Ridgerunner665
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If you can stand being married to more than 1 woman...you deserve to wear the pants.Women is plural...meaning more than 1 woman
I'm going to buy a gun. I don't care what the wife says
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If you can stand being married to more than 1 woman...you deserve to wear the pants.Women is plural...meaning more than 1 woman
RockRiverWhisper
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Sorry roadrunner, mis the target again. Think I will ask my wife if I Can buy new glasses. But witch one should I ask??
jimmythegeek
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The penalty for bigamy in WA is severe...
...two wives!
...two wives!
RockRiverWhisper
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The op has a lot more going for him than I do. I have not got the nuts to put my $$$$ out in front of yall like that. (yall) as in you all.
RockRiverWhisper
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In MS it is just twice the money.
Ridgerunner665
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Sorry Rock...that was just too good to pass up
RockRiverWhisper
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Its all in a day laugh got to love it
he already is in that boat. he sleeps in the girls room
just buy the gun and you might upgrade to the couch
id bolt a holster to the back of the headboard of my daughters bed (luckily i don't have to sleep there)and have it against the wall for easy access and no one would know its there.
When I and my wife married almost 10 years ago, I already had guns. She really didn't care for them, but she knew it was who I was, and slowly over the years she has somewhat come to embrace me having guns. My daughter is now 9 and I just bought her a 10/22 and she loves it, and my wife even encourages us to go shooting, so things can change over time.
But now, my idea, get something along the lines of a Ruger SR series or whatever brand of your choosing that has a magazine disconnect. As long as the mag is out, the gun is basically dead. Show your wife the pencil trick, put a pencil in the barrel with the mag out (no round in the chamber please) and pull the trigger, the pencil doesn't move. Now, put an empty mag in the gun and pull the trigger and the pencil comes flying out. You could show her that as long as you have control of the mag, the gun is basically dead without it, so that even if one of the little ones got a hold of the gun, they couldn't fire it.
Just my .02, YMMV
But now, my idea, get something along the lines of a Ruger SR series or whatever brand of your choosing that has a magazine disconnect. As long as the mag is out, the gun is basically dead. Show your wife the pencil trick, put a pencil in the barrel with the mag out (no round in the chamber please) and pull the trigger, the pencil doesn't move. Now, put an empty mag in the gun and pull the trigger and the pencil comes flying out. You could show her that as long as you have control of the mag, the gun is basically dead without it, so that even if one of the little ones got a hold of the gun, they couldn't fire it.
Just my .02, YMMV
Get a drawer safe. They start at around $40 on sale. Good idea no matter what age your kids are (kids have friends, ect). I keep one gun for protection, the rest are locked in my gun case. If it's not on me, it's in the safe.
As far as the title on the post, I would work on at least reaching some sort of agreement before buying the gun. Your wife doesn't have to like having a gun but she does at least need to accept it. I started with a .22 rifle for use at the range. If there's one gun (just a small .22 is usually easy to break ground with) and she sees it's stored properly and safely, then it's easier to justify more. My 2nd gun was a .22 pistol and now, well, they're sort of like rabbits ...
Ask her what will SHE do if some guy is in the yard trying to grab one of the kids and you are not home.
Guns -when the police are just minutes away.
I suggest you get a gun she can use too and a pistol safe that she can have the combination too-drill together in using it to protect the kids.
Sadly,Child abduction is no longer some bad paranoid fantasy anymore -when you have kids,you have to act like they are something a sicko wants to steal for their own gruesome ends.
You have to adopt protection strategies like watching the people that try to interact around your kids especially anyone and I mean anyone who is extra helpful right out of the blue and tries to be physically close to your kids with you not present.
You have to get a fence around your property to define where people not from your neighborhood can go.
None of this-"I was just walking through your yard as a cut through" when you come out and the guy is talking to your kid.
Talk to the kids to tell them -you don't talk to strangers-if need be,you run away and to Mommy or Daddy.
So the idea you can just 'nice' your way through life does'nt cut it.
There's alot of 'not nice' people out there and one of the key things they are looking for is children to abuse-and there's a solution for that-primarily planning but if need be armed defense at a moments notice too.
Your kids are depending on you.
Will you be holding a phone as the bad guy drives away with your kid?
Or will you be calling the police to report someone tried to get your kid and he needs to be arrested and go to the hospital?
Your choice-FOR NOW.
Guns -when the police are just minutes away.
I suggest you get a gun she can use too and a pistol safe that she can have the combination too-drill together in using it to protect the kids.
Sadly,Child abduction is no longer some bad paranoid fantasy anymore -when you have kids,you have to act like they are something a sicko wants to steal for their own gruesome ends.
You have to adopt protection strategies like watching the people that try to interact around your kids especially anyone and I mean anyone who is extra helpful right out of the blue and tries to be physically close to your kids with you not present.
You have to get a fence around your property to define where people not from your neighborhood can go.
None of this-"I was just walking through your yard as a cut through" when you come out and the guy is talking to your kid.
Talk to the kids to tell them -you don't talk to strangers-if need be,you run away and to Mommy or Daddy.
So the idea you can just 'nice' your way through life does'nt cut it.
There's alot of 'not nice' people out there and one of the key things they are looking for is children to abuse-and there's a solution for that-primarily planning but if need be armed defense at a moments notice too.
Your kids are depending on you.
Will you be holding a phone as the bad guy drives away with your kid?
Or will you be calling the police to report someone tried to get your kid and he needs to be arrested and go to the hospital?
Your choice-FOR NOW.
g.willikers
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One question, please:
Never mind the gun question, but
If your daughter sleeps with your wife and you sleep in your daughter's room, where did those four kids come from?
Never mind the gun question, but
If your daughter sleeps with your wife and you sleep in your daughter's room, where did those four kids come from?
bitttorrrent
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Oh leave him alone lol- 4 kids can produce some strange sleeping patterns. I have oft found myself sleeping in my toddler son's lower bunk, while wife and he sleep in big bed and daughter also above me in top bunk.
It all works out.
But I do know the wife/gun issue. She has known from the start (1st time over at parents she was in the basement shooting wax bullets) but I have not been into it for a long time until now. It is the kids issue with her - afraid they will blow their heads off if they find one laying around. My 9yr old knows what guns are and has respect. Toddler - no. So they must be kept from him.
I had them on top of cabinet for a while and just got a safe but don't have easy access. Wife still freaks and went ballistic when I brought home a new 9mm. Had to move it to Dad's house for a while until had a safe. She is getting better with it now, so you have to go slow.
But as in other posts, I remind her that it is up to me to protect if there is something wrong. It is up to me to protect the lives of a 9 yr old girl and 2.5 yr old boy. Even though I am 200 lb 6ft guy who is pretty strong - without a gun I am nobody.
When we were all scared back around 9/11, I remember she was scared - scared of what I don't know but just scared. She said you are the man of this house - "you do whatever it takes to protect this family - whatever it takes". And in that frame of mind it means to me having a gun in close proximity.
It all works out.
But I do know the wife/gun issue. She has known from the start (1st time over at parents she was in the basement shooting wax bullets) but I have not been into it for a long time until now. It is the kids issue with her - afraid they will blow their heads off if they find one laying around. My 9yr old knows what guns are and has respect. Toddler - no. So they must be kept from him.
I had them on top of cabinet for a while and just got a safe but don't have easy access. Wife still freaks and went ballistic when I brought home a new 9mm. Had to move it to Dad's house for a while until had a safe. She is getting better with it now, so you have to go slow.
But as in other posts, I remind her that it is up to me to protect if there is something wrong. It is up to me to protect the lives of a 9 yr old girl and 2.5 yr old boy. Even though I am 200 lb 6ft guy who is pretty strong - without a gun I am nobody.
When we were all scared back around 9/11, I remember she was scared - scared of what I don't know but just scared. She said you are the man of this house - "you do whatever it takes to protect this family - whatever it takes". And in that frame of mind it means to me having a gun in close proximity.
I'll chime in. Of course these are just opinions.
I think it is a great idea too to come to some sort of resolution/understanding with the wife. Perhaps she doesn't know the vulnerability/powerlessness you felt when a drunk man had full access to the house/family while most were asleep. If a drunk man could navigate the house how about someone with a mission? Trying to debate/teaching wives may not always work but they do respond to sharing as equals sometimes. (I am still learning this) Whether or not you feel the need for permission is a gray area unique to your marriage. We don't tell someone/ask for permission when we buy them gifts or surprises do we? (if the handgun/protection is solely for them) But at the same time everyone hates being ignored and she may feel betrayed.
If things go the way you hope: I don't use trigger locks yet but a safe with lock/key or trigger lock/key may still be a viable solution of you don't want to go biometric/punch code. To speed things up dramatically (possibly faster than the key code) you can leave the key on your key chain inside the keyhole at night. If the need arises just a twist and you're good. If you need to go somewhere without the firearm you will not leave the key in as you will take the keychain with you. Another choice is to only purchase a gun you will carry with you so that the firearm is not left unattended in the house during the day - if that seems to be a concern.
If things don't go the way you hope / regardless I would suggest making the shotgun a bit more accessible to you and your wife and putting a trigger lock on it and use the key-already-in-the-hole trick if you feel you need to. You could also keep the chamber empty to negate the risk of a bump fire. A shotgun is actually celebrated by many to be THE ULTIMATE Home Defense gun and if your wife is already comfortable with it maybe some thought into making it more accessible safely might do well.
Lastly, it sounds like you all would benefit from passive measures to your house - or if you have them you could use them more often. Deadbolts/ sliding locks, door chimes/bells (like at store entrances), motion sensitive lights. Those motion sensors are more readily available than I thought and you can find them at wallmart. They have adapters that screw into light bulb sockets, or simple/cheap battery powered units that you can place wherever you please. This may be good/convenient for the kids and the wife too to prevent bumping into things at night and that way anyone approaching the bedrooms would be backlit for better ID
Hope it goes well.
I think it is a great idea too to come to some sort of resolution/understanding with the wife. Perhaps she doesn't know the vulnerability/powerlessness you felt when a drunk man had full access to the house/family while most were asleep. If a drunk man could navigate the house how about someone with a mission? Trying to debate/teaching wives may not always work but they do respond to sharing as equals sometimes. (I am still learning this) Whether or not you feel the need for permission is a gray area unique to your marriage. We don't tell someone/ask for permission when we buy them gifts or surprises do we? (if the handgun/protection is solely for them) But at the same time everyone hates being ignored and she may feel betrayed.
If things go the way you hope: I don't use trigger locks yet but a safe with lock/key or trigger lock/key may still be a viable solution of you don't want to go biometric/punch code. To speed things up dramatically (possibly faster than the key code) you can leave the key on your key chain inside the keyhole at night. If the need arises just a twist and you're good. If you need to go somewhere without the firearm you will not leave the key in as you will take the keychain with you. Another choice is to only purchase a gun you will carry with you so that the firearm is not left unattended in the house during the day - if that seems to be a concern.
If things don't go the way you hope / regardless I would suggest making the shotgun a bit more accessible to you and your wife and putting a trigger lock on it and use the key-already-in-the-hole trick if you feel you need to. You could also keep the chamber empty to negate the risk of a bump fire. A shotgun is actually celebrated by many to be THE ULTIMATE Home Defense gun and if your wife is already comfortable with it maybe some thought into making it more accessible safely might do well.
Lastly, it sounds like you all would benefit from passive measures to your house - or if you have them you could use them more often. Deadbolts/ sliding locks, door chimes/bells (like at store entrances), motion sensitive lights. Those motion sensors are more readily available than I thought and you can find them at wallmart. They have adapters that screw into light bulb sockets, or simple/cheap battery powered units that you can place wherever you please. This may be good/convenient for the kids and the wife too to prevent bumping into things at night and that way anyone approaching the bedrooms would be backlit for better ID
Hope it goes well.
Sbowling79
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Thanks for all the advice. Just to clear things up. I'm not sleeping in another room because of marital problems. There are a few reasons.
1. My wife snores. LOUD.
2. She gets up 3 hours befor I do.
3. I used to have a job traveling a lot and she only felt our kids were safe when I was gone if they were in the bed with her. My daughter just kind of stayed.
Although I wasn't posting here for advice on discussing the gun with my wife some of it helped. I was originally looking for ideas on keeping the gun out of my kids hands. And out of a one of their friends hands. It seems every weekend we have a at least one extra child.
I did discuss it with her and the steps I would take to make it safe and she no longer has a problem. Her Only concern now is me spending money that should be spent for Christmas gifts.
I have taken steps since the late night visit to ensure our safety. I have a security system installed. I double check each lock every night and there is dead bolts on all of them. There are lights left on in the front and rear of the house at night and I installed motion lights also. I also know for sure the same guy won't be coming back again since he is now in prison for killing 2 people while driving drunk.
Maybe I came off the wrong way with the title to my post. But I've always bought things without her permission. Boats, jeeps ,4 wheelers etc.
Thanks for all the help.
1. My wife snores. LOUD.
2. She gets up 3 hours befor I do.
3. I used to have a job traveling a lot and she only felt our kids were safe when I was gone if they were in the bed with her. My daughter just kind of stayed.
Although I wasn't posting here for advice on discussing the gun with my wife some of it helped. I was originally looking for ideas on keeping the gun out of my kids hands. And out of a one of their friends hands. It seems every weekend we have a at least one extra child.
I did discuss it with her and the steps I would take to make it safe and she no longer has a problem. Her Only concern now is me spending money that should be spent for Christmas gifts.
I have taken steps since the late night visit to ensure our safety. I have a security system installed. I double check each lock every night and there is dead bolts on all of them. There are lights left on in the front and rear of the house at night and I installed motion lights also. I also know for sure the same guy won't be coming back again since he is now in prison for killing 2 people while driving drunk.
Maybe I came off the wrong way with the title to my post. But I've always bought things without her permission. Boats, jeeps ,4 wheelers etc.
Thanks for all the help.