hiding your house guns (undermount magnets?)

Keeping your guns locked up when you're not home is just the responsible thing to do. A criminal could easily kick in a door, ransack your home, and be off with a bunch of your stuff before the police show up, If anyone even saw the break in and called the cops. It's not your fault if someone robs your house but don't you want to make it as hard for them to get your gun as you can? I'm not just worried about something that cost me a lot of money, I'm worried because now a criminal has a gun and what he'll do with it.

I just keep a gun with me all the time. I don't have to worry about accessing a gun that's already out.
 
Let's get something straight here, if a CRIMINAL comes on my property, breaks into my locked house and steals my gun, I AM NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM!
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Tell you what: I'll give you that, but only after you give me this:
if a CRIMINAL comes on my property, breaks into my locked house and steals my gun and shoots me with it, I could have taken a more active role in preventing him from shooting me with my gun if I didn't have it "hidden" in the downstairs crapper
 
I have seen these "gun magnets" before, and I like the idea as much as you do. I need to order a few.

CA, so no CC, so I am not gonna put on a holster and walk around the house.

I have a gun in near everyroom and kitchen fairly hidden.

This would be a much better way.
 
While I mostly agree with carrying a pistol in a holster while one is at home...

What about getting to your shotgun(s)? I spend most of my time in just two rooms of my house and I want a shutgun handy in both rooms.

Regarding carrying all the time... I live alone and often walk around the house nekked at night. No worries... I have good window covers because I don't want anyone to go blind or insane. Where would I keep a handgun? Please don't get smart-alecky.:D
 
^ I live alone so I'm in my boxers all the time. I just carry my glock 17 out to the living room and set it down next to me. When I leave the room I pick it up and carry it in my hand, everywhere.

If you're at home than locking them up isn't as important since you're there guarding them so-to-speak, so long as you keep one within arms reach.
 
I for the most part agree that there are few good hiding places. Unless you spend time fabricating a "professional" hidden compartment, chances are that your favorite hiding place isn't that great.

However, I once heard someone at a gun show mention something that is worth thinking about. He said he doesn't have a safe but instead hides of all his guns. His reasoning is that the truly violent criminal knows that the contents of a safe must be more valuable than the safe, and may take a hostage (in his case, he is worried about the girlfriend) and demand that the safe be opened. Hiding them, even though most of them may be easy to find, does not create the huge payoff such as a safe. Ironically enough this guy was selling overpriced magnets;)
 
I am most definitely not going to carry a gun on my person when strolling around, inside my own house. That's just me. So that option is out.

Keeping a gun at arms reach in the typical areas that I sit seems perfect (and I am only "in" one of three spots in the house... so three guns are required for this plan.

Most criminals aren't highly trained geniuses. They are fools who want some crap that they can sell. So I will grant you that I will not be able to defeat the hot shot criminal who knows about hiding places.

I doubt that there is ANY criminal who can enter my home, with me in it, that will have any time at all to look for my other hidden guns. He does, indeed, have the advantage on me. His gun is probably already in his hand, but if he doesn't get oriented quickly, I will have the advantage within two seconds.

My next project is to find an exterior alert system that will give me a fair warning "beep" when someone is approaching my house. My preference is to find a laser that, when interrupted, will send a signal. This would be great if, for no other reason, to allow me to put on a shirt before the neighbor knocks on my door!:p
 
ng "beep" when someone is approaching my house
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Yeah that can be handy for a non threat visit. A friend of my wifes came by and as you stated was in my boxers working on my computer and she showed up at my back patio door. No big deal - she commented on my "nice boxers" with a laugh.

Could have used that laser system.
 
It's not your fault if someone robs your house but don't you want to make it as hard for them to get your gun as you can?
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No, I don't. Here's why:

1. My valuable guns are locked up in a heavy safe. I keep a 20 year old Glock 17 for protection in a place I can easily get to - it's worth a few hundred dollars. I'm not going to sweat over losing a 20+ year old Glock 17.

2. My safe is too far away in my house for me to conveniently access - If I left my Glock in it, I would rarely bother to get it out. I need my Glock where it is.

3. If someone kicks my door in robs me, and steals my gun I am the victim. There is no "moral equivalency" here. It's not "partly my fault" if someone gets shot with that gun. No, it is 100% the fault of the dirtbag who steals guns and shoots people - I suppose if you want to attribute some fault to his parents for his criminal behavior, I'd accept that. But, the buck stops there!

Folks, we are going down the wrong road when we start attributing any blame to law abiding citizens when a criminal kicks in doors to homes and robs someone of their gun. I have an absolute right to keep my gun where I can easily access it. A burglar has NO RIGHTS! No rights to enter onto my property. No rights to kick in my door. No rights to enter into my house and no rights to take what belongs to me.

If the citizens of this country do not want to be victimized by criminals, then pass laws that make it easier for victims to defend their property and more lethal for burglars to mug, assault, break-in and steal. And demand that your neighbors arm themselves and fight back against dirtbags.
 
Why not just have a biometric safe? Easy access for you and it's secured from anyone not programmed in.
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A couple of notes on biometric safes, or other type small safes for guns:

1. I have a minivault. I used it for the 1st month that I owned it. It runs down batteries to where I was replacing about 8 of them every month. When the batteries were dead, I'd have to go find my key just to access my gun - the bottom line - it was a PITA, unreliable and had a battery habit worse than a meth addict!

2. If I were a Burglar, I'd simply steal your little biometric safe. Great for keeping kids out - not going to do anything a to keep a gun out of the hands of a criminal.
 
Well, you seem firmly entrenched in your opinion.

Nowhere did it addressed being murdered with your own "hidden" handgun.
 
Nowhere did it addressed being murdered with your own "hidden" handgun
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So, are you suggesting that we all keep our guns locked up at all times so that a criminal can't get to them before we do? Isn't that what the Violence Policy Center advocates? I don't bother hiding my Glock - it's unlocked and not particularly hidden.
 
My understanding is that we should lock our guns up tight when out of the house.

When in the house, carry the gun where ever you are.

So far, I do not have a great locked down place for the five guns that I own and I'm not going to carry a gun around with me. (which is moot because I'm usually sitting in the same location when I'm in the house)

I'm assuming that most bad guys are going to be in a rush to get in and get out of the house. He'll have to check all the usual places before the crazy/clever places. Question is: what's are the best clever places?

Still, I'm far more concerned with being in the house when an armed person enters. That is, I fear robbery more than burglary.
 
I agree people who commit crimes are scum and are solely responsible for their actions. But leaving a gun out because putting it in the safe is inconvenient is just illogical to me. There are probably a dozen options to secure a handgun when the owner is not in control of it.

Every day I sit around in my underwear when I'm not doing anything. I keep my glock 17 within arms reach all the time. If I leave the room I pick it up and carry to the other room with me. If I have to go somewhere and I can't take my gun then it gets put in the safe. Every day I come home from work and I unlock the safe and pull out my gun. It's hardly an inconvenience to me.
 
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A couple of notes on biometric safes, or other type small safes for guns:

1. I have a minivault. I used it for the 1st month that I owned it. It runs down batteries to where I was replacing about 8 of them every month. When the batteries were dead, I'd have to go find my key just to access my gun - the bottom line - it was a PITA, unreliable and had a battery habit worse than a meth addict!

2. If I were a Burglar, I'd simply steal your little biometric safe. Great for keeping kids out - not going to do anything a to keep a gun out of the hands of a criminal.
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I usually pocket carry around the house and my HD gun is mounted to my bed frame. I don't think I would care to have any of my guns unsecured so I don't have a use for the magnets myself.

If you want to keep a HD handgun in a secure and accessable handgun safe buy a heavy duty quality one with a mechanical Simplex style push-button lock. It's going to cost a little more but you can't really compare one that is made from 18ga steel to one made of 11 or even better 7ga. When bolted down they can slow a theif down as much as an average RSC.
 
I keep mine in the holster . . . works just fine for me.

But, the idea of hiding them all over the house has possibilities . . . of course if there were a fire . . . I'd have to probably have an air-pack to retrieve them . . . especially if I was awakened during the night with smoke in the house . . . .

But . . . it all has merit . . . now let's see . . . . where did I put my polymer magnet?
 
Right when I took my glock 21 off the magnet, I could make a staple stick to it... but the attraction was very light.

Sitting on my desk for an hour (not on the magnet), the magnetism is already lost and I can't get anything to stick to it.

Yes, I love the idea of having basically the same gun (glock) sitting in various areas. Familiar gun always ready at hand.

Nothing beats an all day holster, though, if you are willing to do that.
 
I keep one pistol out and ready for business on a top shelf, not easily visible. There is a small safe near the bed with a revolver ready to go. If I work overnight, I invariably come home to find a pistol laying on my wife's bedside table. She feels better with it there and knows how to use it well. We have a duel early warning alarm system...two Jack Russell Terrorists who act like they are 10 times their size. Those dogs have no fear of anything. One even jumped on a Rottweiler. The Rott tore my little guy to pieces.
 
So, are you suggesting that we all keep our guns locked up at all times so that a criminal can't get to them before we do? Isn't that what the Violence Policy Center advocates?
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I am quite obviously suggesting no such thing and detailed more than once in this thread that I do NOT do that myself. I keep a handgun on my person or nearby when I am home, and nearby when I am in bed.

I personally think it's a bad idea that there is any firearm in my house that is out of my direct control and unsecured, or secured by a competent adult that isn't a "dirtbag" intending to do harm. When my bro-in-law, sister, or buddy who carries comes to my home, for the day or over night, I know they carry and I'm quite happy that they keep their loaded handgun with them.

What I won't allow them to do is to leave it in a gym bag or a purse on the kitchen table... much like I wouldn't hide one in a cheap clock designed to "hide" a handgun in my home.

The idea that some dirtbag could enter my home and find a loaded handgun is, to me, beyond ludicrous. It's bad enough that he might bring his own, I don't want to supply one of mine for him.
 
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