I saw two guys get shot last night.

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There's two kinds of story starters. One is "This is no $h!T" and the other, "Once upon a time"

I'm leaning towards the second
 
So i have been informed as of today as of what actually happened last night.

I said two guys get shot, one shot with a tazer and the other shot with a real gun.

When i said Sig i meant a Sig"gun" the actual brand.

I never lied to the officers, they asked what i knew of before they arrived, and i said i heard yelling.

I have also found out that it was not a crack house, but a house owned by a eldery woman who let her neighbors use her garage since she did not drive or own a car.

What led up to all of this was the guy drove the girls car into a fence around the corner and was trying to flee and the girl went all hey wire on him, in which the passenger got out of the car and started yelling at her, telling her to walk home. A neighbor heard the argument and called 911.

When the police got there both men and the girl were not taking orderd givin to them by the police.

The Driver was Tazed by a yellow looking gun, the passenger, who i thought was shot with a pistol was actually shot in the upper pelvic area with some type of bean bag. No one was killed or even seriously hurt.

This all happened in Desoto Tx, near Cedar Hill (joe wilson rd and beltline)

The police found nothing in the mans car (drugs or gun).

My girlfriend had spoke with a neighbor about it today who works at the fire station, where the ambulance had came from.

I know i have a low post count
 
Well, if they just wanted to know about the lead-up, that's kosher I suppose. Seems like those young cops could use an eye-witness backing up their story if you could do so, though.

Kind of odd that they would not care to question a witness to a cop shooting about the shooting itself, but what the hell do I know... (answer: not much:))
 
So the guy that was "shot" was hit by a non-lethal round from a Sig? The bean-bag impact required paramedics and oxygen?

I'm having fun with this thread. I hope if I ever have a story like this, it's this entertaining!
 
And I stand correct...

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt (sometimes to a fault) so thanks for not letting me down this time hwrcwby81!

Pay no attention to the nay-sayers shouting "LIAR". You're a fairly new member so you automatically have the burden of proof laid upon you after an uncommon post like this... Nothing personal from them, just a common practice to demand comfirmation. Anyway, thanks for the update and glad to hear that your GF doesnt live next to a crack house :)
 
Not a bean bag... Maybe a homemade hot glue gun type glue bullet...:o hate to see that paraded in front of a jury...:rolleyes: to me SHOT is projectile intended to pierce flesh... and I don't mean mini tow missile wire needles...
Brent
 
And I stand correct...

I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt (sometimes to a fault) so thanks for not letting me down this time hwrcwby81!

Pay no attention to the nay-sayers shouting "LIAR". You're a fairly new member so you automatically have the burden of proof laid upon you after an uncommon post like this... Nothing personal from them, just a common practice to demand comfirmation. Anyway, thanks for the update and glad to hear that your GF doesnt live next to a crack house
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Well, give yourself a big pat on the back if that's what makes you feel good, but what is undeniable (from the OP's own words) are that the actual circumstances of the event are vastly different from what he originally described.
 
Well, give yourself a big pat on the back if that's what makes you feel good, but what is undeniable (from the OP's own words) are that the actual circumstances of the event are vastly different from what he originally described.
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Hey I'm not gonna sleep better tonight or anything... I just hate to see a newer member getting called a "liar" because of his post count. It's fine to question his story, but comments like "your full of crap" or saying you are going to "alert the authorities" is just silly.

If the story had turned out to be completely BS then by all means flame away. I just thought that everyone was too quick to jump on his case. Sure, his details were more than lacking in the OP, but judging by the time it was posted I cant say that you can blame him.

I'd be pretty amped up if I had just witnessed what appeared to be a shooting outside my house. Probably wouldnt quite get all the specifics down either. I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say that I doubt many of us could determine a bullet from a non-lethal round from a distance, in the middle of the night...

Anyhow, I dont need any pats on the back. I was just kinda glad to see he wasnt full of it.
 
Now if you had just included in your story that you saw one of the cops accidentally shoot himself in the leg with his evil, no safety Glock then there would be no naysayers and everyone would be on board. :)
 
Normal Procedure

So the guy that was "shot" was hit by a non-lethal round from a Sig? The bean-bag impact required paramedics and oxygen?
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Anytime a suspect, or someone who is in custody is injured, LE will go out of their way to make sure of the well being of said individual. This is due to potential lawsuits. By law, while in custody, an individuals health/welfare is the responsibility of LE.

But everything else aside, I wish people would learn basic English...
It would make things much easier to read.

Eli W.
 
haha wow good story! nothing more and nothing less! everyone who gets all fired up because he lied to the police is an idiot. heres what usually happens: you start talking to the police, they ask all kinds of questions confusing you to the point where you accidentally mistakenly say something you didnt mean, next thing you know theyre searching your house and you end up going to jail for something thats completely unrelated to the original crime.

personally i NEVER talk to police unless its an extremely minor crime or extremely major crime and im the victim.
 
you start talking to the police, they ask all kinds of questions confusing you to the point where you accidentally mistakenly say something you didnt mean, next thing you know theyre searching your house and you end up going to jail for something thats completely unrelated to the original crime.
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A lot of crimes get solved that way. And you're correct, if you're dirty for something and mentally slow enough to get tangled up by that old knuckle dragging copper on the street, you should keep your mouth shut.
There's an old saying; Don't get into a battle of wits if you're unarmed.
 
WIN71 said:
if you're dirty for something and mentally slow enough to get tangled up by that old knuckle dragging copper on the street, you should keep your mouth shut.
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I think you vastly underestimate the effectiveness of police interrogations. I highly recommend that you have a lawyer present anytime you are being questioned by police. There is a reason that Americans have that right. If you have nothing to hide, then the lawyer is not going to hurt you at all. I really do not understand the position of "I don't want a lawyer present because I'm too smart to get tricked." It is not hard to let something slip, whether you have committed a crime or not, or to phrase a statement the wrong way, or do or say anything incorrectly to imply that you have done anything illegal. There are some very experienced police interrogators out there, and it is really not worth the gamble of not having a lawyer. When your freedom is on the table, or even has the slightest possibility of being on the table, do yourself a favor and get a lawyer.
 
I think you vastly underestimate the effectiveness of police interrogations.
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Excellent observation Bucky. However; I think you vastly overestimate your ability to draw that conclusion. Unless of course you have had years of experience in interrogations. If that's the case curiosity demands I ask. Which side of the table were you on?
 
http://www.freebeagles.org/articles/interrog.html
That pretty well sums it up. UK site, but the same principles apply in America.

WIN71 said:
if you're dirty for something and mentally slow enough to get tangled up by that old knuckle dragging copper on the street
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The problem is that the guy interrogating you is not the knuckle-dragging cop from the street. You get a couple of detectives who typically have done hundreds of "interviews" in their career, many more than you, I'll bet. By the time they have done several interviews, plus their training, they know what works and what doesn't, and often their objective is to lock you up, not to achieve justice. Therefore, by reading your broad generalizations of police detectives (knuckle-draggers), I was able to deduce that you underestimate police interrogators. I have spoken to many police detectives, such as my father, who is a retired detective, and his friends, and I can assure you that they are not "knuckle-draggers".

So yeah, you can take a gamble in a police interview if you want to, but I don't really see the purpose. There are really no benefits for you to talk to police without a lawyer present, only disadvantages. So why would you want to do that? Just get a lawyer. If you don't see the wisdom in that, then I would advise that you "Don't get in a battle of wits if you're unarmed". Not having a lawyer present seems a little masochistic to me. You would be stacking the odds in the police's favor. I don't think that you could find a defense attorney in the nation who would advise you to talk to the police without a lawyer present. It doesn't matter who you are or how intelligent you are. The fact that you disagree with that advice tells me that you underestimate the effectiveness of police interrogations.

Defense attorneys deal with police interrogations all of the time, and I am parroting their advice. They collectively have more experience with police interrogations than you or I. They would advise everyone to have a lawyer present during any police interview. Not just stupid people. Everyone. Even defense attorneys that are under investigation. I have confidence in defense attorneys' collective estimation of police interrogations, so I heed their advice. The fact that your statement basically says "only stupid people need defense attorneys present during interviews" combined with your generalizations about police interrogators (knuckle draggers) is what leads me to the conclusion that you underestimate the effectiveness of police interrogations.

It is true that I have limited experience with police interrogations (only seen a few). Because of this, I parrot the advice of those who do have experience and no ulterior motive. That would be defense attorneys. There is the reason that Americans have the right to have an attorney present, and I (along with almost all, if not all, defense attorneys) suggest that you exercise that right if you are ever in that scenario.
 
I think you vastly underestimate the effectiveness of police interrogations.
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The problem is that the guy interrogating...and often their objective is to lock you up
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You guys live in areas with an interesting police force. I've NEVER, ever, and I mean never, heard of someone who witnessed a crime being "interrogated" and end up charged for some entirely unrelated matter. I think you may be confusing someone who is an innocent witness with someone who is involved in the illegal activity. I mean what does the cop say "So, you saw these two arguing in the alley and then... Hey, you got any crack in your apartment? MInd if we take a look?"

Secondarily, I could talk to a police officer who WAS out to get me for hours and not get arrested. See, I'm not a criminal. So... I don't know what I'd say that he wouldn't like. Let's just say I did make them want to search my house. Again, I'm not a criminal so they could tear my house apart from rafters to basement and find NO reason to arrest me.

Cops are PEOPLE. They have families and cars and mortgages like all of us. They have friends and neighbors and enemies, just like us. We're not talking about Hitlers SS and some government agenda. They mostly want to get on with their paperwork and not worry about whether a witness might have a pot pipe in his car so they can do yet MORE paperwork.
 
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