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Handcuffs on 13-year-old 'excessive,' parents say

Video of a Clearwater teen being cuffed on a school bus after shouting prompts her parents to formally complain. Her dad is outraged.

THOMAS C. TOBIN and GRAHAM BRINK
Published November 30, 2005

For the second time this year, a handcuffing is raising questions about the way police handle incidents involving Pinellas County students.

The parents of a 13-year-old Clearwater girl say a St. Petersburg police officer overreacted when he handcuffed their daughter aboard a school bus.

Their attorney today will ask the Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney's Office to drop a charge of disorderly conduct. School officials already have cleared the girl, saying they saw nothing in a videotape of the Nov. 11 arrest that violated the student code of conduct.

The tape shows the officer, Roberto Rolon, boarding the bus along a Safety Harbor roadside after another student threw a hard object, believed to be a golf ball, out a window. The flying object caused a car to swerve and nearly hit Rolon's police motorcycle as he drove home from work.

The tape shows the officer walking to the back of the bus after the girl, Ashley Marie Mitchell, stands and shouts that she was not the student he was looking for.

Moments later, Rolon approaches the girl as she again denies involvement. The tape shows him twisting the girl's arm behind her back and marching her to the front of the bus as he says, "I don't play. ... I don't play."

The girl was handcuffed to a railing in the bus stairwell while Rolon tried to find out which student threw the object. A 13-year-old boy later confessed.

The bus was filled with students from Safety Harbor Middle School.

"The video speaks for itself," said Clearwater lawyer John McGuire, who is representing Ashley. "I have three children myself close to that age. I wouldn't be happy either if I were the parents."

Luis Mitchell, the girl's father, said she might have used a "lower tone" with the officer but showed no disrespect.

"To arrest my daughter and put handcuffs on her - I think that was a bit excessive," Mitchell said. He said he was outraged when he saw the tape for the first time Monday. School officials released it as the parents pressed for details of their daughter's arrest.

"I support her 100 percent," Mitchell said. "There's no crime in standing up and saying, "I didn't do something."'

The family has filed a formal complaint against Rolon, but no lawsuit is planned, Mitchell said.

The episode marks the second controversy this year over a St. Petersburg police officer handcuffing a student while in the care of the school district.

In March, a videotape showing officers handcuffing a kindergartener at Fairmount Park Elementary School made international news and sparked a vigorous debate over child discipline.

It also brought policy changes in the Police Department and school district that limit when officers can interact with students. School superintendent Clayton Wilcox was scheduled to view the tape of the latest arrest this morning.

"I'm at a loss for words," Luis Mitchell said Tuesday. "I can't even believe that a police officer would actually handcuff my child just knowing what has happened recently with the St. Petersburg Police Department."

Department spokesman George Kajtsa said a complaint by Ashley's parents has prompted an internal investigation by the traffic bureau where Rolon is assigned. Bureau-level investigations are used for less serious alleged infractions, such as an officer's use of profanity.

Kajtsa said police officials could not talk about what happened once Rolon got on the bus, since the incident is under investigation. In such cases, an officer could face a reprimand and potentially time off without pay, depending on his prior history, Kajtsa said.

Rolon, 43, has been with the St. Petersburg Police Department since 1982. He has received several letters of appreciation from the public and a handful of formal commendations from the department, including one for his handling of a homicide case.

Last year, Rolon was the subject of an internal affairs investigation for pushing a rookie officer and using profanity during a training session, Kajtsa said. He received a notice that went in his file.

In 2003, a bureau-level investigation sustained an allegation that Rolon tried to prevent a man from closing a door on him by putting his foot in the door, a violation of department procedure. He received a written memo, Kajtsa said.

Later that year, another bureau-level investigation concluded that Rolon grew frustrated with how a probationary officer was dealing with a situation and tapped his foot as a signal of his displeasure, Kajtsa said. Rolon received a verbal reminder to use nonphysical communications in the future.

On Nov. 11, Rolon was driving home from work on Ninth Avenue near Withlacoochee Street in Safety Harbor on his department-issued motorcycle, according to Kajtsa.

A Cadillac swerved in front of him nearly hitting his motorcycle. The car stopped on the side of the road, where the driver explained that something hard had been thrown from a yellow school bus traveling north on Ninth Avenue.

Rolon pulled the bus over and explained to the driver what had happened.

After handcuffing Ashley, he tried for several minutes to find out who threw the object. The boy who later confessed has since moved to Germany.

Ashley was turned over to the Sheriff's Office, which patrols Safety Harbor. Deputies handcuffed the girl again and called her mother, who came to pick her up at the scene. She later was treated for a bruise at Mease Countryside Hospital, her parents said.

In the videotape, as no one steps forward to claim responsibility for throwing the object, Rolon tells the students he is disappointed in them. He tells them he knows their parents and that his own children attend Safety Harbor Middle.

He lectures them on how to behave in the presence of a police officer.

"When any law enforcement officer tells you to do something or not to do something, you do exactly what you're told," Rolon said. "If you do something different, you're in violation. ... I'm not one of your kids. I'm not one of your homies. I'm not one of your friends. I am not afraid of any one of you or all of you put together. And if you want to play with me I will play back.


"And law enforcement officers always win."

Luis Mitchell said that sounded like officers are above the law.

"I don't agree with that," he said. "We're talking about children here."

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/11/30/Tampabay/Handcuffs_on_13_year_.shtml
 
Well if she really did throw the ball out the window then she gets what she deserves. Ive been pelted by various things thrown by students out the windows, thankfully they only been paper wads so far and most schools dont seem to be doing anything about it. Ive know people who throw rocks out the window and they can serisouly hurt people.
 
Massan, she stood up and said she DIDN'T throw anything yet she was cuffed for that.

Someone ELSE confessed to throwing the object.

Thus, she didn't "get what she deserved". She got part of the punishment someone else deserved based on NO evidence of guilt, and lots of evidence of innocence.

In other words, a cop who went overboard to control a situation that was not out of control in an effort to assert his "police authority" over children.

Me - I'd sue for the officers termination, a bad letter in his file for severe misconduct, a MEANINGFUL apology, and mega bucks for damages to my kids psyche.

From reading the story, it looks like a good cop who has developed a problem which needed dealt with after the prior incident/letter of reprimand. It also looks like a police force that needs proper leadership and direction as well as a GOOD housecleaning.
 
>"When any law enforcement officer tells you to do something or not to do something, you do exactly what you're told," Rolon said. "If you do something different, you're in violation.<

Be a good sheep, and nobody gets hurt...

> ... I'm not one of your kids. I'm not one of your homies. I'm not one of your friends. I am not afraid of any one of you or all of you put together. And if you want to play with me I will play back.<

Wow... just, wow...

>"And law enforcement officers always win."<

In the short term. This is why we have civil suits. I think "excessive use of force" or "wrongful imprisonment" might be good terms to use here...
 
I can understand that the guy may have been having a bad day but I don't think someone with that attitude should be wearing a badge.

I lived in St Petersburg, good town.
 
I think "assault and battery" might be a good start on this one.


... "I'm not one of your kids. I'm not one of your homies. I'm not one of your friends. I am not afraid of any one of you or all of you put together. And if you want to play with me I will play back" wow is right, this guy has some issues and certainly doesnt need to present this image to the public.

"And law enforcement officers always win."when situations such as this..nobody wins.

I think his day is about to get worse.
 
"I'd sue for the officers termination, a bad letter in his file for severe misconduct, a MEANINGFUL apology, and mega bucks for damages to my kids psyche."

I think you're overeacting more than the officer did.

I really like the part of the report on how the student was treated for a bruise. I'm 55 and I've never met anyone who was treated for a bruise.

John
 
I think you're overeacting more than the officer did.


NO. The officer needs to be fired, charged with assault. People like that do not need to wear badges.


"And law enforcement officers always win."

That says it all. Do we really want LEO's with that attitude? I dont.
 
Well a bruise is technically a form of internal bleeding. There are a variety of blood conditions in which even the lightest bruise can cause severe tissue damage. Plus, on children bruises tend to be far more painful and there's a much larger chance of damaging nerves and muscle tissue. While it's rare, compartment syndrom can occur which is life threatening if surgery to remove excess pressure isn't performed.

Not saying that it's the case here but for all we know that bruise covered half her forearm.
 
I really like the part of the report on how the student was treated for a bruise.

I am sure you did like it. The bruise should not have happened. But hey, LE always wins, so who cares about a bruise that was the result of an assault.
 
How about firing the bus driver for failing to control the students? Why would she stand up and blurt out I didn't do it unless she had a guilty concience and knew exactly why the cop was there? Fire him why? For being pissed that some punk tried to kill him by throwing a golf ball out a window? How about this, file charges against the kid who threw it for attempted murder, filing charges against the girl for accessory or conspiring since she reasonably knew who threw it and failed to report it to the officer and fire the bus driver for failing to control the students and charging her with littering. This whole idea of sueing everytime your little baby is treated what you consider poorly is a crock. Life is tough it's even tougher when you're stupid.
 
For being pissed that some punk tried to kill him by throwing a golf ball out a window?
Nobody gets the luxury of being pissed and acting on it. Cops certainly don't have the luxury of arresting anyone who pisses them off.
How about this, file charges against the kid who threw it for attempted murder,
You're going to have a hard time convicing a jury that a 13-year-old planned to kill someone by throwing a rock out of a window.
filing charges against the girl for accessory or conspiring since she reasonably knew who threw it and failed to report it to the officer
She wasn't arrested for that, or for obstruction of justice. She was arrested because the cop thought she did it, and the cop should have known better than to view a statement of inncence from a 13-year-old girl as the product of a guilty conscience.
and fire the bus driver for failing to control the students and charging her with littering.
You're assigning a lot of blame here...
Attempted murder and conspiracy and littering for the boy, accessory and conspiracy for the girl, failure to control students for the driver... why not assign just a tiny bit of blame to the cop for being a jerk?
 
Fire him why?

Are you serious? Did you skip over the bits in the article that show us that this man is a horrible cop and shouldn't be in a position of authority to anyone?

Attempted murder? Yeah, that makes about as much sense as suing for psychological damages. Give me a break; if even half the things in that article are accurate, that cop needs to lose his job and his pension.
 
Lets face it man: An officer of the law especially a game warden has a really hard row to hoe but often some make it worse by over reacting like this and that is why those who are gonna have the awsume power associated with being an officer of the law should face vigerous and indepth screening, including psycological evaluations before being granted that power. Its too bad that many just graduate from "taxi driver" or political favor. Nothing wrong with being a taxi driver, just using as an example.
 
I brought all of those up to show there are two sides to everything. I'll never understand this culture of lawsuits and placing blame. Mistakes are made everyday, it happens. The bottom line no one was hurt and maybe some kid will remember getting the snot scared out of them and not pull another stunt like this again. I see this as the cop is being portrayed as the bad guy and all he did was try to drive home after work and to nearly killed by an idiot kid who thought it would be funny to throw a golf ball out of a bus. If he had done nothing then a whole bus full of kids would see that this is perfectly acceptable to throw things out a window at a car and start using the excuse of "Jonnie did it and the car almost hit a cop he didn't do anything so I figured it was ok."
 
"I think you're overeacting more than the officer did."

"NO."

Yes.


"While it's rare, compartment syndrom can occur which is life threatening if surgery to remove excess pressure isn't performed."

Like I said, I've never known anyone who was treated for a bruise. It must be rare. Thanks for agreeing.

John
 
Sorry Don, life is 10% what it throws at you and 90% how one reacts to it. The cop acted poorly and had a greater responsibility towards correct behavior being both an adult and an LEO.

I'm confused though. Was this a "for the children" thing or an "officer safety" thing?:rolleyes:

Fair's fair also. When a parent bruises a child, it's usually prosecuted as abuse. What is it when an officer bruises your child? To be routinely overlooked and not challenged? Uh huh.
 
It's rare but when it concerns a child and it's caused by an adult, it should always be treated. A small bruise is almost alays nothing, but a large one tha would've most likely have been caused by the officer's overly aggressive grip would probably need to be checked out, just in case.

I'd do the same if it were my child.
 
"What is it when an officer bruises your child?"

Do we have hard evidence the bruise, or bruises, was caused by the officer? The student was at school all day. Maybe it happened on the playground or while waiting for the bus.

Nah, the cop is a scumbag and needs hanging now. Verdict first, trial later.

John

P.S. - "She later was treated for a bruise at Mease Countryside Hospital, her parents said." I know my bruises don't pop up immediately - more like the next day. Sounds to me like the parents are angling for payoff.
 
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