jdthaddeus
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I have seen quite a few 1911 types from different manufacturers that came out of the box working great.
I have heard of quality production 1911's that don't work out of the box, but I have also heard of Glocks that don't work but I have never seen one. The way I see it, the i-net is a big place, and there are a lot of guns out there. Someone out there is going to get a lemon and we are going to hear about it.
I have seen one really nice Colt that had a lot of problems...but they really began once the owner started putting on aftermarket parts. And once I bought it from him for a good price, and CLEANED it, it has not malfunctioned once for me.
You can buy most basic 1911 models and they will work well.
The thing is: most 1911 afficionados are PICKY. They WANT to fix up the gun. They want to make it more accurate. They cannot handle little things like MIM parts in their gun, even if they work.
For instance, on my Glocks, I have tons of MIM parts and such, but who cares, it works, right? I don't have any desire to make my Glock more accurate, because I don't want to mess with something that works. The trigger on my Glock is kind of crunchy, buy I don't care so much.
A 1911 owner COULD for example stick with the basic trigger job he got out of the box, but he WANTS to spend the money for a really fine trigger, so he does. I could spend money on a trigger job for my Glock too, but I have no interest.
1911 afficionados will often buy a perfectly good gun and improve on it. It ain't broke, but they want to improve it.
You can get a Kimber and %99 of the time it will work great out of the box. But, if you want to get picky you can start improving it. Put in forged steel parts (even though the MIM parts were working just fine), get it coated, add grip stippling, and on and on it goes. Pretty soon you dumped $1000 into it to get what you want. But, you did not HAVE to.
I could dump $1000 into my Glock too, with custom barrels, grip reductions, trigger jobs, night sights, recoil systems etc. But, I don't HAVE to, in order to get it to do its job.
There are occasional lemons in all guns, and there are some manufacturers that screw up the 1911 pattern, but if you buy from a good company, you should have an excellent gun out of the box.
For instance, in the store near me I can get a Glock .45 with night sights for a fair bit over $600 or I can get a really nice Kimber Pro CDP from the custom shop with night sights for under $750. They both will work great out of the box. And, even as a Glock fan, I would argue that you get a whole lot more value of a gun in the Kimber. (I kindof compared apples to oranges there, a basic Glock to a custom Kimber, but those are the two I happened to be looking at. A basic Kimber would likely cost you the same or less than the Glock and unless you got a very rare lemon from either company, they both would be reliable.)
I have heard of quality production 1911's that don't work out of the box, but I have also heard of Glocks that don't work but I have never seen one. The way I see it, the i-net is a big place, and there are a lot of guns out there. Someone out there is going to get a lemon and we are going to hear about it.
I have seen one really nice Colt that had a lot of problems...but they really began once the owner started putting on aftermarket parts. And once I bought it from him for a good price, and CLEANED it, it has not malfunctioned once for me.
You can buy most basic 1911 models and they will work well.
The thing is: most 1911 afficionados are PICKY. They WANT to fix up the gun. They want to make it more accurate. They cannot handle little things like MIM parts in their gun, even if they work.
For instance, on my Glocks, I have tons of MIM parts and such, but who cares, it works, right? I don't have any desire to make my Glock more accurate, because I don't want to mess with something that works. The trigger on my Glock is kind of crunchy, buy I don't care so much.
A 1911 owner COULD for example stick with the basic trigger job he got out of the box, but he WANTS to spend the money for a really fine trigger, so he does. I could spend money on a trigger job for my Glock too, but I have no interest.
1911 afficionados will often buy a perfectly good gun and improve on it. It ain't broke, but they want to improve it.
You can get a Kimber and %99 of the time it will work great out of the box. But, if you want to get picky you can start improving it. Put in forged steel parts (even though the MIM parts were working just fine), get it coated, add grip stippling, and on and on it goes. Pretty soon you dumped $1000 into it to get what you want. But, you did not HAVE to.
I could dump $1000 into my Glock too, with custom barrels, grip reductions, trigger jobs, night sights, recoil systems etc. But, I don't HAVE to, in order to get it to do its job.
There are occasional lemons in all guns, and there are some manufacturers that screw up the 1911 pattern, but if you buy from a good company, you should have an excellent gun out of the box.
For instance, in the store near me I can get a Glock .45 with night sights for a fair bit over $600 or I can get a really nice Kimber Pro CDP from the custom shop with night sights for under $750. They both will work great out of the box. And, even as a Glock fan, I would argue that you get a whole lot more value of a gun in the Kimber. (I kindof compared apples to oranges there, a basic Glock to a custom Kimber, but those are the two I happened to be looking at. A basic Kimber would likely cost you the same or less than the Glock and unless you got a very rare lemon from either company, they both would be reliable.)