I have a solution that I think Hugo Chavez would be happy with

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What is DIFFERENT is that the remarks were made on our soil at the UN. Our internal politics go on and on. But when 9-11 happened, the politics stopped for a while. I never particularily liked Bill Clinton as president, but I would not want Chevez making comments such as he did here about him either. It goes beyond politics. Let them spout all they want to in their own countries. Chevez wants the temporary seat in the UN Security Council and he is doing what he thinks will get him the seat. Anti-US UN.... He is a hoodlum who happens to be president of a country.
 
The only way I will buy Citgo gas is if it is $0.20 per gallon less than everyone else, I'm about to run out and don't want to walk, or I have no choice. Time to switch brands gas station owners.....
 
Although he charmed the United Nations' helpless and the Harlem natives and Hollywood leftists, there is a way to retaliate against leftist Venezuelian strongman Hugo Chavez; don't buy CITGO Gas!

From CITGO's corporate site: CITGO is "...owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela."

Several web bloggers are calling for boycotts to hit Chavez in the wallet and since gas prices are in freefall, shop around when you need to gas up and avoid CITGO...

I am aware of the implications of the boycott and how they are not 100% effective yet I don't want one penny of my money finding its way into the grubby little leftist hands of Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez and by not shopping at CITGO I (and we) can accomplish that end. Insofar as whether CITGO corporately would be hurt, I think we need to look at the obvious; CITGO's credit card business in addition to its petroleum business are totally predicated upon we people (Americans) using both; shopping elsewhere, while admittedly would hurt independantly-owned operators of stations, would evently leave a glut of both credit cards and petroleum unused; both of which would hurt their stock. Further, said independant operators of stations, irrate that customers are exercising their boycott freedoms, send a powerful message to CITGO Corporate officials to keep bigmouth leftist Chavez quiet...
 
I haven't spent a dime at Citgo in years, (just coincidence because there are none near me), and you can bet now I NEVER WILL! It made me want to puke the way Glover was hanging all over him like a kid grabbing his Teddy Bear. Total fool! Bill T.
 
Last night on one of the news blabberfests there were two guests saying just about all the Citgo stations in the US are independently owned so you'd then only be hitting private business in the pocketbook. Then the Venezualans would sell to other companies so you'll end up buying Venezuelan fuel eventually. Anyway, Citgo's additive package is pretty low on the quality fuel food chain. If you really care about your car, BP/Amoco and Shell are what you want in it. The price premium is worth it. (I am a gearhead and a chemical engineer, besides a gun enthusiast.)
 
Hugo Chavez...

I'm not even an american and still i'm pissed with the nerve of this guy! Who does he think he is!
 
Am I blind or something? What happened to the post that someone made, saying that they'll buy the Chavez gas as long as it's cheaper?

Was it deleted?

-azurefly
 
Cut back our payments to the average of all the others. Then is George Soros or Maurice Strong objects to the funding level, let them pay for it out of their own money. I see no reason for We The People to fund groups dedicated to our destruction.
 
azurefl said:
y Am I blind or something? What happened to the post that someone made, saying that they'll buy the Chavez gas as long as it's cheaper?

Was it deleted?

-azurefly
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I think a mod was doing some editing because I didn't make that last post at 5:29 p.m. yesterday.
 
The city of Boston is now looking at covering up the giant CITGO sign that stands beyond the baseball field at Fenway.
 
but he's OUR idiot,
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For years I have listen to members of the left criticize the intellectual abilities of the Republican politicians. But the irony was almost all those people had no where near academic background nor made half the accomplishments in their life, yet were doing the criticism without anyone asking them the question on what ground are you able to judge?

Why is it the likes of Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, Eisenhower and yes George W Bush can be such idiots yet raise to the top office in the land? Maybe the “dumb” moniker is something to make the pseudo intellectuals out there feel better about their own short comings.
 
Stlrn...

These days votes don't get people into top office, the main thing is... $$$$$. If you have it, you're untouchable, ask any celebrity who has the "get-out-of-jail" card. Ask any political offical who's high up there. (Of course the politcal figures will just dodge the issue.)


Epyon

P.S: Do you call the passing of bills that directly violate the Constitution as intelligent? Both the Democrats AND Republicans are guilty of it. I guess they are both intelligent if the People do nothing to try to stop it..
 
Epryon

I don't disagree that money helps a whole lot, but it is not the only factor.

Just like both Clinton and Carter, I despise both of them, however I would never say they were idiots. Just very wrong in their policies and beliefs.

But I would really like to see the qualifications of all those who happen to think the current or the past Republican CinCs were idiots. I would bet very few would not stack up.
 
Epyon

P.S: Do you call the passing of bills that directly violate the Constitution as intelligent? Both the Democrats AND Republicans are guilty of it. I guess they are both intelligent if the People do nothing to try to stop it..
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Well that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or lack of it. And neither you nor I really have a say in what is or isn't constitutional. We may have an opinion, but you know what they say about opinions.
 
Stlrn...

Well that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or lack of it.
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Is that so? Is it not intelligent of the politically elite to try to usurp our rights in order to gain power? Isn't it because of lack of intelligence or willingness that people allow their rights to be given up? Then who decides what is un-Constitutional? The courts? What about when bills presented are glaringly un-Constitutional? Such as unwarranted search and siezure, and detention without the right to a lawyer. Are those not against the law established? The courts have already ruled before(yes ironic that I list them as both problem and solution.) that anyone domestically charged with a crime is to face due process. Even if judges don't hold accountable those responsible for passing un-Constitutional bills, the point of being given the freedoms established by the Bill of Rights promotes transparency of the law. If/when the People tire of laws that are against what they believe it is their right to change the government, whether by leglislation or by force. Just as it is the job of the military to protect our country from outside, it is the job of the People to protect the country from within. (Unfortunately complacency and prejudice keeps us from progressing a better more perfect Union.) Freedom requires vigilance, just as you protect our country from threats abroad, we as the People must do our duty to protect our country domestically. Together these efforts combined is what truly protect our freedom, not what some politically elite fool thinks just because he feels he can exploit others.


Epyon
 
As I said neither you or I are empowered by the constitution as the arbiters of what is and isn't constitutional. I think it has pretty much been solved that those who take the interpretation and enforcement of the constitution to themselves end up either being imprisoned or buried.
 
STLRN are you implying...

That one should not question their government? That one should not try to educate themselves of the laws pertaining to the country they live in? Then who's job is it to mete out what the Constitution is or is not? The government and courts? (remember government is picked by money not votes these days, and courts are appointed by government, so where are the People in all this?)

As I said neither you or I are empowered by the constitution as the arbiters of what is and isn't constitutional.
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You're right... neither you and I are... but EVERYONE is. That's the point of the Constitution. Even the Decleration of Independence has issued to the People that if we are not satisfied with our government we fully reserve the right to chage it be it by legislation or by force in order to establish better government.

I think it has pretty much been solved that those who take the interpretation and enforcement of the constitution to themselves end up either being imprisoned or buried.
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Of course, look at the Civil War, but without such bloodshed slavery abolishment and civil rights would've never come. Everyone wants peace but when people are fed up with being told by governments what to do, and tyranny rears its ugly head it is the DUTY of the People not just the military to change the government by force when needed. If say there were a rebellion by dissatisfied Americans in significant numbers because of their government, they would have every right to rebel. Would they be killed or taken prisoner? Yes, but they would be fighting for a greater cause than what any political official in office wishes to pass in order to further his agenda.


Epyon
 
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