How Many Spare Mags?

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hmmm...

...and your point is?
You equate your spare tire with your carry ammo?
Look dude, do what you want...there were no guns available at Columbine. The one person that had a weapon handy at the church stopped it...No shooters cried and died because of lack of ammo...
If you wanna' climb the box about why...go for it...
We were talking about spare ammo and now you're off into disasters that it didn't apply ...have fun...
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And is that logical?
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No. It's also irrelevant. The logic of satellite arguments does not affect the logic of the central question.

Here's what you're saying, in essence:

"Criminals are illogical, guns laws are illogical, therefore I must carry an extra magazine."

It's like saying "Dogs don't like cats therefore I must go fishing."

The logic of the situation doesn't dictate the NEEDS within that situation. The guy in those church shootings was clearly an illogical psychopath yet he was stopped with less than 1 mag worth of bullets, as are most situations.
 
I must be a skitzod then...

for carrying 2 spare mags. I don't expect to need them, but mags get dented, ect. I like having a couple extra, and if you wind up being that 1 in 1 billion that happens to need it...well better to have it already. Just part of being prepared IMO. :cool:
 
yet he was stopped with less than 1 mag worth of bullets, as are most situations.
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By your statement, are you are saying that you actively and consciously choose not to be more fully prepared...because you didnt write "ALL situations"?

What I am saying, for the umpteenth time, is that when one plans for a situation, which we are doing when we choose to arm ourselves, we should plan for any as many situations as possible...and needing a reload, while more remote than actually needing a gun in the first place, is STILL a very real possibility. Do the benefits of carrying a spare mag outweigh the risks of not carrying one?

And yes, I do equate carrying a spare magazine the same as keeping a spare tire in the car. I just might need it. Not having it could potentially make a annoying situation a life threatening one.
 
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What I am saying, for the umpteenth time,...
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What I'm saying is that there has to be a limit to that preparation. Otherwise, we're all driving armored cars and wearing kevlar. Since we're not, pretty much everyone agrees with me, including you, unless you ARE driving an armored car.


On the spare tire issue? Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I have a car that I use for drag racing that I don't keep a spare tire in, even when I drive on the street. Am I concerned that I don't have enough tires with me when I drive? No.
 
What I'm saying is that there has to be a limit to that preparation.
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We got that the first time. I am waiting on why you consider carrying a spare mag beyond the limits of what you consider proper preparation.

I have a car that I use for drag racing that I don't keep a spare tire in, even when I drive on the street. Am I concerned that I don't have enough tires with me when I drive? No.
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That proves nothing because you still run the risk of being stranded by the side of the road with a flat tire whether you're concerned or not.
 
Carry one spare mag, with FMJ. Gun is loaded with JHP. Don't have a BUG, yet. Don't have anymore mags, yet. Prepare how you want, I know if I draw my weapon and fire I want as many rounds as possible with me. As soon as I get more mags I'll load another and carry it. I'll be getting a back up revolver as soon as I can afford it. Ideal carry would be my 870 with plenty of amo, but that's hard to conceal, and impractical to open carry everywhere-I don't like cops pointing guns at me, the guy with the shotgun buying groceries at the city market. Bad guys and cops prepare for how much amo they think they'll need, usually a lot is better than a little. I feel it's prudent to do the same myself. If my neighbor carries one six shooter with no reloads that doesn't bother me, I'm bothered if I don't have my spare mag on me.
 
Peetzkilla its a little hard to follow your logic, if the SHTF I would rather have Creature with his extra mags near me. That is my logic.
 
Peetzkilla its a little hard to follow your logic, if the SHTF...
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Yep, so would I. However, I'm willing to bet that the S will not hit the F to that degree. I'm not saying that you shouldn't carry spare mags. In fact, I've said do whatever you want. What I'm also saying is that the odds of ever needing them are vanishing small. So ridiculously vanishingly small that it makes me think people that are uncomfortable not having a spare mag are a bit paranoid. It's really simple. Carry your spare mags. Really, I don't care but if you go to dinner with your wife and find yourself thinking "Damn, I forgot my extra mag...damn, damn, damn I hope I don't need it." Well, then you might be a little paranoid.

I'm also trying to explain that we are all drawing a line in the sand somewhere. Some people think that simply carrying a gun is crazy. Some people think carrying a spare mag is unnecessary. Some people want to wear kevlar to go to the grocery store. SOMEWHERE before the kevlar vest (in America anyway) logic ends and paranoia begins. Now, I don't necessarily think a spare mag is paranoid but it crosses cleanly into the "I'll likely never ever need it in 3 lifetimes" category.
 
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The odds of my needing the first bullet in my CCW are probably .001%, the odds of needing the last one in the magazine are probably .000001%.
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You need some more math. To wit: Statiscal Probability
While only one in one million may need that last round, that does not mean it won't be you.

As someone once said, it's not the odds, it's the stakes.

And yeah, it's your choice. Please choose wisely. :rolleyes:
 
Typically one reload for whatever I'm carrying.

In my truck there is a P97 in a floor safe. There's often also an 870 in a locked case.

My truck door pockets are full of shotgun shells leftover from various hunts in the last year or so. I could hunt anything from doves to deer with whatever I find in there.

My truck console also tends to catch the spare mags and or speedstrips/speedloaders that I cast off in my daily travels.

My truck is well armed typically......:D.
 
My .02:

If you carry a gun you should carry a reload for the same reason as you should carry magazines topped off-----Why wouldn't you? I agree you can take this to the nth degree and my perspective is skewed by being a cop and having a different outlook than a CCW holder. I "look" for trouble always and if I should find it I will handle it, even off-duty, although the ROE change.

Carry what you want. YMMV
 
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I carry Hydra Shok or Gold Saber in my primary CCWs and carry a spare magazine of Gold Dots. If it comes to the reload, I want a bonded bullet to penetrate more in case I need it. I typically carry a BUG, Kel Tec P32, with Cor Bon and no spares unless it's my primary for some reason. In that case I'll add a 10 Round KT mag of Cor Bon.
 
For CCW I'll usually just carry whatever is in the gun, and use all the same ammo, no mix. I don't worry too much about getting attacked by a tiger, so I don't carry around a .416 Rigby. The chance of needing the spare mag is less than getting attacked by a tiger, so I don't carry around one of those either. It is not a big deal either way, IMO. Carry one if it makes you feel good, don't worry about it if it is a hassle. Either way works out.
 
spare mags

The Police Officer that stopped the Utah mall shooter was carrying a .45 pistol downloaded to six rounds. I believe he fired at least 2 rounds at the bad guy. Since he did not have any spare magazines, he started to worry about stopping the bad guy. During a post incident interview with "Law Enforcement" magazine, he stated every one should carry spare ammo. I carry one spare magazine. When I'm on an overnight trip, several spare mags along with an extra weapon. Call me paranoid, but when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
 
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