I go camping in U.S Forest Service campgrounds adjacent to U.S wilderness areas (maybe backpacking next year?). My typical routine is to take 2 or 3 off-trail hikes per day to fish, explore, take pictures, etc. Occasionally I get negative comments, right in my face, from the anti's such as WHY ARE YOU CARRYING THAT GUN? in a rude (not inquisitive) manner. While tempted to respond "f--- you", I always ignore such comments. When I encounter others at the trailhead, I go out of my way to be pleasant with the hope that they will have a positive memory of someone who carries. Anyone else get these in-your-face comments from the anti's while camping?
Hikers/Campers: Comments from the anti's?
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Robert the41MagFan
New member
You should see what they say when your doing Mach 2 on a mountain bike in a widerness trail. 
Robert
Robert
Say in a whisper loooking arounnd as you do
"haven't you heard big foot has been seen in the area".They will shut up either from fear of you being crazy of or will believe you.Either way you got them.You can add to statement as you see fit to depending on them.
This kind of thing is a ball and can be tailered to any situation.
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Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
"haven't you heard big foot has been seen in the area".They will shut up either from fear of you being crazy of or will believe you.Either way you got them.You can add to statement as you see fit to depending on them.
This kind of thing is a ball and can be tailered to any situation.
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Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
Glenn E. Meyer
New member
Tell them you heard on the radio that there was a warning of an escaped rapist-cannibal in the area. Authorities were suggesting caution and not to carry fava beans and chianti.
As KOG said, you can't please everyone, so don't even try. Here's an example:
There was an old man, a boy, and a donkey. They were going to town and it
was decided that the boy should ride.
As they went along they passed some people who thought that it was a shame
for the boy to ride and the old man to walk. The old man and boy decided
that maybe the critics were right, so they changed positions.
Later, they passed some more people who thought that it was a real shame
for that man to make such a small boy walk. The two decided that maybe they
both should walk.
Soon they passed some more people who thought that it was stupid to walk
when they had a donkey to ride. The man and the boy decided maybe the
critics were right so, they decided that they both should ride.
They soon passed other people who thought that it was a shame to put such a
load on a poor little animal. The old man and the boy decided that maybe
the critics were right, so they decided to carry the donkey.
As they crossed a bridge they lost their grip on the animal and he fell
into the river and drowned.
The Moral Of The Story:
If you try to please everyone, you will eventually lose your ass.
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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
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There was an old man, a boy, and a donkey. They were going to town and it
was decided that the boy should ride.
As they went along they passed some people who thought that it was a shame
for the boy to ride and the old man to walk. The old man and boy decided
that maybe the critics were right, so they changed positions.
Later, they passed some more people who thought that it was a real shame
for that man to make such a small boy walk. The two decided that maybe they
both should walk.
Soon they passed some more people who thought that it was stupid to walk
when they had a donkey to ride. The man and the boy decided maybe the
critics were right so, they decided that they both should ride.
They soon passed other people who thought that it was a shame to put such a
load on a poor little animal. The old man and the boy decided that maybe
the critics were right, so they decided to carry the donkey.
As they crossed a bridge they lost their grip on the animal and he fell
into the river and drowned.
The Moral Of The Story:
If you try to please everyone, you will eventually lose your ass.
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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
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Explorer,
Get a Safepacker holster from Wilderness Tactical.
http://www.thewilderness.com/Pages/home.html
Provides total protection for your pistol, it is not readily identified as a holster (looks like a pouch to hold a GPS, leatherman, mag-lite, etc.), and fits anything from a one inch belt to a hip belt for a Gregory backpack. Yes - you are essentially carrying concealed, but you could get a CHL to take care of that issue.
As for needing a gun in the great outdoors, my list of reasons seems to pick up new items all the time. Some all-time favorites are:
Rabid Raccoon in USFS campground. Yuppies trying 911 on their cell phones - no coverage. JohnDog tries 1911 - end of problem.
End of 4 day backpack trip. Out of trees to trailhead (at end of 12 mile forest road), come upon three guys smashing windows and robbing cars(including ours!). One of them starts towards us with tire iron - out comes old slabsides again. Short discussion about benefits of them leaving vs. staying. They choose leaving, we get licsense, they get picked after we report to sheriff.
Pack of 4 coyotes attack my dog while we're hiking. Two shots in air from GP100 gets coyote/malamute seperation. One shot into lead coyote gets coyote dispersal (and dead coyote).
And don't even get me started on mountain lions!
Get a Safepacker holster from Wilderness Tactical.
http://www.thewilderness.com/Pages/home.html
Provides total protection for your pistol, it is not readily identified as a holster (looks like a pouch to hold a GPS, leatherman, mag-lite, etc.), and fits anything from a one inch belt to a hip belt for a Gregory backpack. Yes - you are essentially carrying concealed, but you could get a CHL to take care of that issue.
As for needing a gun in the great outdoors, my list of reasons seems to pick up new items all the time. Some all-time favorites are:
Rabid Raccoon in USFS campground. Yuppies trying 911 on their cell phones - no coverage. JohnDog tries 1911 - end of problem.
End of 4 day backpack trip. Out of trees to trailhead (at end of 12 mile forest road), come upon three guys smashing windows and robbing cars(including ours!). One of them starts towards us with tire iron - out comes old slabsides again. Short discussion about benefits of them leaving vs. staying. They choose leaving, we get licsense, they get picked after we report to sheriff.
Pack of 4 coyotes attack my dog while we're hiking. Two shots in air from GP100 gets coyote/malamute seperation. One shot into lead coyote gets coyote dispersal (and dead coyote).
And don't even get me started on mountain lions!
David Roberson
New member
I carry concealed when camping, and for the same reasons I carry concealed in town. No reason to give any information to the forces of evil. They don't need to know who's carrying and who's not.
I cannot get a concealed weapon permit since I live in Jefferson County, CO. The Sheriff here issues very few, I'm guessing none since Columbine. I therefore always hike/camp with my firearm in full view to avoid breaking any laws.
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Mike Irwin
Staff
My reply...
"Haven't you heard about the string of robbery-rape-mutilation murders that have been happening around here?
Probably not, they're working REALLY hard to keep things quite. I know because I'm friends with the coroner who has had the job of sorting out the various body parts and trying to sew the remains together.
Funny thing, though, the hearts and livers haven't been found in any of the cases.
They suspect a Satanic biker gang, so I figured I ought to be ready...
Enjoy the rest of your hike!"
(as they run away, I'm sure to be muttering F****** pansies, under my breath...)
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
"Haven't you heard about the string of robbery-rape-mutilation murders that have been happening around here?
Probably not, they're working REALLY hard to keep things quite. I know because I'm friends with the coroner who has had the job of sorting out the various body parts and trying to sew the remains together.
Funny thing, though, the hearts and livers haven't been found in any of the cases.
They suspect a Satanic biker gang, so I figured I ought to be ready...
Enjoy the rest of your hike!"
(as they run away, I'm sure to be muttering F****** pansies, under my breath...)
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
Gunslinger
Moderator
Some responses:
I carry a gun to protect defenseless tenderfoots like you.
A better question is why aren't you carrying a gun in the woods.
Because it is my right to do so.
Bite me!
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Gunslinger
I carry a gun to protect defenseless tenderfoots like you.
A better question is why aren't you carrying a gun in the woods.
Because it is my right to do so.
Bite me!
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Gunslinger
Mike in VA
New member
Roger that, Gunslinger.
Conventional wisdom imparted to me long ago was that before one goes unarmed into paradise, one should be real, real sure that that is indeed where one is. I ain't found it yet.
M2
Conventional wisdom imparted to me long ago was that before one goes unarmed into paradise, one should be real, real sure that that is indeed where one is. I ain't found it yet.
M2
Claemore70
Moderator
Drop them and bury them out there. LOL. Just kidding!
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"Vote with a Bullet."
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"Vote with a Bullet."
RHC,
The safepacker has a pretty ingenious belt loop system, and yeah they don't explain it very well on their site. It allows for a regular 1 1/2 inch belt, but also allows (via velcro) for big loops - like a pack waistband. It is secure because it uses the top flap to connect via a quick release buckle. Maybe they could explain this better than I just did over the phone. Key point is it works good. It also has loops along the top end, which I hook a strap to and sling it around my neck and under my left arm while fishing. With my vest over the top, I look like another fly fishing enviromental-wacko. Allways try to blend in - I say
JohnDog
The safepacker has a pretty ingenious belt loop system, and yeah they don't explain it very well on their site. It allows for a regular 1 1/2 inch belt, but also allows (via velcro) for big loops - like a pack waistband. It is secure because it uses the top flap to connect via a quick release buckle. Maybe they could explain this better than I just did over the phone. Key point is it works good. It also has loops along the top end, which I hook a strap to and sling it around my neck and under my left arm while fishing. With my vest over the top, I look like another fly fishing enviromental-wacko. Allways try to blend in - I say
JohnDog
Bullwinkle
New member
Re: Safepacker Belt Loop. It will help if you are looking at a picture of the thing
( www.thewilderness.com ).
The BL is a 3 inch wide strip of cordura reinforced with somthing stiff (kydex?) that is permenantly fastened on the back side of the holster, very near the top. From the perm attachment point at the top it runs down, under the bottom of the holster where it attaches with velcro under the flap portion of the holster. The bottom half (part) of the fastex buckle that closes the holster flap is afixed to the loop about where it runs under the bottom of the holster pouch. The net effect is a three inch wide loop that will accomodate a 6 inch wide belt (G26/27 version of safe packer). By opening the buckle and pulling the velcro the bottom of the loop is released and can be threaded through a belt, strap, or hole (like a compression strap on a pack, fixed portion of a pack belt support, molded vinyl hand hold on the inside of a car door) that is otherwise in accessable at an end. Be creative, if its not more that 6 inches wide or an inch or so thick you can fasten the holster to it. There is velcro between the back of the loop and the back of the holster so that the 6 inch wide loop does not create too much instability.
Hope that helps.
P.S. I'm not affiliated or anything. Just have a SP and like it.
P.S.S The SP serves pretty well as a gun rug too.
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( www.thewilderness.com ).
The BL is a 3 inch wide strip of cordura reinforced with somthing stiff (kydex?) that is permenantly fastened on the back side of the holster, very near the top. From the perm attachment point at the top it runs down, under the bottom of the holster where it attaches with velcro under the flap portion of the holster. The bottom half (part) of the fastex buckle that closes the holster flap is afixed to the loop about where it runs under the bottom of the holster pouch. The net effect is a three inch wide loop that will accomodate a 6 inch wide belt (G26/27 version of safe packer). By opening the buckle and pulling the velcro the bottom of the loop is released and can be threaded through a belt, strap, or hole (like a compression strap on a pack, fixed portion of a pack belt support, molded vinyl hand hold on the inside of a car door) that is otherwise in accessable at an end. Be creative, if its not more that 6 inches wide or an inch or so thick you can fasten the holster to it. There is velcro between the back of the loop and the back of the holster so that the 6 inch wide loop does not create too much instability.
Hope that helps.
P.S. I'm not affiliated or anything. Just have a SP and like it.
P.S.S The SP serves pretty well as a gun rug too.
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