How Many Spare Mags?

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So just in case there's a Hollywood shootout type situation, you are prepared with several high powered rifles in your vehicle?

Apparently some of us do...for starters, wildalaska, by his own admission, keeps a rifle in his truck.

Saying there has to be a logical limit to your preparations makes me an "anti"?

Nope, just pointing out how your verbiage is quite similar to what antis use in their arguments for gun control.

That's why I'm different than an anti. I don't want to take away your right to be as paranoid as you want to be. I just choose logic over fanaticism. You do what you want.

Are you saying that not preparing for the illogical is logical?

Many here on TFL choose to carry a pistol "to be prepared". How is carrying a gun, loaded with a limited number of rounds, considered being prepared for certain situations that may require a reload? Why is carrying a pistol not considered "paranoia" but carrying a reload is considered fanaticism?
 
So just in case there's a Hollywood shootout type situation, you are prepared with several high powered rifles in your vehicle?

I wouldn't call a .223 "high powered" but I keep a Mini-14 loaded with 5 spare mags for it in my truck at all times.

Currently wearing my tinfoil hat. :D
 
wildalaska, by his own admission, keeps a rifle in his truck.

Wildalaska lives in Alaska. Wildalaska travels outside of Anchorage, sometimes in the winter, where there isnt even a flush toilet for 75 miles or a phone for 50. Alaska is subject to severe weather and earthquakes, so he keeps some survival stuff in his truck too. His rifle is part of that survival gear.

Wildalaska doesnt keep his rifle in his truck because he is going to netrambo terrs in the shopping mall.

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So, everyone agrees then that there is a logical limit to preparing for a SD situation.


The next question becomes "Where is that logical line drawn?"
The exact line will be different for each of us, that difference is based almost entirely on the likelihood and type of trouble in the areas we frequent. I'll go back to the odds. None of us knows exactly what those odds are, but I'll give it a shot.

Needing to draw CCW in a lifetime- 1:1000
Needing to fire the weapon- 1:10,000
Needing to fire more than 1 or 2 roounds- 1:100,000
Needing to fire more rounds than are in the smallest of typical weapons (I'll say 5)- 1:1,000,000
Needing to fire more rounds than are afforded by a single reload- 1:10,000,000

Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that these numbers are close to right. How far down that list to YOU logically need to be? I'm gonna say 3rd on the list covers my entire life span and then some. Like I said before, you all do what you want.
 
I think you guys should stop focusing on carrying rifles in your cars and spare mags and simply focus on your speed and accuracy.

Look at this guy with the six shot 38 special. Wildalaska can carry as many assault rifles in his truck as he wants. The point is that he wont get within a foot of his truck if he is gunned down. All it takes is a fast draw and an accurate shot.

1 Ole Guy from Mississippi able to hit 4 targets reload and hit the 4 targets again in 3 seconds with a wheelgun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og9ccsb1v6o

10-15 Sheriff officers with assault weapons firing off multiple rounds and could only hit the suspect's arm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ummnOoSfd54


I think we just need the ole guy from Mississippi. Thats why they always made that guy the Sheriff in all those western movies.
 
Wildalaska can carry as many assault rifles in his truck as he wants.

Wildalaska doesnt want to be stuck someplace in the middle of winter after a devastating 9.0 earthquake without one :D

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So, everyone agrees then that there is a logical limit to preparing for a SD situation.

No..not really. I dont.

There is no logic when it comes to a SD situation, so how can one logically prepare for that entirely singular and unique occurance? You would know this if you had ever been in one.

My point is that I am not willing to gamble my life on your one in ten million chance occurrence and have prepared for the occurrence as if it will happen today by carrying a reload.
 
well that depends....

today my off-duty carry is a RIA 1911A1 .38 Super. 9+1 in the gun and two 9 round magazines. If I'm carrying my Colt Cobra I'll carry one speed loader and one Bianchi strip for two reloads. If its the Glock 29 one spare magazine. I don't feel "right" without at least one reload.

I read a fast food shoot out report a few years ago that involved an off-duty officer who had his young daughter with him. They walked into a fast food restaurant and yes, into the middle of an armed robbery; 2 perps. He had a semi-auto with one 12 round magazine and 1 in the chamber and no reloads. In the ensuing gun battle the officer emptied his gun - without knowing if both bad actors were down. Fortunately it worked out ok - one bad guy down, a worker shot (not fatally and by a bad guy not the cop), and the 2nd perp out the door and caught a block or two away...with a loaded gun.

The off-duty officer's biggest fear was that without any more ammo there was not a thing he could do to protect his daughter (and himself) if the other bad guy came at him with a gun....

My off-duty plan is a defensive posture; shoot my way out of trouble; but if for some reason I have to defend myself and not be able to get to safety I want to make sure I have enought ammo to hold out until help arrives.
 
No..not really. I dont.

There is no logic when it comes to a SD situation

I didn't say the situation was logical. It is not. It can't be. Logical people don't attack other people for money or drugs or anger or fun.

I said our preparation for it has to be logical. It HAS TO BE. If it's not we'll have the scenario I outlined above with armored cars and body armor.
 
geez Louise...

...if I have to think about whether I'm armed enough to go somewhere, I just don't go...
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I said our preparation for it has to be logical. It HAS TO BE. If it's not we'll have the scenario I outlined above with armored cars and body armor.

Okay, then why do you say that my reasoning for choosing to carry a reload is illogical and fanatical? Have there NOT been church, mall and school shootings in the US in recent memory?
 
i got the pistol. mags at the house, mags on the desk at work, and mags in the console if i need to score on crack street.;)...otherwise i usually leave the mags in the car when i want moon pies and dog biscuits.

if i was an off duty police...maybe id have a different way of looking at percentages.
 
I'll bet that isn't what those church-goers in Colorado or the teachers at Columbine were thinking...


The church situation was resolved by 1 guy who fired less than a full mag of rounds. Columbine could have easily been the same. I'm not advocating NO guns. I've advocating logic.
 
well...

...actually, it was one woman...let's just say one shooter...
And OBTW...you can't carry anything on most school grounds here...No,
They weren't thinking OMG I shoulda' had a spare mag...
I think the point is that you have to decide for yourself what you need...
I don't need anymore weight than one mag for the places I go...YMMV...
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And OBTW...you can't carry anything on most school grounds here

And is that logical?

They weren't thinking OMG I shoulda' had a spare mag...

My guess is that some were. I bet that at least some VT students where wondering that very thought as well as why they aren't allowed to carry a legal CCW on campus.

But getting back to that spare tire issue...
 
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