I thought Ron Paul did pretty good tonight

We're making headway which is why insiders like Gingrich are showing up to try and steal Ron Paul's attention.

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Its all baloney. Republican pollster Frank Luntz had several focus groups last night watching the debate. All of the groups were made up of registered NH republicans and all stated that they hated Paul. THESE are the people voting in the primary. Internet polls are junk. Network polls are junk. In all the scientific and reputable polls Paul pulls in 1%. He's not gaining anything.

Now Thompson (Fred) on the other hand is a different story. According to Luntz, Thompson has the highest recognition to support ratio of ANY candidate. Thats right, any candidate, both democrat and republican.

Its my hope that despite the Paul lemmings, Thompson will stll be able to win.
 
recognition to support ratio? huh?

Highly recognized and little support would make that a large number, but not be a good thing.
 
All of the groups were made up of registered NH republicans and all stated that they hated Paul. THESE are the people voting in the primary.
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what people from the internet don't vote? If anything, I would say the groups you state above were all staged and selected. they are not made up of real everyday people who watched the debate.

You can't just write off all these other polls as "junk" or "ron paul gets his supporters to log on quicker than everybody else or secretly manages to block most of america who really hates him on the internet."
 
Now Thompson (Fred) on the other hand is a different story.
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No he's not. He's the same story as the man you have in office right now, just a different name. I watched him on H&C last night, the man is a Bush clone. Thats why so many Bush supporters endorse him.
 
I heard on the radio this morning that NH voters do not have to choose a party during their primaries and are therefore able to choose whoever they want. If this is true it would make the hand picked group of 'Repub Voters' not all that relevant.
 
recognition to support ratio? huh?

Highly recognized and little support would make that a large number, but not be a good thing.
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Highest as in best. According to the think tank Thompson is running at about 50% recognizability and 18% support. All this without being in the race.

You can't just write off all these other polls as "junk" or "ron paul gets his supporters to log on quicker than everybody else or secretly manages to block most of america who really hates him on the internet."
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Sure I can, primarily because the people clicking the Paul button aren't registered republicans. If these polls meant something then you should be able to show me a single reputable poll showing Paul at 5%. Just 5%. But you can't because he doesn't have the support.


No he's not. He's the same story as the man you have in office right now, just a different name. I watched him on H&C last night, the man is a Bush clone. Thats why so many Bush supporters endorse him.
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Based on what. Just off the top of my head I can think of 3 things where he markedly differs form Bush, the least of which is the 2nd amendment. Your logic that because Bush supporters are backing Thompson he's going to be like Bush just isn't valid. There are plenty of Bush supporters on this board alone who are utterly disgusted with the president. However, considering the alternatives (Gore & Kerry) what choice was there.

Quite the contrary, I submit to you that the number of Bush voters that are flocking to Thompson shows just how different he is. GWB turned out to be the conservative that wasn't and they are looking for the real deal.
 
I don't quite understand this desperate fear of Paul IF it's coming from actual conservatives(constitutionalists). Now I can understand it if it's all from the neocon lefty-lites. Utter fear would be the cause. Regardless, I'm another Paul supporter who is (still) a registered Repub. I admit, though, that I'll settle for Thompson and wouldn't mind Huckabee or Tancredo. The rest I simply will not even cast a vote for, regardless of who the Democrat Party is running.
 
I have heard that Fred Thompson voted for the Patriot Act, the Medicare Reform Bill, and Campaign Finance Reform.

Those are the three biggest reasons I dislike Bush. I think Thompson is very similar to Bush, and is trying to highlight slight differences and make them sound more different than they really are.
 
Based on what.
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Oh , I dont know, voting record maybe?
http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/George_W__Bush.htm

You may know three things they differ on, but there's a whole page worth of issues where they meet on common ground.

Your logic that because Bush supporters are backing Thompson he's going to be like Bush just isn't valid.
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Bush supporters truly like Thompson because he is so much like Bush. How is that not valid.? I've watched the man in more than one interview, he doesnt veer far from Bushs' view on any topic brought up wether it be the Patriot act, CFR, Iraq war, anything. Like I said, I've watched him on H&C, Meet the Press, and listened to him on Hannitys radio show. He sounds like Bush.
 
If Fred Thompson voted for Campaign Finance Reform, Medicare Reform, and the Patriot Act, then he is close enough to a Bush Clone, that I won't vote for him.

Of course now, he says he does not support parts of the Patriot Act and Campaign Finance Reform. When a
Democrat changes his mind, we call it flip-flopping. Republicans seem to turn a blind eye to it when they do it themselves.
 
At this point i see only two I would vote for and that is Ron Paul or Tancredo, although my opinion is neither have a chance, corporations I believe fear some one like Ron Paul and will do what it takes to defeat him. Like it or not large corporations control our government.

Ron Paul spoke on this subject couple days ago and his fear was simply that people are fed up with both parties and will not come out to vote on election day.
 
Paul on Tucker Carlson

Ron Paul had a nice segment yesterday on MSNBC, talking to Tucker Carlson. He came across as calm, sensible, and articulate. Tucker even said he'd like to have Dr. Paul on again in order to get some straight talk!
 
What are Guliani and McCain's appeal? They are two of the most arrogant weazels who are so much in love with themselves. Politically they are just about the closest things to traitors as you can get (given their open border anti-american proposition nation immigration stances), as far as friends of liberties they are about the closest things to traitors as you can get (given both of their desire to "stay the course" in Iraq and Guliani wanting to have us all in a national database and ID card)

But CNN, at least, and all the networks keep the spotlight on them as though they are something really special
 
But CNN, at least, and all the networks keep the spotlight on them as though they are something really special
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What are Guliani and McCain's appeal?
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Money. The MSM is trying to make friends with the ones that they think can win and they think the ones with the most money are most likely to win (usually right).

Also, Giuliani appeals to the "tough on crime and terror" crowd and McCain appeals to the flag waving warmonger crowd.
 
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