I just got yelled at for keeping a handgun

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You seem to think that people that don't have your view are not aware of the dangers around them.
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You could not be further from the truth.

Every day in our country there are news stories about murders, abductions, and home invasions. There have recently been two high-profile cases about girls disappearing and their remains being found. And the case I mentioned earlier.

This is a firearms forum. You choosing not to carry is certainly your right, but it is not the more common mindset here- you are not among the majority. And again, it's not about fear. It's about being prepared.
 
Quote. This is a firearms forum. You choosing not to carry is certainly your right, but it is not the more common mindset here- you are not among the majority. And again, it's not about fear. It's about being prepared.

If we worried about being prepared for everything that might happen we would never leave the house.
As for being a firearm forum i am on it because i have always had a interest in firearms. I have had firearms of some description all my life mostly for hunting and target shooting but don't feel the need to have one for self defence. And i am fully aware of the dangers here. Some that are different to America.
 
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Whats moral principles got to do with having a firearm.
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Perhaps the highest moral principle is to protect human life. In the case of an assault, it is that principle that makes it 100 percent moral to use deadly force 9such as a gun) to defend your own life, or the life of a third party.

This principle transcends religion. It is clearly stated in the Roman Catholic Catechism. And it has been widely reported that the Dalai Lama was once asked what an enlightened person should do if accosted by an armed robber. Supposedly, the Dalai Lama's response was that the prudent thing to do would be to take out your own gun and shoot the robber.

So if my moral principles include recognizing that I have a fundamental human right to defend my life, and I choose to have a firearm available as an instrument for defending my life ... then if someone comes along and tells me I can't have a gun available it very much becomes a moral issue. That person is asking (demanding) that I compromise my moral principles. No one has a right to demand that I compromise my principles.
 
manta-

Upon further thought, some more comments. Most people are not aware of the dangers around them. Plain and simple truth.

If I choose not to go somewhere I can't legally carry, maybe it's my choice not to go somewhere which doesn't respect my rights. That has nothing to do with fear of being attacked at that moment.

Following your logic:

I'm just going down to the store for a few minutes. What's the worst that could happen?

I'm just going out to mow the lawn. What's the worst that could happen?

We're just going to that political rally to see our representative. What's the worst that could happen?

We're just going to the movies. What's the worst that could happen?

It's the moments of normal life such as these when other things happen. Would you rather be prepared, or totally unprepared? You seem to have made your choice. I have also.
 
I would take more issue with having been made to sleep on the couch...

That said, attitude toward guns (and for that matter, the military) is part of my screening process.
 
manta49 said:
If we worried about being prepared for everything that might happen we would never leave the house.
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Someone (and I very much think it was you) made this exact statement in another discussion on this forum several weeks ago. It was a ridiculous statement then, in the context of that discussion, and it's a ridiculous statement now, in the context of this discussion.

Do you carry a spare tire ("tyre") and lug wrench in your car? If so, why?

Do you have a box of bandaids in the medicine cabinet? If so, why?

Do keep a bottle of aspirin or Tylenol in the cupboard? If so, why?

TO BE PREPARED.
 
I can see mantas view easily. His is a prime example of demonstrated use of his brain as his primary weapon, rather than his load-out. Being able to detach from your gun and be able to be comfortable is a sign of high intelligence, and emotional stability. He's obviously in the minority here, lol.

I like carrying a gun, I'm just sayin'...:D
 
Quote. Perhaps the highest moral principle is to protect human life. In the case of an assault, it is that principle that makes it 100 percent moral to use deadly force 9such as a gun) to defend your own life, or the life of a third party.

So follow that logic someone that chooses not to own or carry a firearm has lower moral principles than someone that does.

I don't need religions to tell how to lead a moral life. Most would need to get their own house in order before preaching to others. Looking after and protecting children would be a high moral principle in my book . One of the organisations you quoted fell down badly on that moral principle.
 
So follow that logic someone that chooses not to own or carry a firearm has lower moral principles than someone that does.
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If you are going to resort to these types of tactics, it's not worth trying to have a rational discussion with you.
 
Quote. Someone (and I very much think it was you) made this exact statement in another discussion on this forum several weeks ago. It was a ridiculous statement then, in the context of that discussion, and it's a ridiculous statement now, in the context of this discussion.
Do you carry a spare tire ("tyre") and lug wrench in your car? If so, why?

Do you have a box of bandaids in the medicine cabinet? If so, why?

Do keep a bottle of aspirin or Tylenol in the cupboard? If so, why


Its simple people have differing views on firearms my wife doesn't like firearms i except that i am not going to try to frighten her to get her to come around to my view. As i said the ones that say dump her or get rid of her don't know the guys relationship or background is just stupid.
People make decisions on every day on what they need. Tyre possibly aspirin possibly needing a firearm very unlikely. Its all about choice some feel the need some doint both have every right to do either.


PS What was the forum and what makes you think it was me.
 
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Here's my take on it.

If you are not man enough to make a commitment to a woman to marry her, don't whine and grip about what you get.

Life's a bummer.
 
I CCW, but I have no problem with those that don't regardless of their reasons. I find it ridiculous that some of those that do carry feel the need to ridicule those that don't. Freedom means free to do as you chose as long as it's legal. The decision to carry is subjective. There is no right or wrong, only what's right or wrong for you. Don't want folks telling you how to live your life, don't tell them how to live theirs. Want folks to respect your decisions, then don't disrespect theirs.

Most would need to get their own house in order before preaching to others.
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...........well said.
 
So have any of you ever had to deal with a similar situation? How do you formulate the words to convey that you're preparing for an emergency, and that you'll always keep safety as top priority? And what if they just refuse to accept the usefulness of being armed?
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After dealing with a few paranoid females that thought firearms were pure evil and capable of going on killing sprees on their own; while suppressing my own feelings and opinions...

I came to a single conclusion:
This is my life.
I will not suppress my thoughts and desires, just to avoid an argument.
If you don't like the way I wish to live my life, you will not be part of it.


Within 3 weeks of meeting my (future) wife, I told her in an appropriate manner:
I own multiple firearms.
They're important to me.
I keep firearms available to me, to defend myself and those I love.
It is important to me.
I will continue buying more firearms, until I am no longer capable of using them.
I reload. I assemble my own ammunition in my home.
These things are important to me.
I will not give these things up.

Having spent much of her life in an anti-gun city, of an anti-gun county, of an anti-gun state; she was another one of the "but guns are evil" crowd. However... she decided to give them a chance.

Now, she has her own SD handgun, has bought several firearms as gifts for me, and has bought 2 or 3 firearms for herself (and has a firearms wishlist longer than my own).
 
Thank god my wife and I both have the sense to keep a loaded gun within reach of where we sleep. We've already talked about it and when we have kids we will each have one of those biometic mini-lock boxes near our night stands.

That being said...my wife drew the line when I cleared out her makeup drawer in the bathroom one day and stashed a 1911 with spare magazines in there; somehow I think if I did that with my drawer on the other side of the bathroom sink she wouldn't mind.
 
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