit. My oldest and best loved weapon.
 
Would someone more awake than me please explain the term "Auditory Exclusion" to the folks who think firing a .357 indoors will make your head explode.

Hint: It's something that happens in a gunfight, right after you realize you are a participant.
 
"Auditory Exclusion involves a loss of hearing that occurs as part of the fight-or-flight stress response during confrontation with danger. It is a sort of filtering out of unimportant external noise so that focus is maintained on the business at hand -- survival."


..... the sound is not physically filtered out, and can still do physical damage to your hearing ..... rather, it is mentally classified by the stressed brain as unimportant .....

I have experienced it a couple of times ..... the realization you driving an unarmored explosive laden vehichle through a minefield past burning tanks and apc's will do wonders at confining your perception to the immediate task at hand.......
 
Many decades ago I drove farm tractors without a muffler (the tractor, not me).

Those were not as loud as a .357, but were continuous.

A few years ago with no hearing protection I shot a 357—once.

However, if required for SD I’d do it again (shoot the gun, not drive the tractor).

Wait! What did you say? Would you say that again?
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I'm not really concerned with the hearing damage after the event (though it's certainly a disadvantage) as much as what it would do during the actual shooting itself. Yes, you'd be more concerned with the immediate task at hand than the noise, but would the noise, combined with the blast and flash out of a 6" L frame be enough to impair follow up shots more than other calibers, such as .45 ACP?
 
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