"I don't play. ... I don't play." LEO gone wild

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"What is it when an officer bruises your child?"

Do we have hard evidence the bruise, or bruises, was caused by the officer? The student was at school all day. Maybe it happened on the playground or while waiting for the bus.

Nah, the cop is a scumbag and needs hanging now. Verdict first, trial later.

John

P.S. - "She later was treated for a bruise at Mease Countryside Hospital, her parents said." I know my bruises don't pop up immediately - more like the next day. Sounds to me like the parents are angling for payoff.
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+1 John
I've been getting bruises for almost 40 years and never had to be "treated" for a bruise even when I was riding bmx, riding motocross and kickboxing. He must have had the G.I. Joe gung fu grip modification to create a bruise requiring hospital treatment.
 
Don: This article may have overplayed the bruise situation and the girl's parents may have made too much of a deal over a little skin discoloration but still, people have died from compartment syndrome and it's much more likely in children. While rare, if my daughter was manhandled by a police officer and had a large bruise on her arm at the end of the day, I'd have the family physician take a look at it. Any responsible parent would do the same.

A bruise on a 13 year old's developing body demands a bit more interest than a bruise on an adult, especially a professional or even amatuer sportsman.
 
I've seen the video. I'm less concerned about the bruise than I am about the abuse of authority.
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I'm confused though. Was this a "for the children" thing or an "officer safety" thing?
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Touchè!
 
>Do we have hard evidence the bruise, or bruises, was caused by the officer? The student was at school all day. Maybe it happened on the playground or while waiting for the bus.<

Funny... I've seen kids taken away from parents for bruises that could have been caused on the playground. Those parents get THEIR verdict before trial. Why should Officer Iblewmytop get a pass?

And the real issue here ISN'T the bruise, but the abuse of authority (not to mention the sheeple conditioning). "Cops always win" or "cops are always right" isn't what I want any kid of MINE to learn, especially today...
 
That says it all. Do we really want LEO's with that attitude? I dont.
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If you don't have that attitude, you need to move on or you're gonna die.

Looked like she was in the passive to active resistance level and he used contact controls, which would be within typical use of force models.
Funny... I've seen kids taken away from parents for bruises that could have been caused on the playground. Those parents get THEIR verdict before trial. Why should Officer Iblewmytop get a pass?
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Your point? Is it, "Standard A is wrong, therefore we should apply it elsewhere."?
 
>Your point? Is it, "Standard A is wrong, therefore we should apply it elsewhere."?<

You miss the point: there shouldn't BE a "standard A", as that denotes a "standard B". Last time I checked, that was refered to as a "double standard"...

And again: the bruise is NOT the big issue here. It's sheeple training, pure and simple. There WAS a time when cops got respect by earning it, instead of fear by using "contact controls"... :rolleyes:
 
I bet

The girl said more than that she didn't do it. I bet she was running her mouth and wouldn't shut up. Teenagers do that...think they are 'it' and when you tell them to be quiet they just keep yelling. I'll bet then the cop said either be quiet or I'll handcuff you and pull you out of this bus...and guess what? she kept talking.. Just a guess...but once you say you are going to do something, you better do it.
 
The voice of totalitatarianism

Destructo declares:

"Looked like she was in the passive to active resistance level and he used contact controls, which would be within typical use of force models."

So denying a false accusation now constitutes "passive to active resistance" warranting "contact controls," is that what you expect us to swallow.

Translation: The girl wouldn't be bullied by the cop's attempt at intimidating her into a false confession, so the cop threw a temper tantrum and dragged her, handcuffed, out of the bus.

And we are supposed to accept this abusive behavior as being "within typical use of force models?"

Seig Heil - and step to the back of the bus! :barf:
 
I bet she was running her mouth and wouldn't shut up.
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Probably was. Typical teenager stuff. Cop probably focused his attention on her and she came back with what some refer to as rightious indignation. Perhaps she made a furtive movement?:rolleyes:

Sounds like the cop was scared of a bunch of kids.

Looked like she was in the passive to active resistance level and he used contact controls, which would be within typical use of force models.
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Dude, you must be joking to defend this guy. Don't you guys ever think outside the box? That's training to deal with criminals not kids. If it wasn't for you guys hiding behind the letter of the law with your staplegun, I'd say the guy just needs a reality check via knuckle sandwich. Since LEO's use the staplegun to staple the letter of the law to kids forheads and parents who have a bruised child (without overwhelming evidence of abuse)...I say sue the prick because if the shoe was on the other foot, there'd be lots of charges filed on a citizen. Tit for tat for punk types who wont think outside the box.

Makes me wonder how many of you LEO's handcuff your children to 'teach em a lesson'. Be honest, you've handcuffed your kids, haven't you?
 
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I'll bet then the cop said either be quiet or I'll handcuff you and pull you out of this bus.
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So you think her 1st Amendment rights were violated as well as her 4th Amendment rights? Good thought.
 
"Sounds like the cop was scared of a bunch of kids"...bingo! and he chose poorly the means of asserting himself.his grabbing is whats going to get him in hot water.there was definatly battery committed in this one.


If this were my child, a trip for an examination at a doctors office would be the first step in documenting the incident for future referance.
 
Looked like she was in the passive to active resistance level and he used contact controls, which would be within typical use of force models.
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Destructo66, the girl was 13 YEARS OLD AND ON A SCHOOL BUS! Did you MISS that part?

She also stood up and declared that SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING! Did you MISS that part too?

To me that sounds more like she was scared snotless already and didn't need "contact controls" being used on her.

Had the cop left her alone, the result would most likely have been the girl would have done nothing further. With a little persuasive prodding, the girl might even have ratted on the person who DID do the dirty deed.

Instead she got beat up by a cop for being a scared innocent bystander.

One good thing out of all of this... The girl will grow up being one more person who distrusts the gov't and law enforcement. One more person who won't automatically assume the gov't is always "right". Maybe even one more person who believes the BOR's actually means something.
 
Sounds like she got mouthy with a cop and found out he wasn't going to take her disrespectful attitude. Maybe her parents should teach her manners and respect for the law instead teaching her to file a lawsuit.
 
Sounds like she got mouthy with a cop and found out he wasn't going to take her disrespectful attitude. Maybe her parents should teach her manners and respect for the law instead teaching her to file a lawsuit
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DonR101395,

Did you BOTHER TO READ the article?

Did you SEE the part where she said she was INNOCENT?

Did you watch the video tape where she was SCREAMING and crying as the cop manhandled her during the "arrest"?

Or did you just ignore those parts because the facts don't fit within your preconceived notion that the cops are always right and just.

Manners, I gotta work on my manners.......:barf:
 
Sounds like she got mouthy with a cop and found out he wasn't going to take her disrespectful attitude. Maybe her parents should teach her manners and respect for the law instead teaching her to file a lawsuit.
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Since when is being disrespectful to a cop against the Law?
 
I love it when the cop is always wrong and the sweet little kid is always right. She could have easily have said "He did it." and pointed to the kid who did it. Instead she screams I didn't do it, gee the prisons and juvenile detention are filled with men and kids who screamed "I didn't do it" as they were being arrested. Maybe we should let them all out since they professed they are innocent and they would never lie to a cop. Try it from the cops point of view. Nearly every person he arrested for nearly twenty years says "I didn't do it."
 
The more fundamental question

"Since when is being disrespectful to a cop against the Law?"

FAR more importantly, since when is denying a false accusation illegal?

Or disrespectful?

Or punishable by assault and battery compounded by false arrest?

Perhaps those prone to knee-jerk apologias for JBTs and rote denunciations of teens can address the foregoing........
 
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