How Much is YOUR Life Worth?

You Guys are a Riot!

Got some chuckles from reading this thread. If I hear "What's your life worth I generally look around for the guys Volvo (supposedly safest car) so I can slash the tires. Not really. I just think the guys a dope because I don't believe there is a direct correlation between price and quality. I don't see that much price difference between a CZ and a Glock and I think Glocks are butt ugly. Sorry Glock fans, just my opinion. I also don't buy that "Glock Perfection" crap either. Not knocking Glock because I have been thinking of buying one, but any gun can have a problem. Also the line "You get what you pay for." sort of annoys me too. It is true if you know what you are paying for. Sometimes part of the price of a high end gun pays for elitism. Which is not necessarily bad. You have something not everyone has. Some people buy Hi Points to say "I got a functional gun for not much money."

I rambled for a while. My guns are better than all yours because they are mine!
 
I usually hear that line being toted out in discussions about defensive cartridges, or a slight modification of it...

"You carry a (insert your cartridge here)??? You must have a suicide wish if you don't carry a (insert tool's cartridge here)."

Most times I hear it it's in discussions between those who carry 9mms vs those who carry .45s.

No one ever volunteers to be shot by any of the supposedly "suicidal death wish puny worthless cartridges," though.
 
Hmm. My helmet only cost$130, but I have to spend atleast $269 S&W m10 for my life.

So, I'm only worth $269? ***.

Btw, I think the Glock pricing here is low, cause real Glock owners know you need a Glock 9 to be legit. With a 9, you would need 2 rounds to out do my XD40. Could make a difference depending on ammo prices!
 
For me it's not so much the cost=worth thing that is so annoying, it's the whole brand=worth idea, though the two are often connected as brand=cost justification. The ONLY handgun malfunctions I've personally witnessed have all been with the perfect, super-reliable, "high quality" guns that are always claimed to be the best choices out there. Absolutely zero problems seen from the cheaper, less fancy, and "poor quality" guns that people often scream to stay away from.

I buy, carry, and shoot what I WANT, not what is "best". ;)
 
I, too, am amused by such discussions. I own a stainless Taurus PT-145 Millennium Pro that I can and do count on to defend my life. It's proven accurate and 100% reliable for thousands of rounds, with whatever I feed it. Yes, I know, others have had problems with them, but mine performs to my specifications every time. :cool:

OTOH, I had a fairly early S&W Model 60 break the cylinder release internally and completely jam the weapon making it useless. Had to disassemble it still loaded to clear it. Fortunately, it happened at the range, not in the middle of a gunfight! :eek:

You may sneer at your buddy's Jennings, Lorchin, (insert weapon of your choice), or Bryco, but if it goes "Bang" when he pulls the trigger, it has the potential to save his life in a "serious social occasion."
 
I, too, am amused by such discussions. I own a stainless Taurus PT-145 Millennium Pro that I can and do count on to defend my life. It's proven accurate and 100% reliable for thousands of rounds, with whatever I feed it. Yes, I know, others have had problems with them, but mine performs to my specifications every time.
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And that is all that really matters.

You may sneer at your buddy's Jennings, Lorchin, (insert weapon of your choice), or Bryco, but if it goes "Bang" when he pulls the trigger, it has the potential to save his life in a "serious social occasion."
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A buddy of mine had a Jennings that was a great shooter. We all expected it to really crap out one day, but after 4 years of shooting it at least once a month, the gun was going strong.

Of course there is the other end of the $ spectrum for defense. As I have been told several times, I should carry something less expensive than my Wilson Combat CQB because if I ever get into a shooting, the cops will take it. The gun is "too expensive to carry," apparently. This is a sentiment sometimes expressed by folks here at TFL, be the guns Wilsons, Baers, a highly engraved Colt revolver "BBQ gun," or any gun that is pricey for whatever reason. So then my life is apparently worth less than $2500 by those who think the CQB was too expensive to carry.

So if we look at the range of prices between the Glock in the OP and my CQB, we now know that our lives are worth somewhere between $459 and $2500 as you apparently should not be carrying anything less expensive than the Glock and my CQB was too expensive to risk carrying for self defense.

What a bizarre way of looking at the world and evaluating your options.
 
Of course there is the other end of the $ spectrum for defense. As I have been told several times, I should carry something less expensive than my Wilson Combat CQB because if I ever get into a shooting, the cops will take it. The gun is "too expensive to carry," apparently. This is a sentiment sometimes expressed by folks here at TFL, be the guns Wilsons, Baers, a highly engraved Colt revolver "BBQ gun," or any gun that is pricey for whatever reason. So then my life is apparently worth less than $2500 by those who think the CQB was too expensive to carry.
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Well said. I've also seen this many times. A couple of my carry guns are at the upper end and it never occurred to me not to carry them for fear of police seizure. I like/shoot them better and that's enough justification. On the other hand, I also have carried some "budget" handguns that fit my needs. I never thought I was endangering my life because of the price tag.
 
Generally you get what you pay for, but not always. I recently picked up a used S&W 915 9mm for only $265. Yes, that's half the cost of a new Glock around these parts, and this pistol will protect me every bit as well as a Glock (or Beretta, or SIG) will. There is a lot of low-quality junk out there, but in my experience there's some high-priced crap on the market as well so you can't let price alone influence your decision-making. There are also a lot of good deals out there, you just have to stay off of Gunbroker!
 
There's always a happy median. Money spent vs quality achieved is no different.

Nothing is black and white.

There are just as many thousand dollar customs that have issues as there are couple hundred buck tack driving ol faithfuls.


There's extremes and middle ground.

I prefer a comfortable middle.
 
But there is a reason you never see anyone who actually gets paid to use a gun for a living use one...Considering how few CZ's are actually sold vs how many end up in for repairs means a high percentage are causing problems..
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Global statement, rejected for inaccuracy, and blatant grandstanding - tell me, oh high wizard, how many CZs go into the shop for repair work every year and how many are sold, exactly? You just said you know, so enlighten me.:) Ignoring use outside of the United States, you will find not that many police depts issue CZs, however I personally know one US police chief who carries a CZ-75, and I still have the paperwork authorizing my CZ 75 P-01 as my official off duty pistol. Sorry you had such a bad time with your pistols, but your experience is FAR from the norm.

Back to the OP, your life is worth what you can pay. For a single mom struggling to keep food on the table, her life might be worth a Raven .25 auto, and I remember reading just how such a cheap pistol saved one womans life, in the hands of her son, IIRC.
Others might be able to afford one of those use J&G Taurus 38 revolvers, not because they think their life is worthless, but because balance has to be found between bills, and you can't put salt on a pistol and eat it, iron content is too high.
 
armoredman said:
... how many CZs go into the shop for repair work every year and how many are sold, exactly? You just said you know, so enlighten me.
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jmr40 said:
... Considering how few CZ's are actually sold vs how many end up in for repairs means a high percentage are causing problems.
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armoredman, you're need to help me here. I don't see where jmr40 said he knows those statistics.

jmr40, why don't you share with us the basis for your statement quoted above. Since you didn't quote any numbers, just how is it that you know the proportion of repaired vs sold is high for this brand?
 
I was out last week with friend I had never shot with before. I had my CZ P01 and he had his Glock. I had 100 rounds of reloads and put them on the table for him to use. He had a number of FTF and every time he ejected the round, I would drop it into my CZ and it went bang. I went so far as to load one in my LC9 and it went bang. The question is, did I do a crappy job of reloading (I have run probably 500 rounds through my CZ without incident) or is his Glock picky (he told me he had only run factory ammo through it). If you find a gun that feels good, eats anything you put into it and you have confidence in it, who cares what it costs. Hell, Kimber is even having it's issues as of late.
 
here's a thought. go head to head with one of those high dollar pistol snobs until one gun or the other fails. no cleaning, no maintainence once the competition starts. each uses the same caliber and same ammo they can shoot their 2 grand wonder pistol, you can shoot your $300 taurus or other brand, match them shot for shot until one of the guns fails to fire. any manner of malfunction what so ever, stove pipe, ftf, light primer strike, limp wrist, any failure at all. loser pays for all the ammo used by both guns. i would be very interested in the results especially if 10 people did this or 100 people. my money would be on the so called "cheap peices of crap" outlasting these expensive wonder guns more than 50% of the time. i would expect much more than 50% of the time actually.
 
And if you won the bet you could get your SHIFT key fixed. :D

You don't need a wonder keyboard, just one that works.
 
Taurus makes $700-800 revolvers.

Taurus.

$700-800

Price is not the same as quality. My Ruger LCP is <$300 and I trust my life to that little guy.

That said, at least middle-of-the-road price GENERALLY can be linked to quality, just not in every case.

The guy at the range was a fool.
 
Double Naught Spy said:
I can't afford me. I am not sure that anyone makes a gun that costs as much as my life is worth.
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^This.^ Unfortunately, even if someone made one, I couldn't afford a gun worth as much as I value my own life.
 
A rather stupid question, but it is sometimes asked by those who do not like your choice of guns. I usually carry a KT P3AT. I don't know what my life is worth, but I am satisfied to carry the KT due to its small size and weight.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Jerry
 
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