If bears are a concern, I'd carry a shotgun to begin with. No thanks to taking on a bear with a handgun. He could get an inexpensive HD length (18" - 20" barrel or so) pump shotgun and put a sling on it to carry it while walking out and walking back. We aren't supposed to have bears in my area but we get them once in a blue moon, and they are the main reason I keep some 12 gauge slugs around, just in case.
Hi Point
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testuser79
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I had a 9mm years back. It was unreliable, can't comment about durability. I gave it to a friend, he didn't have much luck with it, either.
Cheap and reliable, I would go with a revolver. A new Armscor M200 runs about $220. They are maybe $70-$100 more than a Hi-Point. There's also the Armscor M206 snubbie.
Cheap and reliable, I would go with a revolver. A new Armscor M200 runs about $220. They are maybe $70-$100 more than a Hi-Point. There's also the Armscor M206 snubbie.
"being in the industry and having handled hundreds of Hi Points of various types, they are designed as disposable FAs, thus expected to break on a regular basis."
I know of no product that is not designed for some life expectancy. Hi-Points, like every other product, will wear out or break at some point. The question is whether a product is cost effective. I don't need a gun that will work for the next thousand years, only one that will work if I need it, and the evidence is that the Hi-Point will do that.
Jim
I know of no product that is not designed for some life expectancy. Hi-Points, like every other product, will wear out or break at some point. The question is whether a product is cost effective. I don't need a gun that will work for the next thousand years, only one that will work if I need it, and the evidence is that the Hi-Point will do that.
Jim
orionengnr
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If the Hi-Point is in the $200 range (which is what some are supposing) then I would rather have a trade-in S&W .38 Spl revolver.
Buds frequently (or maybe infrequently, but I have seen it several times in the last 6-9 months) has Model 10s of various barrel lengths and dash numbers for well under $300 (usually $249-269).
My LGS semi-regularly gets in Brinks trade-in 4" M-64s, which she sells for the princely sum of $200 each. I have helped her to find new homes for "a number" of them.
PM me and I will put you in touch with her, and she will keep you in mind when/if she gets another batch.
IMHO, best $200 you will ever spend on a firearm.
Did I mention that I have two of them in my safe?
Buds frequently (or maybe infrequently, but I have seen it several times in the last 6-9 months) has Model 10s of various barrel lengths and dash numbers for well under $300 (usually $249-269).
My LGS semi-regularly gets in Brinks trade-in 4" M-64s, which she sells for the princely sum of $200 each. I have helped her to find new homes for "a number" of them.
PM me and I will put you in touch with her, and she will keep you in mind when/if she gets another batch.
IMHO, best $200 you will ever spend on a firearm.
Did I mention that I have two of them in my safe?
wow. we have had a hi point carbine and aa hipoint 9mm pistol for three years and thousands of rounds. they work great, the pistol has the occasional jam with cheap ammo, like 1 out of a hundred or so. the carbine needed a new firing pin spring after about a thousand rounds, since it is designed just like the pistol I would assume it will likely fail after a long period as well. the WORST gun I ever owned was SCCY(four trips to factory, still broken), it is gone, but the hi-point stays(neither ever had a trip out), hipoint is very nice to deal with if you need them, well maybe not "nice", but they'll send you what you need free of charge. if your buddy is looking for a heavy use pistol thats going to see a thousand or two rounds a year, I would suggest a little pricier, S&W Ssd9ve, actually not as accurate as the hipoint, but was built tougher. but for an HD gun that will just be practiced with every couple weeks or a month, I would get the hipoint. if it turns out he really shooting, then he will likely get another gun someday when he can afford a nicer pistol anyways. my brother has used a hipoint as his carry piece for the last 3 years or so, swears by it, he has finally upgraded to a SAR 9mm though
PatientWolf
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I've admittedly no experience with the HiPoint, but if I had a budget limit of $300, I'd probably be looking for a LGS that gets in some good low mileage police trade ins. You will be getting a higher quality level and probably a higher capacity weapon.
Model12Win
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I have a Zasti M70A and it is a great gun for the $200 I got it for. Nice exterior finish, the interior is a bit rough but the gun functions perfectly. Highly recommended... more so than a Hi-Point, though they seem to have quite a following in Ferguson, MO.
Cheapshooter
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One question on the Zastava M70A though. Hi-Points are readily available everywhere. Are these Tokarev copies easy to find.
If the friend is willing to buy on line...
Cheaper Than Dirt and Bud's both have the Zastava M70a for around $225. CTD has been less expensive as of late.
Southern Ohio Gun has police trade-in 38 revolvers as low as $150-$200. I was looking for something else on there last night (CZ70) and happened to notice them.
I have never owned or even fired a High Point, so it would be silly for me to comment on them.
Sees my gun at the range. "(Fill in the blank) are all junk!"
"Did you ever shoot one?"
"No."
"Here, give it a try."
It performs well for the rude stranger.
"How did you like it?"
"They are still junk."
Cheaper Than Dirt and Bud's both have the Zastava M70a for around $225. CTD has been less expensive as of late.
Southern Ohio Gun has police trade-in 38 revolvers as low as $150-$200. I was looking for something else on there last night (CZ70) and happened to notice them.
I have never owned or even fired a High Point, so it would be silly for me to comment on them.
Sees my gun at the range. "(Fill in the blank) are all junk!"
"Did you ever shoot one?"
"No."
"Here, give it a try."
It performs well for the rude stranger.
"How did you like it?"
"They are still junk."
Cheapshooter
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From CTD site.
I did a search, and scrolled through pages of "other" on Bud's site without finding them.
Plus I haven't seen one in a LGS, or at a show. That's why I asked.
I have TT33 variants from Poland, and Romania, and a Yugoslavia M57, the basis of the Zastava M70a. I really like all three, and that 9MM version looks like another great range blaster.
OK, found them under CIA at Buds.
Thanks for getting the worm started Pal! Just when my short list was dwindling.
AIM also SOLD OUT
I did a search, and scrolled through pages of "other" on Bud's site without finding them.
Plus I haven't seen one in a LGS, or at a show. That's why I asked.
I have TT33 variants from Poland, and Romania, and a Yugoslavia M57, the basis of the Zastava M70a. I really like all three, and that 9MM version looks like another great range blaster.
OK, found them under CIA at Buds.
Thanks for getting the worm started Pal! Just when my short list was dwindling.
A shooting buddy, who is also on a budget, bought a hipoint against my strident advice. He's run about a box of rounds through it every month or so for two years, and I've never seen it fail. It's not the most precise autopistol I've ever shot, nor the most pleasant, but it works.
Myh friend said it reminded him of an old Dodge Dart with a slant-6 engine in it, that he drove forever. "It always runs like a piece of crap," he said. "But it always ALWAYS Runs."'
KInda hard to argue with that.
Myh friend said it reminded him of an old Dodge Dart with a slant-6 engine in it, that he drove forever. "It always runs like a piece of crap," he said. "But it always ALWAYS Runs."'
KInda hard to argue with that.
My bad for bringing it up!
I'm trying to decide that, a Taurus PT111, and a B6P compact for my next purchase. I don't have any more room in my tiny safe for a long gun, so a handgun it is. I don't really have a good CCW gun (B6P is decent sized but not compact), but I'm not sure how soon I'll even get my CCW anyway. Plus, I just like the way the M70A looks.
Wreck-n-Crew
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Time to shorten the short list since selling is out of the question?My bad for bringing it up!
MarkGlazer
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I received my Hi-Point 9mm carbine just before Christmas break, tore it down (less than 5 minutes) and reassembled it only to find that it didn't function. Back to the factory, who turned it around (trigger spring) and got it back to me the day before I left on vacation. Bad sign? I hope not.
This past Saturday I was out on the range with my "ugly" carbine and fed it both factory and my own hand loads. It performed flawlessly. What's more, my wife thought it was great to shoot and so did my daughter, who we are just now trying to get comfortable handling firearms. The wife prefers the look and feel of an AR, but she really did enjoy shooting the gun and placed her shots consistently.
I did a great deal of research before I purchased this thing. The overall consensus is simple, the ugliest gun in the world that performs, and performs and performs. Just because it doesn't cost a great deal doesn't mean it can't do the job. There are clearly some sacrifices when buying this inexpensive weapon. Yes it's ugly but looks don't mean much. It is a bit on the heavy side. My only real knock, the only true functional issue that I might gripe about is that I find the magazine to be "cheap" - have to make sure you tilt the bullet upward as you stack your rounds.
Hi-Point has their own forum if you wish to read a multitude of comments, and I suggest you do. I shot well and expect to spend a lot more time with this firearm.
Good luck in your research and future purchase.
This past Saturday I was out on the range with my "ugly" carbine and fed it both factory and my own hand loads. It performed flawlessly. What's more, my wife thought it was great to shoot and so did my daughter, who we are just now trying to get comfortable handling firearms. The wife prefers the look and feel of an AR, but she really did enjoy shooting the gun and placed her shots consistently.
I did a great deal of research before I purchased this thing. The overall consensus is simple, the ugliest gun in the world that performs, and performs and performs. Just because it doesn't cost a great deal doesn't mean it can't do the job. There are clearly some sacrifices when buying this inexpensive weapon. Yes it's ugly but looks don't mean much. It is a bit on the heavy side. My only real knock, the only true functional issue that I might gripe about is that I find the magazine to be "cheap" - have to make sure you tilt the bullet upward as you stack your rounds.
Hi-Point has their own forum if you wish to read a multitude of comments, and I suggest you do. I shot well and expect to spend a lot more time with this firearm.
Good luck in your research and future purchase.
Microgunner
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Don't like them, not for me.
Cheapshooter
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But my short list goes the other way. Spawned by the Energizer Bunny, it keeps going, and going!
go with the pt111, it has thousands of five star reviews. the b6p is an awesome gun, my brother has one, and I know it looks feasible to carry but it is not. I bought the tristar compact(nearly identical dimension as the sar, bit heavier) for carry, I am also buying a pt111 asap. carrying the 75 compact clone gets old really fast. not bad in the winter with under shoulder, but for my 145 6' frame, there is nowhere comfortable for it on my waist.
The first handgun I bought for myself was a $125 used HiPoint C9. It looked and performed like new and I will keep it until I die. I can afford anything I want but why? I followed this "expensive" handgun with a Phoenix HP-22 and then a Heritage Rough Rider. They all perform great and will be around long after I am dead. However, I didn't grown up with handguns and my favorite purchase is my lever action Henry 22 to go along with my Marlin 60 and Marlin 25M. I grew up shooting old single shot shotguns and I have a couple of them that inherited.
I don't LIKE Hi-Point pistols. But I can't hate them either. They work (most of the time, out of the box and almost always if they have been sent back for warranty work).
I had thought about one of their carbines, which have a better reputation than even their pistols do. The magazine construction and capacity is the thing that keeps me from buying one though. If they had one that took Glock mags I'd be all over one.
I had thought about one of their carbines, which have a better reputation than even their pistols do. The magazine construction and capacity is the thing that keeps me from buying one though. If they had one that took Glock mags I'd be all over one.