Hunting bear with an Ak-47?

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... and a friend with a camcorder somewhere safe nearby so we can all enjoy the youtube video afterwards. lol!

Just kidding! Good luck with your AK and stay clear of the bears. Proper storage of your food when out in the wild does wonders. I have to admit I was tempted recently by an AK in the local classifieds but I resisted since I really had my eye on something else.
 
I just want to know if you were in a situation where you had to defend your life against a grizzly, would an ak-47 be sufficient. I know the hunting laws and ethics.....I just want to know if it would be sufficient.
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Sure beats throwing rocks or shooting it with a 22LR. Hope you enjoy your new toy.
 
Superdave ,
I just noticed you were hoping to trade a shotgun, pistols, a great dane, a pitbull, and a porno collection for an AK-47. I would assume this means you don't have an AK now.
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I've got a Norinco SKS that takes AK mags. Leave the pitbull out and send me some pictures of the Great Dane, we might have a deal. :D I'll probably need a little cash or maybe some ammo thrown in too.
 
if its big game, anything less than the 45-50 cal biggies? would be like swatting a fly off a raging bull and seeing if it reacts...ak's and and sks suck for stopping power, great for "suppressive fire"...

if you want to prove me wrong, i want to see it on youtube or something!
 
its better then nothing but a little werid using the ak47 for a reason such as hunting bear or bear defense. MAYBE if you were at your cabin but if your walking around the bush its not like were in iraq here. if your that worried find a 45-70 lever action marlin. If you want to go a little cheaper then a NEF has a single shot 45-70 with an 18 '' barrel would be easy and compactm, saw one the other day I would of picked it up if I hadnt just bought an ar.
 
I think I'd trade the AK in for a saiga .308. Same idea but a lot more power.

If all I had was an AK and a bear charging then I'd try to make it work. Not a situation I'd try to get myself in.

I do think that bolt action and single shots are poor choices for bear defense, I'd rather an ak with a couple 5 round magazines vs a lever action in .30-30 that holds 4.

And for bear I'd always use soft point if given a choice.
 
self defense-Yes

if it is common knowledge that a 44 mag will defend against a brown bear,then why wouldnt a MUCH more powerful rifle with Alot more ammo?I think its 2-3xs the power of a 44 magnum
 
lol rip off the sleeves put in a dip,oversized sunglasses john deere hat shoot from the back of a truck carelessly,kill all animals and be white trash and rob banks when you cant afford beer--I think thats how the public views alot of gun owners:barf:
 
^^^^^ Huh?????

I wouldn't carry a little 44 rem mag for brown bear, or an AK... My minimum would be a 454 or 12 ga. I don't think the extra ammo in that AK will do you much good either.
 
This thread is absolutely ridiculous. What kind of bear are we talking about? I don't think the 7.62x39 is suitable for any kind of bear but it would definitely be ridiculous for grizzly or brown bear.

For those that say the 7.62x39 is equal to the 30-30 I really get tired of hearing that. While energy wise that is true, the 7.62x39 is designed as an anti-personnel round. The 30-30 uses 150-170 gr bullets for big game. The 7.62x39 comes up very short in bullet weight for hunting purposes. The 7.62x39 is NOT the same as the 30-30 for hunting purposes. I get really tired of people making that claim. Energy isn't everything folks. Actually energy means absolutely nothing when we are talking about bullets with a MV of less than 2500fps. Bullets impacting at around or above 2500fps impart hydrostatic shock on game animals which has an affect on terminal performance. Rounds like the 30-30 and 7.62x39 simply don't have the velocity to reliably cause this. All that matters is bullet expansion and penetration. The 30-30 will outperform the 7.62x39 all day long in regards to bullet expansion and penetration at appropriate ranges for both cartridges. the 7.62x39 uses bullets with a sectional density that is trumped by handgun cartridges for crying out loud. IMO, 30-30 is the absolute minimum in a 30 caliber cartridge for black bear and I simply don't think the 7.62x39 is the equal of the 30-30.
 
I think I'd trade the AK in for a saiga .308. Same idea but a lot more power.

If all I had was an AK and a bear charging then I'd try to make it work. Not a situation I'd try to get myself in.

I do think that bolt action and single shots are poor choices for bear defense, I'd rather an ak with a couple 5 round magazines vs a lever action in .30-30 that holds 4.

And for bear I'd always use soft point if given a choice.
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Csspecs, last I checked Lever Action rifles chambered for 30-30 have a magazine capacity of 6+1 in the barrel. That is 7 rounds. Some of you folks are really misinformed if you think you would get off more than a couple shots on a charging bear. In most cases there simply isn't time for even one well-placed shot. If you have the time to shoot a bear 10 times then you probably weren't in any danger and a game warden will have something to say about it. A bear can chase down a deer. You will not get off more than a couple of rounds on a bear coming at you at 30+ mph. You simply will not have that amount of time to empty AK magazines into a bear. You are better off getting off a couple of shots of ammo that will do the job. I will take a 170gr 30-30 round over a 123 gr AK round against a bear any day of the week. All those AK rounds won't do you an ounce of good if they won't penetrate deep into a bear reliably.

Just because the 7.62x39 has more energy than a 44 Magnum doesn't make it a better choice for bear protection. As I brought up earlier, the 7.62x39 shoots bullets with a completely inappropriate sectional density for large and dangerous game. The 44 Mag will make a bigger hole and has better sectional density than the AK round. The 7.62x39 is an anti-personnel round folks. It doesn't belong in the woods.
 
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Sure, the AK bullets would eventually kill anything but...

1: If a brown/griz charges you from 50 yds at 30 mph you get a whopping 3.4 seconds to put your AK into battery, aim and fire...maybe one or two shots. How much do you practice panic shooting?

2: If your hits are good there is still a good chance that the bear will get to you before it dies because the 7.62x39mm is not designed for dangerous game.

Of course this whole thread is just for fun & all, but no person who is 1/2x smart actually carries a little assault gun in real bear country. I have nothing against the AK47, it's a fun plinker and would do very well in an insurgency. But in big bear country it isn't sufficient.
 
csspecs, last I checked Lever Action rifles chambered for 30-30 have a magazine capacity of 6+1 in the barrel. That is 7 rounds. Some of you folks are really misinformed if you think you would get off more than a couple shots on a charging bear. In most cases there simply isn't time for even one well-placed shot. If you have the time to shoot a bear 10 times then you probably weren't in any danger and a game warden will have something to say about it. A bear can chase down a deer. You will not get off more than a couple of rounds on a bear coming at you at 30+ mph. You simply will not have that amount of time to empty AK magazines into a bear. You are better off getting off a couple of shots of ammo that will do the job. I will take a 170gr 30-30 round over a 123 gr AK round against a bear any day of the week. All those AK rounds won't do you an ounce of good if they won't penetrate deep into a bear reliably.
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Ok lever gun I played with did not 5 in the tube even, it may have been plugged from some reason. I was just under the impression that was the capacity.

I'll agree that most won't get more then a shot off or so with a bear charging. Sometimes the bear is not chasing you but rather a family member or friend. I know of a event like that where a hunter was being chased and his buddy was trying to shoot it before it got him, he fired 6 rounds from a bolt action before he hit it, having to reload once.

I do have a few boxes of 7.62x39 SP 154gr that I have for hunting, so they are out there.

And I clearly stated that I feel its a bad idea and should use .308 instead.
 
123gr bullet at 2200fps is not what you want to stand between you and Eternity. Ruger 45LC with 275LBT at 1100 will make them sick.
 
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