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[Mad Martigan]

Was the removal of Jefferson from Ways and Means and added to Homeland Security an net gain, a net loss, or a wash for Jefferson?

A net loss. I'm having trouble seeing your point. It appears to go something like: "Jefferson was removed from a powerful committee lalalalalalalalalala." I'm sure you can express it better than that, but that's the way it comes across.

What I'm saying and you seem to be ignoring is that it's a net loss. I'd love to hear your argument otherwise, because you seem to not be seeing the big picture.

On the contrary. You seem to be ignoring the big picture by focusing on such a narrow area of this pre-indictment saga. That's pretty much the opposite of looking at the big picture.

The appointment to homeland security has nothing to do with this. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that an ethics violation means that a congressman shouldn't be seated on any committee. Without an indictment, this was a measured response to a 9th term congressman.

Like Hell it doesn't. Jefferson doesn't stop being what he is by being removed from the ways and means committee. I've already described his situation when he was placed on the homeland security committee. I don't think he should be seated on any committee. I don't think he should be seated in congress. With or without an indictment this response was appalling in its weakness and complacence. It basically means that Jefferson is too crooked to be trusted on the ways and means committee, but just crooked enough for homeland security. Utterly ridiculous.

 

[SecDef]

It basically means that Jefferson is too crooked to be trusted on the ways and means committee, but just crooked enough for homeland security.

Correct. You finally figured it out. Good for you.

Utterly ridiculous.

oops, you fail politics. You must be a regular person.

 

[Mad Martigan]

Ahhh

 

[Fremmer]

Yep, 'ol Jefferson is a member of the House Small Business Committee.

Why is someone who has been indicted with cash and tapes and all of the other evidence appointed to a leadership position on a committee? Heck, he shouldn't even still be a representative, much less a committee member.

Edited to add: I just found this CNN story confirming Jefferson's appointment to the homeland security committee. That's wonderful. Just who we need in there to protect homeland security. He can't even stash his own bribe money right!

Looks like Pelosi and Jefferson struck a deal, eh?