Is 10mm slowly making a comeback?

Is 10mm slowly making a comeback?

  • Yes

    Votes: 69 50.0%

  • No

    Votes: 31 22.5%

  • It's popularity is about the same as it's always been

    Votes: 38 27.5%
  • Total voters
    138
I almost bought a para ordinance elite hunter when I saw it at my LGS--but they were asking just a tad too much for my budget. What a beautiful weapon--very well designed with all the extras built-in stock. They've since been absorbed by Remington--don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
 
Love my 10 and would give almost anything to see someone market a 10mm
M1 carbine. Can't think of a better camp gun especially with a 20rnd. magazine.
 
It has kicked up some more popularity in the past few years, that much is certain. I've owned several and loaded for the 10mm for a number of years and it's a nice cartridge.

Personally, I don't think it really does anything the .40 isn't already doing, which is why I ultimately got out of it. The 10mm does have the power advantage, but when I can take a G35 and run a 180gr XTP to 1275 fps, I don't need a G20 to run one at 1325 fps, nothing living will know the difference, plus .40 brass is basically free and cheaper to practice with too.

I can't say anything negative about it, it's got a lot going for it, but that said I don't think it's all the internet cracks it up to be.
 
Not exactly what you mentions, Brutus, but aren't there some companies making add on carbine tops to the glock 10mm platform already?
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Yes, Olympic makes an AR 10 upper (I think it's made by DTech at this point). There are various "FrankenGlock" carbine conversions out there too.
 
Wouldn't want either of them, having a Glock carbine would be like having a plastic 67 Camaro, can be done but why bother. Nope gimme a good old wooden M1 same shape, same size only in 10MM.:p
 
Wouldn't want either of them, having a Glock carbine would be like having a plastic 67 Camaro, can be done but why bother. Nope gimme a good old wooden M1 same shape, same size only in 10MM.
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Maybe--but why would anyone want to take a perfectly good 308 rifle platform and adapt it to a lower performing pistol cartridge?
 
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The aforementioned long gun would be based on the M1 "carbine", 5-1/2lbs or so with 20-rd box, substantially lighter and shorter than its full grown brother the M1 Garand rifle, at 9-1/2 lbs. I'd be curious about such a wood and steel carbine, especially if it fed from Glock mags. (since I have a bunch of those.....conflicting stance, yes). Haven't crunched any numbers regards performance of the 10mm in a carbine tube v. .30 the carbine round, but the idea sounds interesting. HOnestly, I've never fully understood why the carbine came out in .30 anyhow....but that's another post.

I am surprised that there are new 10mm pistols, and it well may be gun industry spin, but anything that puts 10mm ammo and components on the market suits me just fine. I am not a fan of the .40, as I believe the .40 asks more of the 9mm sized frames/systems, than the frames have to offer. NOte the beefing up of the SIG 9mms (milled slides) to handle the .40, increase in the dimensions for the Browning HP too. Both those lines are now beefier than their early (9mm only) relatives from the years prior .40 cal. I wonder about the longevity of the Glock .40's as well.....all Glocks now have the dual spring system, (gen 4, which gave early birthing pains) more parts and engineering, different from the simple G17 recoil spring. Remember our friend Murphy? One criticism of the early Colt Delta were they were simply upsprung 1911's, which could not handle the high pressures of the 10mm....sound familiar?

But I like the 10mm, especially the beefy, early G20's with their heavy slide and simple single coil recoil spring. There is always somebody who compares .357 to 10mm. The magnum begins to shine with longer barrels, 6" and up, but long tubed revolvers are clunky to holster and carry for prolonged periods.
There was a reason for the swivel holsters of old, when 6" service revolvers were more common.

The G20's attraction is that it delivers its performance in a flat rugged, portable package that is very simple to carry, and is reliable and shrugs off abuse. The N and L frames, in my opinion, are too big, especially with the longer, performance delivering 6" barrel, for continuos carry. Add snag gouge prone hammer spurs, damage susceptible adjustable rear sights, big wooden target grips, and I believe you move away quickly from a portable powerful pistol, to a speciality hunting rig or the like. That leaves the K frames, which can be a bit hard to shoot with all up ammo.

And of course there's the mag capacity issue, not usually needed, but nice to have.
 
But I like the 10mm, especially the beefy, early G20's with their heavy slide and simple single coil recoil spring. There is always somebody who compares .357 to 10mm. The magnum begins to shine with longer barrels, 6" and up, but long tubed revolvers are clunky to holster and carry for prolonged periods.
There was a reason for the swivel holsters of old, when 6" service revolvers were more common.

The G20's attraction is that it delivers its performance in a flat rugged, portable package that is very simple to carry, and is reliable and shrugs off abuse. The N and L frames, in my opinion, are too big, especially with the longer, performance delivering 6" barrel, for continuos carry. Add snag gouge prone hammer spurs, damage susceptible adjustable rear sights, big wooden target grips, and I believe you move away quickly from a portable powerful pistol, to a speciality hunting rig or the like. That leaves the K frames, which can be a bit hard to shoot with all up ammo.
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I know exactly what you mean : )

 
Comeback???

It never made it in the first place...it is more popular now than it ever has been.

Still a niche gun...always will be.
 
Note that the 10mm loaded down to .40 Short & Wimpy levels is for specific reasons...
Reason is: Many older 10mm's will eventually break with anything more.
Specifically, the Colt Delta Elite was succeptible to frame cracking, for one...

Secondary reason: Many shooters can't handle the recoil of full power loads, either.
Heck, after a GSSF or IPSC run with my G20-SF, I'm done shootin' pistols for the day...
and that's WITH low power loads and a rubber grip added!!
Getting old and that stuff ain't easy ;)

Trinary reason: Lower power loads add life to the pistol.
Its like shooting .22 Standard Velo instead of Hyper Velo Stingers out of a 1022, if ya get the drift?
High power loads require recoil spring replacement on a more regular basis,
buffers, guide rods, etc...the higher the power, the more often the maintenance.
Just the nature of the beast...
 
Comeback???

It never made it in the first place...it is more popular now than it ever has been.

Still a niche gun...always will be.
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Yup--just like the 41 mag--which is also an "undiscovered prince of ballistics." I have most of the other handgun calibers--but the 40's are my favorite in terms of the right blend of shooting performance and stopping power.
 
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