Hollywood: When was the last time you saw a gun portrayed in a positively in movies?
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Good movie but it certainly did not paint guns in a good light. It was a collcetion of mobster on mobster gun violence with some of that violence spilling over onto and innocent wife and boy.
Well done movie but nothing redeeming about guns appeared in it. Even Tom Hanks, the "good guy" was a merciless mob enforcer who had killed many men. ONly through his son were we able to see the other side of him.
IndianaDean
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Red Dawn
trigger happy
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they were using Thompson's on Raptors in "King Kong"
IndianaDean
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I'm an idiot, how could I forget:
Firefly and Serenity
Firefly and Serenity
VaultDweller
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Not even Zombie movies Roy?
My Statement
I realize my boycott of Hollywood seems silly. I also know that it makes makes little or no difference in the greater scheme of things. But, the majority of those folks want me to give up my hobby. They use their money to help politicians with a like mind. It seems to reason that if I pay money to see a movie, and some of that money goes to Gore, or Fienstien, or Moore, then I am literaly shooting myself in the foot.
As most of you know, I live in California. So their in influence is even greater. Our state doen't need anymore of their help. They will not get any help from me.
I realize my boycott of Hollywood seems silly. I also know that it makes makes little or no difference in the greater scheme of things. But, the majority of those folks want me to give up my hobby. They use their money to help politicians with a like mind. It seems to reason that if I pay money to see a movie, and some of that money goes to Gore, or Fienstien, or Moore, then I am literaly shooting myself in the foot.
As most of you know, I live in California. So their in influence is even greater. Our state doen't need anymore of their help. They will not get any help from me.
And 90% of what you buy these days is made in China with part of every dollar you spend on it supporting the Communist regime there. Abandonning all movies gets you written off as a statistical nut by the Hollywood decision makers. Avoiding certain stars DOES have an impact. Disney cut Alec Baldwin loose when he lost public appeal for being a nut job. Remember that Baldwin had just starred in The Hunt For Red October and as a result lost out on Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger.
Musketeer
You have a valid point about money going to China.
But, their government is not trying to take my guns or ban game hunting. Politicians are doing that. Office holders need financial contributions in order to campaign. Hollywood types give money to politicians that I am opposed to. Therefore, I refuse to help by not purchasing their product.
Remember, these are the same folks that are callling our president a traitor. These are the folks that think the Saddam is just a misunderstood fellow. These are the guys that contribute to PETA. I can go on, but my time is limited this morning.
I absolutely believe in free enterprise. You can spend your money anyway that you see fit. Likewise, I'l try to put my money where my conscience dictates.
You have a valid point about money going to China.
But, their government is not trying to take my guns or ban game hunting. Politicians are doing that. Office holders need financial contributions in order to campaign. Hollywood types give money to politicians that I am opposed to. Therefore, I refuse to help by not purchasing their product.
Remember, these are the same folks that are callling our president a traitor. These are the folks that think the Saddam is just a misunderstood fellow. These are the guys that contribute to PETA. I can go on, but my time is limited this morning.
I absolutely believe in free enterprise. You can spend your money anyway that you see fit. Likewise, I'l try to put my money where my conscience dictates.
an old movie, but saw it last night for the 1st time in ages.
Harley Davidson & The Marlboro Man.
One uses a Desert Eagle .44, the other a Ruger Super Redhawk in .454
Great movie. Baddies in body arour with what look like modded mp5's.....
Lots of shooting and gun references...
Harley Davidson & The Marlboro Man.
One uses a Desert Eagle .44, the other a Ruger Super Redhawk in .454
Great movie. Baddies in body arour with what look like modded mp5's.....
Lots of shooting and gun references...
Here is an email I rec'd some years ago. The updated URL is http://eiconline.org/issues/gv/depiction.php
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>----- Original Message -----
>> From: <press@gunsafe.org>
>> To: Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Hollywood's anti-gun agenda
A Gunsafe member sent us this info about the Entertainment Industries
Council, which urges movie makers to use movies to promote anti-gun
misinformation and outright lies. [Thanks, Mike D.]
The Entertainment Industries Council http://eiconline.org/violence/ has
a very complete anti-gun agenda underway.
Despite publishing a study by ASI that among other things shows...the
most effective on-screen scenario for making firearms attractive was
found to be their use in self-defense, rated as making guns "somewhat"
or "much more desirable" by 42% of the respondents. The next most
enticing depiction, a "justified shooting", was chosen by 24% of the
sample.
http://eiconline.org/violence/focuson/vol1/3.html ...
.. the EIC recommends to filmmakers that they...
Consider the story potential that may exist in a family filing suit
against a gun manufacturer for injuries or death sustained by a
defective firearm that misfired.
Consider reflecting the reality that homeowners often freeze up or
tremble so badly when trying to use a gun in self-defense that they are
unable to deploy it. Or show them as being too frozen in fear to even
get the gun.
Attempt to provide a positive role model by showing parents making gun
safety inquiries of other households where children visit, asking about
storage, accessibility, and so on.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet1.html
Consider depicting the reality that women are far more likely to be
shot by husbands or lovers than by an intruder. Odds are that a gun in
her home will be used against her rather than in her defense.
Consider occasionally having "junk" guns misfiring or jamming at
critical times, as these guns are prone to do so after a period of use.
Consider depicting people as feeling less safe, rather than more safe,
when they find their neighbors becoming increasingly armed.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet2.html
Consider highlighting the fact that teenagers often act impulsively and
the presense of guns may increase the likelihood that a transient
emotion may turn into a fatal event.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet3.html
Consider having a character use a gun in what he/she believes is
self-defense only to be charged with murder or manslaughter because
it's determined that excessive or unjustified lethal force was
deployed. http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet4.html
Try making the point that having guns in the house may actually
increase the possibility of home invasion robbery since firearms are an
attractive target for theft.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet5.html
Comments can be sent to Mailto:eic@eiconline.org
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>----- Original Message -----
>> From: <press@gunsafe.org>
>> To: Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Hollywood's anti-gun agenda
A Gunsafe member sent us this info about the Entertainment Industries
Council, which urges movie makers to use movies to promote anti-gun
misinformation and outright lies. [Thanks, Mike D.]
The Entertainment Industries Council http://eiconline.org/violence/ has
a very complete anti-gun agenda underway.
Despite publishing a study by ASI that among other things shows...the
most effective on-screen scenario for making firearms attractive was
found to be their use in self-defense, rated as making guns "somewhat"
or "much more desirable" by 42% of the respondents. The next most
enticing depiction, a "justified shooting", was chosen by 24% of the
sample.
http://eiconline.org/violence/focuson/vol1/3.html ...
.. the EIC recommends to filmmakers that they...
Consider the story potential that may exist in a family filing suit
against a gun manufacturer for injuries or death sustained by a
defective firearm that misfired.
Consider reflecting the reality that homeowners often freeze up or
tremble so badly when trying to use a gun in self-defense that they are
unable to deploy it. Or show them as being too frozen in fear to even
get the gun.
Attempt to provide a positive role model by showing parents making gun
safety inquiries of other households where children visit, asking about
storage, accessibility, and so on.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet1.html
Consider depicting the reality that women are far more likely to be
shot by husbands or lovers than by an intruder. Odds are that a gun in
her home will be used against her rather than in her defense.
Consider occasionally having "junk" guns misfiring or jamming at
critical times, as these guns are prone to do so after a period of use.
Consider depicting people as feeling less safe, rather than more safe,
when they find their neighbors becoming increasingly armed.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet2.html
Consider highlighting the fact that teenagers often act impulsively and
the presense of guns may increase the likelihood that a transient
emotion may turn into a fatal event.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet3.html
Consider having a character use a gun in what he/she believes is
self-defense only to be charged with murder or manslaughter because
it's determined that excessive or unjustified lethal force was
deployed. http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet4.html
Try making the point that having guns in the house may actually
increase the possibility of home invasion robbery since firearms are an
attractive target for theft.
http://eiconline.org/violence/tipsheet5.html
Comments can be sent to Mailto:eic@eiconline.org
Hollywood loves guns. Guns are Hollywoods bread'n'butter.
They're portrayed in the way that they'll sell movies. Good vs Evil. Battles ensue... shoot-outs... etc.
Lets not forget the multitude of movies which show the good guy arming himself (displaying guns as an equalizer) to go battle the bad guys. He's outnumbered... and he prevails. That's not negative - that says you should be a CC-permit holder to level the playing field.
What do you expect them to do? Make a movie about IDPA, throw in some drama, 4-rule reminders, and a love interest?
What should urk you are the individual actors who make millions using guns in their films - as these action packed tough guys - and then go speak in favor of more gun control, and/or how evil firearms are in our society.
They're portrayed in the way that they'll sell movies. Good vs Evil. Battles ensue... shoot-outs... etc.
Lets not forget the multitude of movies which show the good guy arming himself (displaying guns as an equalizer) to go battle the bad guys. He's outnumbered... and he prevails. That's not negative - that says you should be a CC-permit holder to level the playing field.
What do you expect them to do? Make a movie about IDPA, throw in some drama, 4-rule reminders, and a love interest?
What should urk you are the individual actors who make millions using guns in their films - as these action packed tough guys - and then go speak in favor of more gun control, and/or how evil firearms are in our society.
Best current TV example has to be "24" - Jack Bauer does some seriously deadly work for 'good' with his pistol(s). He executed a muderer in the season opener, and even the "naive" california kid at his side understood why eventually (as he watched other bad guys execute hostages).
Most any movie made, directed or written by John Milius. Of course he used to sit on the board of the NRA, not sure if he's still in that position though. I see from the link he has a new western out next year. He was responsible for Clint's "make my day" line in Dirty Harry and Robert Duvall's "smell of napalm in the morning" line from Apocalypse Now. One of my favorite lines was from Jeremiah Johnson - "He was looking for a Hawken gun, .50 caliber or better. He settled for a .30, but damn, it was a genuine Hawken, and you couldn't go no better.