how much gun control do you want?

My latest idea is to have prospective gun owners aquire a certification which allows their background (criminal record and mental health) to be verified. This could be updated at intervals. Then they owner should be able to buy the weapons they want (with no records). If the owner is "safe" then the number or type of weapons is irrelevant.
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When citizens have to acquire a certificate to allow them to exercise their rights they are not rights but privilages and they are no longer citizens but subjects.

The only check should be to insure that you are not presently incarcerated, which should be a fairly easy check even for the most unobservant gun dealer
 
I was trying to be pragmatic. There will always be some form of gun control. Having a certificate would help to silence those against guns and at least be an attempt at keeping guns in safe hands, while reducing the hoops you have to jump through to get weapons.
We can debate what a "right" is all day, but felons and those deemed a danger to themselves or others by a qualified doctor should not own guns, and every effort should be made to ensure this is the case.
 
Gun controle

For full autos I feel that the law on the books is good as it stands. If you cant afford the tax stamp and cant pass the background check you dont need one. Crinimals cant afford the price of admitance to the auto world unless there stolen.
As for every thing, its been proven over and over that gun controle does not work unless you use it to KILL bad guys, and I am not trying to make a joke.
The hardest gun law states (Like in DC) have the worst crime, and its also been proven that where guns are allowed and CC permits are allowed to law abiding citizens, crime decresses.
What we have to do as a country is get togther and call our congressmen and senators and tell them to stop the crap on making guns harder for us that are law abiding people and make it harder for crinimals to get guns, how do you do that. Put the scumm in jail for long terms.
Or kill them, I'm ok with ether.
 
Exactly. Its about time that laws were made by people who actually know what they are talking about, instead of what will win votes :barf:
 
Absolutly none for anyone over the age of 18 and no forms or background checks of any kind.
Restrictive laws only create a larger illegal trade in guns.
Gun control of any type is unconstitutional and it will cause more violent crime not less.
If our state or fed. government has the ability through passing laws to remove anything from the possesion of citizens.
Then why are ALL types of illegal drugs plentiful in our largest cities and our smallest towns.
Gun control is feel good politics and thats about all.

Just the opinion of one hillbilly
 
We can debate what a "right" is all day, but felons and those deemed a danger to themselves or others by a qualified doctor should not own guns, and every effort should be made to ensure this is the case.
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Why?
If they arethat much of a danger to others why would they not be in my excluded group already
 
You said "incarcerated" - is that what you are referring to? Now I dont know exactly how the mental health care system works here, but it may be feasible for someone who fits my description to not be incarcerated. As far as felons, I'm talking about a lifetime ban.
 
As far as felons, I'm talking about a lifetime ban.
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I disagree. They pay their debt they get a do over. If they can't be trusted to act responsibly in polite society they should not be allowed back into it.
People with mental disorders are something that I am not educated enough to comment on but it would seem that if they are indeed dangerous they should also be under some sort of extreme supervision also
 
Strike off all Federal legislation and regulation pertaining to the private purchase, possession, sales, transfer and use of firearms.
 
Is there a background check when you buy a chainsaw? How about a baseball bat? Anyone with a frame of mind to do someone else harm is going to use whatever is at their disposal to accomplish their goal. To me a gun is a tool, nothing different from a pair of pliars. So make me wait for a week next time I go to Home Depot and see if it makes a difference whether I kill someone with a length of chain or a pry-bar...

Make firearms training a required skill in everyday life. Violent criminal behavior would have less prey to feed upon.
 
The control that I want keeps criminals from getting guns and allows non-criminals to own firearms if they so desire. That is all.
 
Mandatory safety training, that's it.
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I'm an advocate for mandatory marksmanship classes and firearms handling classes in public schools. But that's not what you mean is it? A lot of folks say that and they really mean something like the hunter safety courses which seem to be taught every third full moon when it falls on the second Sunday of the month, between the hours of 3 and 5 AM. Great in theory but unaccessible to the masses. :(
 
I was trying to be pragmatic. There will always be some form of gun control. Having a certificate would help to silence those against guns
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Bulls#!t. Nothing will silence "those against guns." They are irrational. Nothing rational will silence them. They disregard reason and cling to hysteria for their rationale. You think that doing something "reasonable" but symbolic will actually stop their incessant ranting for gun bans?? :rolleyes:

Why throw concessions to someone who will not stop until you have nothing left to concede?

and at least be an attempt at keeping guns in safe hands, while reducing the hoops you have to jump through to get weapons.
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"At least be an attempt"? This sounds suspiciously like hand-wringing "we have to look like we're doing something that we get from the left and from political bureaucrats all the time.

NOTHING is worth doing if it is done merely for APPEARANCES and has no practical use.

-blackmind
 
Free surplus rifle & ammo + training(if you want it), supplied by the gov. That would be the best gun control one could ask for. As for anything else, whatever you want, delivered right to your door.

A WWII vet told me that EVERY American should have a M1 Garand and 200 rounds of ammo at home, to protect themselves and the country should the need ever arrive.

Seeing how that came from someone who fought in Europe during WWII, I would treat the above as gospel.
 
Hey, Blackmind, lay off the coffee. I think we can both differ in opinion without getting testy and resorting to #@!*
It would be a pretty boring discussion forum if everyone had the same opinion ;) Oh I guess that makes me a troll for not towing the line all the time? Great introduction to the shooting community so far, thanks :rolleyes:
 
Consider this point of view. How would you stop terrorist from taking over a jet plane. You can't do it by disarming. The only effective way is to hand everyone that passes through the gate a firearm. Who is going to attack a plane when they know that everyone on board is able to take action.
 
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