-----single action heavy recoiling six shooters were
designed to "roll up" in the hand when fired (while on horse back)to facilitate re cocking for the next shot----pretty hard to accomplish this with a sticky rubber grip. don't be a wimp---use it like it was designed to be used.
just my personal take on the grip issue-----single action heavy recoiling six shooters were
designed to "roll up" in the hand when fired (while on horse back)to facilitate re cocking for the next shot----pretty hard to accomplish this with a sticky rubber grip. don't be a wimp---use it like it was designed to be used.
Evidently you never had the "pleasure" of shooting a Flattop Blackhawk .44 Magnum with factory ammo as I did back in the sixties. It had a five and six inch barrel (I think it was six...in any event shorter than a Superblackhawk), and when it fired, it would "slip down in the hand" and the 90 degree angles on the sides of the frame would put a whole lot of hurt to the web of one's hand. It was just too painful to shoot. There was an article in one of the then popular gun magazines (Shooting Times or Guns & Ammo), that explained the "proper technique" for shooting those hand cannons. According to the article, one had to keep significant pressure on the little and next finger to keep the gun from rolling up in the hand and striking the web of the hand. I tried it and it worked...much, much less pain. The gun burned in a fire 4-5 years later but not before I put several thousand cast Keith-type bullets through it with a healthy load of Hercules 2400. "Let it roll up in the hand", my butt!Instead of the Hogue"s why not learn how to shoot the revolver with the stock grips as it was intended? The grip frame is supposed to slip in the hand to help mitigate recoil. There is an art to shooting big bores proficiently.
Evidently you never had the "pleasure" of shooting a Flattop Blackhawk .44 Magnum with factory ammo as I did back in the sixties. It had a five and six inch barrel (I think it was six...in any event shorter than a Superblackhawk), and when it fired, it would "slip down in the hand" and the 90 degree angles on the sides of the frame would put a whole lot of hurt to the web of one's hand. It was just too painful to shoot. There was an article in one of the then popular gun magazines (Shooting Times or Guns & Ammo), that explained the "proper technique" for shooting those hand cannons. According to the article, one had to keep significant pressure on the little and next finger to keep the gun from rolling up in the hand and striking the web of the hand. I tried it and it worked...much, much less pain. The gun burned in a fire 4-5 years later but not before I put several thousand cast Keith-type bullets through it with a healthy load of Hercules 2400. "Let it roll up in the hand", my butt!
You do know of course that the original post is not about a Super Blackhawk, but the much smaller Blackhawk in .44 magnum? A whole different animal. Shooting the larger Super Blackhawk has little in common with shooting the smaller Blackhawk.Elmer Keith was a odd fellow. He very much liked the frame of the Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 Mag, he called it the Dragoon style frame. Keith had small hands and never complained about the squared off rear of the trigger guard rapping the middle finger of the grip hand under recoil. But it does rap mine with more powerful loads. So I tend to swap out grip frames for a more comfortable one.
This is pretty much true.
It's also true that no one was shooting a 44 Mag back then as well.
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The 44 Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk were/are the same size frame. The difference being the steel vs. aluminum grip frame.You do know of course that the original post is not about a Super Blackhawk, but the much smaller Blackhawk in .44 magnum? A whole different animal. Shooting the larger Super Blackhawk has little in common with shooting the smaller Blackhawk.
I believe rubber stocks on a single action are in some way just wrong.
You are just plain wrong. My original Flat-top, three-screw, .44 Magnum Blackhawk (made in the fifties), obtained in about 1964 (used) had a smaller frame (XR3) than the Super Blackhawks I bought when that Blackhawk burned in a fire in about 1970. The grip area was smaller and the Blackhawk had the round trigger guard whereas the Super Blackhawks had that squared-off back of the trigger guard.The 44 Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk were/are the same size frame. The difference being the steel vs. aluminum grip frame.
The original prototype 44 Blackhawk was built on the 357 frame but was changed to the larger 44 frame when it went into actual production.
I'm talking about the frame itself. I know the grip frame was slightly smaller but you implied the whole gun was smaller :"but the much smaller Blackhawk in .44 magnum? A whole different animal".You are just plain wrong. My original Flat-top, three-screw, .44 Magnum Blackhawk (made in the fifties), obtained in about 1964 (used) had a smaller frame (XR3) than the Super Blackhawks I bought when that Blackhawk burned in a fire in about 1970. The grip area was smaller and the Blackhawk had the round trigger guard whereas the Super Blackhawks had that squared-off back of the trigger guard.
http://www.gunblast.com/Hamm_Ruger-SA-GripFrames.htm
Yes, and no. Shooting the gun will not affect collector value. It is already "used". DAMAGE caused by shooting the gun (including finish wear) WILL affect the collector value. (and that include the degree of holster wear on the finish.
I respect your opinion, but many disagree, including Colt.
perhaps the problem is the word "rubber" is rather ...flexible...
there are many kinds of "rubber" and include both hard rubber, gutta percha (a form of hard rubber), soft rubber, and both oversize and "traditional" size grips.
Colt began putting "rubber" grips on the Single Action Army a few years after they began production. Gutta Percha (hard rubber) were the standard grip for commercial guns for generations. Only the govt contract guns got walnut grips, from the 1880s on....
So, while you may not feel the oversize rubber style looks right, (and how about oversize wood?? is that ok. style wise??), just saying "rubber is wrong" kind of goes against what Colt did for many years before WWII ended SAA production.
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