I'm going to buy a gun. I don't care what the wife says

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Sbowling79

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So I have been arguing with my wife a few years about buying a gun. I grew up shooting and served three years army so I know how to properly and safely shoot. Her problem is with our children. We have 4 from 9 mo. To 9 years old. She is concerned one of them could get a hold of it. I will buy a gun safe but I want to have at least one readily available. To make things worse our daughter sleeps in the bed with her and I sleep in my daughters room. So there is really no drawer for me to keep one in and not have to worry about one of the kids finding it. Is there something I could do so that I could access and use a gun quickly after just waking up that my kids couldn't figure out? I'm not to concerned with the oldest. I have taken him shooting with his grandpa and believe I've taught him the respect a firearm deserves.
 
All I can say is " If Mama isn't happy, nobody's happy".
There are lockable gun box's that go on the bed frame, with a code.
Talk it over, you are adult's, right?:eek:
 
It's difficult with children. In my opinion, you should get one of those biometric pistol safes and just put under your bed or bedside table or something. Slide your fingers over it and you're good to go. Not sure on the prices of those. Aside from a pin-number locked safe, the only thing I can recommend is to put it up high somewhere, that they can't reach or dislodge it from by shaking/climbing/etc.
 
+1^.

Those biometric safes are not cheap by any means, but for keeping kids out of it, as well as having quick access for yourself, I can't think of anything better. It reads your fingerprint to open, so fast and nearly foolproof. I think they have a code/combination as well, but just keep that away from the kids and you should be fine. Of course as soon as they're old enough, I say teach them to respect firearms for what they are, but that is a whole 'nother discussion.
 
remember that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar...

I salute your resolve, but please reconsider your approach. Convince the wife that you are equally (if not more) concerned with the safety of your family, and then prove it with your actions. Hear her concerns, and be willing to address them.

There are a number of small gun safes that will open with a combination. There are also some that operate on biometrics (programmed to recognize your fingerprint).

Not all that expensive, smaller than a shoebox, bolt it to underside of the nightstand.

Carry the handgun on your person while awake, put it in the mini-safe within arm's reach when going to sleep.
 
I Meant to write handgun not gun. I have a shotgun in the master closet way up high where they can't get to it but I found out one night I couldn't get to it either. One night a stupid drunk friend decided it would be funny to come into my house while were all asleep. I heard the garage door open. (forgot to lock it) then I heard my kitchen door open and someone making their way thru my house. That's when I really wanted a gun close to me. Not in another bedroom closet buried in the top shelf. So as I heard the footsteps coming down the hallway I stood at the door trying to figure out what to do. When he got by the door I opened it and jumped on him. We went thru the bathroom door and on to the floor. I nearly knocked myself out on the bath tub. Then I realized who it was. He was not so politely told to never come to my house again. The next day I had a security system installed. I'm going to buy a handgun and get a ccw and carry all the time. Just need that easy access child proof place for when I sleep or when I'm lounging around the house in my underwear.

Is their a holster made that's like the police use that's hard to get out if you don't know how that I could leave it in and then easily conceal when I wear it. Like a iwb holster. I think that would be the trick
 
We'll my friend. With four on the floor you are in the "cheaper to keeper" stage. Its best to work it out amicably. Some are a little more stubborn than others. However, you don't want a moment when she wishes you could have protected your family. It only takes one time for a lifetime of regret.

I have to say my wife wasn't so hot on me getting a concealed pistol license until one time we were in a potentially bad situation and she whispered "do you have a gun on you?"
She couldn't give approval because she would lose the discussion, enter a lifestyle that went against how she was raised, and finally relinquish the fact that she was not in control of her destiny.

She is a strong women and by strong I mean pig-headed like her father. In her mind if I wore a gun someone could get shot. It was as if she thought they had a mind of their own and go off randomly. This goes back to her guns are bad childhood. I reminded her that if I didn't wear a gun someone could get shot and i wanted to make sure it wasn't one of my family.

Find out what her fears are and work through them. Fear has a way of blocking out any ability to reason. Good luck and check back with your progress.
 
It's a strange situation for sure. I was raised around guns and learned to respect them at a young age. She was raised by her mom who divorced 4 times before my wife graduated high school. So there is no telling what has happened to make her not like guns. I'll find a solution. Thanks for the help
 
I've been in your boat and discussed biometric boxes (seemed sensible) and other options. Lost the argument. Until the kids got older the guns all lived in the big safe unless I was wearing one.

This cost me a fair amount though, as my 'compromise' was to harden the house's passive defenses to give myself peace of mind. And trust me, hardening a ranch style home costs a lot of money...

Still, it was worth it. :)
 
Those biometric safes are not cheap by any means, but for keeping kids out of it, as well as having quick access for yourself, I can't think of anything better. It reads your fingerprint to open, so fast and nearly foolproof.
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They aren't entirely fool proof. If you have a skin condition on your hands (my wife has eczema on her fingers), the biometric reader can't distinguish a finger print reliably.

I have a son who is 5 now. I got a Gunvault when he turned 1 and keep it at my bedside each night. I practice the combination frequently and can open the safe in about a second. I especially like the spring loaded door that flies open with ease. During the day I have a gun on my hip.

I've also been working with my son since he turned 3. At first I taught him to simply not touch it, just as I did with knives or other potentially dangerous objects around the house. Now I'm explaining more about the 4 rules, etc.

Gun proofing your home is one thing, gun proofing the child is even better, as it sounds like you well know.
 
I understand that some people would not consider this approach for a variety of reasons, but it has served me very well...

The headboard of my bed is only about 3 1/2 feet from a corner of 2 walls in my bedroom. I am by no means a woodworker or skilled in carpentry, but I have removed the stapling from the carpet in that corner. I took a JigSaw and cut out a 10" X 10" section of the flooring beneath. There is sub-flooring a few inches below the section I cut out, so I laid my handgun in the recessed area. I drilled a tiny hole through the original piece of flooring I used and thru the bottom, attached a tiny pc. of fishing line (b/c of it's inherent strength) and tied it to a spare key chain ring. I placed the original flooring directly where it had been prior to cutting it out. And it is supported (to ensure it does not become misaligned and fall down) by a couple makeshift stubs of 2X4 I placed in the hole with my weapon. Therefore, when the top piece of flooring was placed back in its' original position, and after the carpeting was laid back on top, you cannot tell anything has been done at all. I have a bed side table adjacent to the bed, preventing anyone from stepping on the exact spot I have the weapon hidden at. But due to the studs I placed inside, even if I try to step on the area, it feels just as secure as walking on the floor beside it that is 100% intact.

Unless someone tries to get down and lift that 1 section of carpeting up, you cannot see or feel any difference in the flooring at all. The best part of this is that it only takes me about 5 seconds to jump out of bed, (even in the dark) lift up the area of carpeting, pull on the ring/fishing line to pull up the 10 x 10 in. pc. of flooring, and remove the weapon for immediate use.


As long as you keep methods like this one to yourself (or just you and your spouse), you should have no worries about anyone else accidentally running across your handiwork.

I hope this helps. (Just be careful if you decide to go with some of those safes that require entering a pin number. I wouldn't want people busting into my house hearing me entering in the "Beep Beep Beep Beep" pin or seeing a light come on in my room so I could see the pin). They might hear me roll out of bed quickly, but within a couple seconds they will hear a loud ass boom to go with it. :)
 
I like the in floor idea. Wouldn't work for me because I have laminate hardwood floor. But I think I could hide one in the air duct. The register pops up fairly easy. Maybe could tie some fishing line on and slide it down out of site.
 
What has happened to today's life? My grandfather had guns out, my father had guns out, I had guns out. But we all tout our children to respect and leave them alone. What gives??????????
 
I need to put a couple hinges on the piece that I pop up with the fishing line, just haven't gotten around to it yet. The air duct is a pretty good idea as well, just wouldn't leave it in there for too terribly long (so as oil is not dried out).
 
Yea, that's the thing. It happened to me like that too. She was no no no no no for a long while and one day she looks over and says you do have your gun, right?

...and you better have it. I did. they will hand control over in an instant if they get scared and you can't let them down. Most women are living with the white picket fence syndrome and it's my honor to play along as much as possible and let her live the good life. It's a house of cards though and they know it, so don't ever count on the excuse she wouldn't let me buy one to work. She'll laugh and say hey daddy protect us now your in charge.

So...save up your lunch money is what I did.
 
RockRiver....I feel where you are coming from. I will teach my son respect for weapons and firearms in general and hope like crazy that he matures as I did, with a deep respect for them. But I look at it this way...no matter how well trained children (and even some adults :) ) are, they can't have accidents with weapons that they do not have access to. I would love to leave my guns out on or in the beside table...but I have a sinking feeling that once I do that, some idiot or a$$hole is going to come along and play with something that has no damn business being played with.

It is a shame that we need to secure our weapons, but I would rather it be a little bit of a nuisance than to have any type of accident happen with one of my firearms.

But...as for what you were saying...the good ol' days when we didn't have to put them up...well, I think humans might have been a pinch smarter back then. I also think they had more respect back then. Just my opinion...have a wonderful evening sir.
 
My father had a lot of respect from us children. 90% of respect is fear of what would happen if you did not respect him. The same way it is with every thing that you dont do when you are young.
 
My dads guns are not locked up and she never says anything about when the kids stay there. They never bother them there. I guess I'll bring that up to my wife. As a kid I knew not to touch them unless he handed it to me.
 
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