Illegal Aliens: Misc. News Stories
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That is all I have to say. :barf:
That is all I have to say. :barf:
How about implantable microchips?
Report: Colombian President Would Consider Immigrant Tracking With Microchips
Thursday, May 04, 2006
BOGOTA, Colombia ? Comments attributed to Colombia's president that microchip implants could be used to track Colombians working temporarily in the U.S. drew attention ? and criticism ? Thursday.
The alleged statement by President Alfaro Uribe dismayed some Colombians after it appeared in Colombian newspapers.
"It would be a blatant violation of human rights," said Jorge Pinilla, 50, a lawyer in Bogota.
Details of Uribe's conversation last month with U.S. lawmakers were revealed by Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania in a report he read into the congressional record last week.
Specter and Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama met with Uribe, the United States' staunchest ally in Latin America, during their visit to Colombia on April 7-9.
During the informal meeting, Specter expressed concerns about seasonal workers who immigrate to the United States to work temporarily on farms and then don't return to their country once their visa has elapsed.
"President Uribe said he would consider having Colombian workers have microchips implanted into their bodies before they are permitted to enter the United States to work on a seasonal basis," said Specter in a speech entered to the Congressional record April 25. "I doubted whether the implantation of microchips would be effective since the immigrant worker might be able to remove them."
Uribe on Thursday refused to say whether he proposed microchip implants, acknowledging only that he encouraged the senators to replace "draconian" immigration laws with a temporary work program that treats Colombian workers humanely, like one the country already shares with Spain and Canada.
"If the United States, with all its technology, computers and chips, doesn't have the means to know who enters or leaves the country then where are we?" he said during an interview on City TV.
The offices of Specter and Sessions did not return calls seeking comment on their meeting with Uribe.
Uribe's alleged comments, which dominated the airwaves Thursday, were unpopular with some Colombians.
"If the United States wants to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country, they should find a better way than treating humans like animals," said Diana Lozano, an architecture student.
Using microchips the size of a grain of rice to track the movement of cattle is nothing new. There has been some marketing of the microchips for human use as a way to control access to secure areas and keep tabs on some criminals, but not for immigration.
"It sounds rather Orwellian," said John Keeley, spokesman for the Center for Immigrations Studies in Washington. "In a Star Trek-kind of future, 20-40 years down the road, we might need to consider this, but it's not germane to the contemporary immigration debate."
An estimated 1.5 million Colombians live in the United States and scores more have considered migrating north to escape economic hardship or the country's four-decade civil war.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194337,00.html
Report: Colombian President Would Consider Immigrant Tracking With Microchips
Thursday, May 04, 2006
BOGOTA, Colombia ? Comments attributed to Colombia's president that microchip implants could be used to track Colombians working temporarily in the U.S. drew attention ? and criticism ? Thursday.
The alleged statement by President Alfaro Uribe dismayed some Colombians after it appeared in Colombian newspapers.
"It would be a blatant violation of human rights," said Jorge Pinilla, 50, a lawyer in Bogota.
Details of Uribe's conversation last month with U.S. lawmakers were revealed by Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania in a report he read into the congressional record last week.
Specter and Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama met with Uribe, the United States' staunchest ally in Latin America, during their visit to Colombia on April 7-9.
During the informal meeting, Specter expressed concerns about seasonal workers who immigrate to the United States to work temporarily on farms and then don't return to their country once their visa has elapsed.
"President Uribe said he would consider having Colombian workers have microchips implanted into their bodies before they are permitted to enter the United States to work on a seasonal basis," said Specter in a speech entered to the Congressional record April 25. "I doubted whether the implantation of microchips would be effective since the immigrant worker might be able to remove them."
Uribe on Thursday refused to say whether he proposed microchip implants, acknowledging only that he encouraged the senators to replace "draconian" immigration laws with a temporary work program that treats Colombian workers humanely, like one the country already shares with Spain and Canada.
"If the United States, with all its technology, computers and chips, doesn't have the means to know who enters or leaves the country then where are we?" he said during an interview on City TV.
The offices of Specter and Sessions did not return calls seeking comment on their meeting with Uribe.
Uribe's alleged comments, which dominated the airwaves Thursday, were unpopular with some Colombians.
"If the United States wants to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country, they should find a better way than treating humans like animals," said Diana Lozano, an architecture student.
Using microchips the size of a grain of rice to track the movement of cattle is nothing new. There has been some marketing of the microchips for human use as a way to control access to secure areas and keep tabs on some criminals, but not for immigration.
"It sounds rather Orwellian," said John Keeley, spokesman for the Center for Immigrations Studies in Washington. "In a Star Trek-kind of future, 20-40 years down the road, we might need to consider this, but it's not germane to the contemporary immigration debate."
An estimated 1.5 million Colombians live in the United States and scores more have considered migrating north to escape economic hardship or the country's four-decade civil war.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194337,00.html
Scott Conklin
New member
Yeah, we're definitely combatting those Illegals...
U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
By Sara A. Carter, Staff Writer
While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.
According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.
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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
By Sara A. Carter, Staff Writer
While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.
According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.
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steelheart
Moderator
Teddy Roosevelt had it right
Amen, Teddy. Amen.
Whats it is meant to do is notify the drug cartels and others who might perpetrate violence that getting the Minutemen being shot at by cartel members or the federales working for them while the media is watching is not a good thing. The Mexican Drug Cartels avoid the media and even threaten media members.
Varmint Eviscerator
New member
:barf: 
-stupid-if it was their land, which mexico is already, then why dont they want to go back to their land, OHHHHH, maybe they failed to SEE that the only reason that this country is not a SH** pit like the mexico is because we made it hospitable, civilized and lucrative to be here!Sorry, very tempermental over this.... they woulda been throwing rocks at each other today-we had armor and firearms and a bow an arrow was new technology to them
Chase
delete it admin-I will not recind what I have said or mean!!
Its easy for us to say for them to go back. If your family were hungry or starving you might do things you usually wouldnt do. Its easy for us to condem others when we are fat and happy. Not to say that they shouldnt be charged with breaking the law and sent back. I do understand some of thems plight. I remember a trip we took to Monterey, Mexico back when I was in the 9th Grade. We stayed at a Ramada Inn up on a hill close by there was a cardboard shanty town. Recently when I was deployed overseas I got to see poverty close up and it wasnt a pretty sight. At our forward location in Mez there was an Afghan who emptied out the portable johns by hand for $2.00 a day. We are pretty damn lucky to live in America.
In the old days folks used to help thier neighbors out... For better or worse they are our neighbors. We just need to come up with a working solution that benefits the people and not the politicians.
In the old days folks used to help thier neighbors out... For better or worse they are our neighbors. We just need to come up with a working solution that benefits the people and not the politicians.
US Govt tells Mex of Minuteman strength and deployment
Yesterday, 05/09/06: ((Go to www.minutemancivildefensecorps for full stories))
U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
Sara Carter, a reporter with the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, reports today that she found documentation on Mexican government websites that show higher ups in the United States Border Patrol have been tipping off the corrupt Mexican government as to the locations of the Minutemen along the border.
This article does not report information told to the MCDC media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massaschusetts and Tennessee. Perhaps a follow-up story is forthcoming or an over zealous editor removed the information?
Portions of a report distributed last August to the Mexican government from Border Patrol bureaucrats read over the phone to the MCDC media offices contained not only numbers (estimates of membership) of Minutemen in Illinois, but a statement on their activities and that they didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating that the Illinois Minutemen didn't yet have any political clout.
That is not a report on the location of Minutemen at the border, but political intelligence from our government to a foreign nation about the activities of American citizens petitioning our own government for redress of grievances.
The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps media offices will contact the reporter to inquire about copies of the documents and the timing on a follow-up story with the reports to the Mexican Government of activities of Minutemen in INTERIOR states, as if reports of our locations in the border states weren't bad enough.
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Reports to Mexican government on Minutemen not only in border states
Widespread reports yesterday of the U.S. Border Patrol reporting locations of Minuteman activies along the border have now broadened in scope. The reports obtained from the Mexican government include an August 2005 document, "Third Report on the Activities of Vigilantes" -- posted on Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site -- suggest U.S. officials were giving out more details than required by the Vienna Convention. Part of that information included reports on activities in the interior United States in locations such as Illinois, Nevada, Utah, Massachusetts and Tennessee.
The Department of Homeland Security in a statement is now officially denying any such activity took place giving no explanation why the Border Patrol confirmed the report earlier in the day.
In the initial report yesterday from the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, Border Patrol spokesman Mario Martinez confirmed the activity saying Mexico's official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, a belief the Border Patrol hoped to allay by entering into the cooperative agreement.
According to reports in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin today, the Department of Homeland Security would not elaborate in their statement to give any broader explanation.
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The BP officials give out info on AMERICANS to a corrupt foreign government .. what the hell is going on here?
There is already information from the FBI and other intel available that indicates the MS-13 are in early planning stages to attack BP agents, their families and local border LEO and families. Texas border sheriffs have cally stated in the media that we are in a war and Washington refuses to acknowledge same.
In as much as the Minuteman volunteers are AMERICANS working to defend US Borders, a job function found in the the description of Bush/Cheney employment contract ... under the words "To Protect and Defend" .... BUT they obviously refuse to do, I have a one word description of their failure.
.................................Treason.
Over 50 years ago, I took that same oath ... for me it still holds, it did not fade when I took the uniform off.
Yesterday, 05/09/06: ((Go to www.minutemancivildefensecorps for full stories))
U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols
Sara Carter, a reporter with the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, reports today that she found documentation on Mexican government websites that show higher ups in the United States Border Patrol have been tipping off the corrupt Mexican government as to the locations of the Minutemen along the border.
This article does not report information told to the MCDC media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massaschusetts and Tennessee. Perhaps a follow-up story is forthcoming or an over zealous editor removed the information?
Portions of a report distributed last August to the Mexican government from Border Patrol bureaucrats read over the phone to the MCDC media offices contained not only numbers (estimates of membership) of Minutemen in Illinois, but a statement on their activities and that they didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating that the Illinois Minutemen didn't yet have any political clout.
That is not a report on the location of Minutemen at the border, but political intelligence from our government to a foreign nation about the activities of American citizens petitioning our own government for redress of grievances.
The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps media offices will contact the reporter to inquire about copies of the documents and the timing on a follow-up story with the reports to the Mexican Government of activities of Minutemen in INTERIOR states, as if reports of our locations in the border states weren't bad enough.
>>>>>>>>>
Reports to Mexican government on Minutemen not only in border states
Widespread reports yesterday of the U.S. Border Patrol reporting locations of Minuteman activies along the border have now broadened in scope. The reports obtained from the Mexican government include an August 2005 document, "Third Report on the Activities of Vigilantes" -- posted on Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site -- suggest U.S. officials were giving out more details than required by the Vienna Convention. Part of that information included reports on activities in the interior United States in locations such as Illinois, Nevada, Utah, Massachusetts and Tennessee.
The Department of Homeland Security in a statement is now officially denying any such activity took place giving no explanation why the Border Patrol confirmed the report earlier in the day.
In the initial report yesterday from the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, Border Patrol spokesman Mario Martinez confirmed the activity saying Mexico's official perception of the civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, a belief the Border Patrol hoped to allay by entering into the cooperative agreement.
According to reports in the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin today, the Department of Homeland Security would not elaborate in their statement to give any broader explanation.
**************** Personal Comments and Opinion ********
The BP officials give out info on AMERICANS to a corrupt foreign government .. what the hell is going on here?
There is already information from the FBI and other intel available that indicates the MS-13 are in early planning stages to attack BP agents, their families and local border LEO and families. Texas border sheriffs have cally stated in the media that we are in a war and Washington refuses to acknowledge same.
In as much as the Minuteman volunteers are AMERICANS working to defend US Borders, a job function found in the the description of Bush/Cheney employment contract ... under the words "To Protect and Defend" .... BUT they obviously refuse to do, I have a one word description of their failure.
.................................Treason.
Over 50 years ago, I took that same oath ... for me it still holds, it did not fade when I took the uniform off.
steelheart
Moderator
Gee, it almost sounds as if "The Government" is aiding and abetting the enemy...:barf:
If you follow this insane course of action to its logical conclusion, it could very easily degenerate into a border war, martial law and gun confiscation - just what "The Government" would love to have.
If you follow this insane course of action to its logical conclusion, it could very easily degenerate into a border war, martial law and gun confiscation - just what "The Government" would love to have.
1) The posted link does not work.
2) The government of Mexico is not an official enemy of the government of the United States, therefore statements about "aiding and abetting" are invalid.
3) Whether or not a border war is a likely outcome of the allegedly "insane course of action," no evidence indicates that the "Government" (presumably that of the United States) actively desires such a conflict.
Regardless of the veracity of the initial post, the subsequent post is nothing more than trite flamebait. So, without further delay, :barf:
2) The government of Mexico is not an official enemy of the government of the United States, therefore statements about "aiding and abetting" are invalid.
3) Whether or not a border war is a likely outcome of the allegedly "insane course of action," no evidence indicates that the "Government" (presumably that of the United States) actively desires such a conflict.
Regardless of the veracity of the initial post, the subsequent post is nothing more than trite flamebait. So, without further delay, :barf:
The US government is far more likely to help out the corrupt Mexican government than they are US citizens.All US politicians can see is a huge future voting block that they can kiss up to now.American citizens can go to hell as far as the US government is concerned.I hope it leads to a second American civil war.This country needs to go the way of the USSR.Sad but true.Im already looking at land in North & South Dakota as well as Wyoming and Montana.
steelheart
Moderator
Thank you Leif, for sharing the leftist/Democrat/socialist perspective, as you always do.:barf:
Mexico may not be the official enemy of the U.S Government, but it sure as hell is the enemy of We The People. If it is not stopped, unchecked illegal immigration will destroy this nation, plain and simple.
As far as martial law and gun confiscation, if you think these two concepts do not cause politicians and bureaucrats of "The Government" to spontaneously orgasm, you are blind. Gun confiscation is the holy grail of the powermongering politician - it always has been and always will be.
"The Government" has layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of plans for the execution of martial law - that is common knowledge and cannot be denied. Gun confiscation is part and parcel of those plans; you cannot have an effective martial law with an armed citizenry.
It is obvious that denial of the reality of the situation works just fine within the confines of your cranium; in the real world, your denial just doesn't stand up under the weight of reality.
Mexico may not be the official enemy of the U.S Government, but it sure as hell is the enemy of We The People. If it is not stopped, unchecked illegal immigration will destroy this nation, plain and simple.
As far as martial law and gun confiscation, if you think these two concepts do not cause politicians and bureaucrats of "The Government" to spontaneously orgasm, you are blind. Gun confiscation is the holy grail of the powermongering politician - it always has been and always will be.
"The Government" has layer upon layer upon layer upon layer of plans for the execution of martial law - that is common knowledge and cannot be denied. Gun confiscation is part and parcel of those plans; you cannot have an effective martial law with an armed citizenry.
It is obvious that denial of the reality of the situation works just fine within the confines of your cranium; in the real world, your denial just doesn't stand up under the weight of reality.
I rest my case.
As per martial law and gun confiscation, that's a pretty big jump from the issue of illegal immigration. Citations and sources connecting the two issues, please? Or are you relying on that old Franks/Cigar Afficionado interview again, which BTW has nothing to do with illegal immigration and only remotely to do with the actual or likely implementation of martial law in the US?
Scott Conklin
New member
It's funny how lefties panic and try to cover up the truth once it gets out.
The Minutemen are moving forward, and thankfully to news sources that love this country, freedom, and the truth! They must be having heart failure at CNN and the NYT.
The Anti-American organization which hides behind the title ACLU is also helping to endanger the lifes of the Minitemen.
The Minutemen are moving forward, and thankfully to news sources that love this country, freedom, and the truth! They must be having heart failure at CNN and the NYT.
The Anti-American organization which hides behind the title ACLU is also helping to endanger the lifes of the Minitemen.