Hi-point Handguns
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tonyulichnie
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AndrewT
I live in West Michigan and if you ever get this way by all means we can hop over to the range and let you shoot my very own brick err I mean gun ( there I go again jabbing myself).
And I would love to shoot an overpriced gun, I mean I have shot a few Kimbers,Sigs and even an Argus, but any time someone will let me shoot their overpriced guns I am all for it.
That way I can a least say:Hey I shot an overpriced gun and I still own a Hi-Point".
Tony
AndrewT
I live in West Michigan and if you ever get this way by all means we can hop over to the range and let you shoot my very own brick err I mean gun ( there I go again jabbing myself).
And I would love to shoot an overpriced gun, I mean I have shot a few Kimbers,Sigs and even an Argus, but any time someone will let me shoot their overpriced guns I am all for it.
That way I can a least say:Hey I shot an overpriced gun and I still own a Hi-Point".
Tony
Owned...
...one High Point and one Stallard (same thing).
Didn't have a lot of luck with them. My 9C (poly-framed compact) was the only gun I've ever had that FTF'ed 100% of the time with ball ammo, although it frequently would go a magazine or two of JHP's between jams. Diagnosis was an overlong feedramp.
I now tend to stay away from straight blowback guns in calibers larger than .380, especially those with cast slides w/high zinc content. Especially ones that cannot be safely carried w/a round in the chamber.
...one High Point and one Stallard (same thing).
Didn't have a lot of luck with them. My 9C (poly-framed compact) was the only gun I've ever had that FTF'ed 100% of the time with ball ammo, although it frequently would go a magazine or two of JHP's between jams. Diagnosis was an overlong feedramp.
I now tend to stay away from straight blowback guns in calibers larger than .380, especially those with cast slides w/high zinc content. Especially ones that cannot be safely carried w/a round in the chamber.
tonyulichnie
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Tamara
I'm sorry to hear you had problems with the Hi-Point. How long ago did you have that 9mm.
Now I will say that breaking in my .40 and my 9mm compensator does feed better and smoother since I have over 1500 rnds in each one, I have noticed the feed ramp is now smoother than when I first bought them.
And the 10 rnd mags for the 9mm were real tight out of the package, so I purchased 10 - 10 rnd mags for $14.00 and 6 - 8 rnd mags for $10.00 loaded them all up and let them set for awhile. I was told that sometimes softens the springs. Was also told to go thru the bottom of the mag and cut one link out so the spring would be lighter, but I think leaving them loaded up is working. Now my .40 mags had no problem, loaded just fine
( With so many mags though I think I might need a mag loader.....).
Oh and just to pat myself on the back at my last tactical defense seminar in Indiana I attended I got my draw from strong side concelled,sight target,fire,sight 2nd rnd, fire in 4.5 seconds and that was with my .40, hope I can do better, I saw a guy there do it in 2.6 seconds, WOW...and that was with a Sig(Not knocking the Sigs now guys......)
Any wayjust remember if you look thru all the post in TFL you will find lots of problems with lots of guns.
Tony
Oh, and I always carry mine with 8 in the clip and one hot, locked and cocked I guess you would say
Tamara
I'm sorry to hear you had problems with the Hi-Point. How long ago did you have that 9mm.
Now I will say that breaking in my .40 and my 9mm compensator does feed better and smoother since I have over 1500 rnds in each one, I have noticed the feed ramp is now smoother than when I first bought them.
And the 10 rnd mags for the 9mm were real tight out of the package, so I purchased 10 - 10 rnd mags for $14.00 and 6 - 8 rnd mags for $10.00 loaded them all up and let them set for awhile. I was told that sometimes softens the springs. Was also told to go thru the bottom of the mag and cut one link out so the spring would be lighter, but I think leaving them loaded up is working. Now my .40 mags had no problem, loaded just fine
( With so many mags though I think I might need a mag loader.....).
Oh and just to pat myself on the back at my last tactical defense seminar in Indiana I attended I got my draw from strong side concelled,sight target,fire,sight 2nd rnd, fire in 4.5 seconds and that was with my .40, hope I can do better, I saw a guy there do it in 2.6 seconds, WOW...and that was with a Sig(Not knocking the Sigs now guys......)
Any wayjust remember if you look thru all the post in TFL you will find lots of problems with lots of guns.
Tony
Oh, and I always carry mine with 8 in the clip and one hot, locked and cocked I guess you would say
tonyulichnie
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Tropical Z
Hey
I don't know if you have tried these guys out yet for your Hi-Point mags but they keep good stock and great delivery
www.ontargetsportsonline.com/Shooting_Accs/Hi-Point_Accs/Hi-Point_Accs.asp
Tony
Hey
I don't know if you have tried these guys out yet for your Hi-Point mags but they keep good stock and great delivery
www.ontargetsportsonline.com/Shooting_Accs/Hi-Point_Accs/Hi-Point_Accs.asp
Tony
A lot of people carry non-transfer-bar-equipped SA revolvers with 6 beans in the wheel, too. That don't make it advisable.
I wouldn't advise carrying a single-action, striker-fired pistol with no passive or secondary safety that way (and a manual safety with less than positive engagement). Be it a High Point, a Luger or a Baby Browning; it's just the way I've been taught.
Hi, Denfoote,
As I have said before, I am not "defending" Hi-Point. I am only saying that looks and price are not the only considerations in buying a gun, and are not by any means the primary ones.
As to your experience, again I am not defending Hi-Point, but I have seen basically the same comments on almost every brand of handgun made. The much-praised Kimbers have had problems; the supposedly infallible Glocks have had problems; the idolized Browning High Powers have had problems. I don't consider one person's experience to be a reason for condemnation unless that standard is to be applied to all guns.
Do I own a Hi-Point? No. Price is not a factor, but in usable calibers the blowback pistols are simply too bulky and heavy for me. But that is not the same as saying they are bad because they are cheap or no good because they are square looking. Those are disadvantages, but if they work, the disadvantages are outweighed by that simple fact.
A bit like that Gallo wine. If the purpose of drinking wine is to savor it, Gallo won't hack it. But if the purpose is to get plastered (which is the basic purpose of alcoholic beverages), the cheap stuff does as well, costs less, and the hangover is no worse.
Jim
As I have said before, I am not "defending" Hi-Point. I am only saying that looks and price are not the only considerations in buying a gun, and are not by any means the primary ones.
As to your experience, again I am not defending Hi-Point, but I have seen basically the same comments on almost every brand of handgun made. The much-praised Kimbers have had problems; the supposedly infallible Glocks have had problems; the idolized Browning High Powers have had problems. I don't consider one person's experience to be a reason for condemnation unless that standard is to be applied to all guns.
Do I own a Hi-Point? No. Price is not a factor, but in usable calibers the blowback pistols are simply too bulky and heavy for me. But that is not the same as saying they are bad because they are cheap or no good because they are square looking. Those are disadvantages, but if they work, the disadvantages are outweighed by that simple fact.
A bit like that Gallo wine. If the purpose of drinking wine is to savor it, Gallo won't hack it. But if the purpose is to get plastered (which is the basic purpose of alcoholic beverages), the cheap stuff does as well, costs less, and the hangover is no worse.
Jim
Jim,
Point well taken. I try to comment only on things I have experienced. The Hi-Point left a bad taste in my mouth for some reason. I guess it was because I tried so hard to make the thing function and failed.
I too get irritated when prople say things like "Oh, I read or heard that this or that is crap". I don't like 1911's. What soured me on them was a Colt Gold Cup that was nauseatingly similar to my Hi-Point!! Good job it wasn't my pistol!!! 
(You thought "O God, the old Guaro has gotten off on a tangent, didn't you!!!) Point is that Hi-Points are not my first choice for a handgun!!!:barf:
Point well taken. I try to comment only on things I have experienced. The Hi-Point left a bad taste in my mouth for some reason. I guess it was because I tried so hard to make the thing function and failed.
I too get irritated when prople say things like "Oh, I read or heard that this or that is crap". I don't like 1911's. What soured me on them was a Colt Gold Cup that was nauseatingly similar to my Hi-Point!! Good job it wasn't my pistol!!! (You thought "O God, the old Guaro has gotten off on a tangent, didn't you!!!) Point is that Hi-Points are not my first choice for a handgun!!!:barf:tonyulichnie
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I want to thank everyone involved and who responded to this thread with the subject line about Hi-Point handguns, good or bad. Reading the full responses I have seen go from stay away its pure crap to "I had a problem with MY Hi-point".
Do I enjoy my Hi-Point's, you bet. Do I carry my H-Point, you bet.
Respected looks in a gun are "IN the eye of the beholder".
But as operation goes with MY HI-Point's, I am well satisfied and more than impressed with the money spent and what I have gotten out of her.I wish I could put some night sights on her but I have used the bright sight paint to change the colors of the 3 dot sights.For me has been orange glow front and florecent green rear. I am not really that impressed with the ghost ring rear sight, but I havent worked much with it either.
I hope to see more info and talk from other shooters and also from more Hi-Point owners, good or bad becouse I have enjoyed learning more and more about my guns. In looking at over 650 times this thread has been looked at, someone is curious about what is going on with these auto's.
So the next time you see someone walking down the mall with their spouse and you notice that rather large bulge under his right arm and his listing to the right as if he has bad ribs but has a big smile on his face, "He might be carring a Hi-Point".
Did I say that out load.
Tony
I want to thank everyone involved and who responded to this thread with the subject line about Hi-Point handguns, good or bad. Reading the full responses I have seen go from stay away its pure crap to "I had a problem with MY Hi-point".
Do I enjoy my Hi-Point's, you bet. Do I carry my H-Point, you bet.
Respected looks in a gun are "IN the eye of the beholder".
But as operation goes with MY HI-Point's, I am well satisfied and more than impressed with the money spent and what I have gotten out of her.I wish I could put some night sights on her but I have used the bright sight paint to change the colors of the 3 dot sights.For me has been orange glow front and florecent green rear. I am not really that impressed with the ghost ring rear sight, but I havent worked much with it either.
I hope to see more info and talk from other shooters and also from more Hi-Point owners, good or bad becouse I have enjoyed learning more and more about my guns. In looking at over 650 times this thread has been looked at, someone is curious about what is going on with these auto's.
So the next time you see someone walking down the mall with their spouse and you notice that rather large bulge under his right arm and his listing to the right as if he has bad ribs but has a big smile on his face, "He might be carring a Hi-Point".
Did I say that out load.
Tony
Hi, Denfoote,
Since I do own at least one other gun, the Hi-Point is obviously not my first choice either since I don't own one. But I have fired them some (not 60,000 rounds!) and found them reliable. It occurs to me that one thing in favor of a cheap pistol is that if you ever have to use it, it will probably be confiscated. Better a Hi-Point than a $2500 custom job.
Jim
Since I do own at least one other gun, the Hi-Point is obviously not my first choice either since I don't own one. But I have fired them some (not 60,000 rounds!) and found them reliable. It occurs to me that one thing in favor of a cheap pistol is that if you ever have to use it, it will probably be confiscated. Better a Hi-Point than a $2500 custom job.
Jim
Hipoint Carbine
The Hipoint 9mm carbine is a full little carbine. Perfect for shortrange varmiting where I want to avoid eating shot later. The issue I have is adjusting the sites. The front post adjust vertically, and the rear adjusts vertically and for windage. The top cover does have some slop in how it mounts. So don't expect this gun a nail-driver.
You can also attach a scope or red-dot to the top rail.
The Hipoint 9mm carbine is a full little carbine. Perfect for shortrange varmiting where I want to avoid eating shot later. The issue I have is adjusting the sites. The front post adjust vertically, and the rear adjusts vertically and for windage. The top cover does have some slop in how it mounts. So don't expect this gun a nail-driver.
You can also attach a scope or red-dot to the top rail.
I bought one on a whim ...I figured a buck twentyfive wouldn't break me. Yes, I bought it at a gun show. I had never heard of the brand before, but one patron was telling another how much he liked to shoot it so I took the plunge. I must say, it was a heavily trafficked booth and the vendor was busy the whole time I was there. Yes, it's butt ugly, but I find I keep shooting the darn thing. I have another 45 ACP as my primary defensive weapon, but I've taken the Hi Point to the range the last two times I've visited.
The word utilitarian comes to mind. I know it ain't pretty, but it's like a 10 year old pickup truck. You're not going to pick up chicks in it, but you sure can haul a lot of stuff and not worry about denting it. I don't think I'd ever carry anything as heavy as the HiPoint 45, but I think I can stash it in my safe place and depend on it to fire when and "if" I need it.
Russian space vehicles probably won't win any beauty contests either, but they can put a lot of material into orbit. Probably made out of the same material. <g>
The word utilitarian comes to mind. I know it ain't pretty, but it's like a 10 year old pickup truck. You're not going to pick up chicks in it, but you sure can haul a lot of stuff and not worry about denting it. I don't think I'd ever carry anything as heavy as the HiPoint 45, but I think I can stash it in my safe place and depend on it to fire when and "if" I need it.
Russian space vehicles probably won't win any beauty contests either, but they can put a lot of material into orbit. Probably made out of the same material. <g>
spooker609
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I would never be able to get past the image of the one that had a rubber band holding the slide on that we took off of a drug dealer we arrested in DC once. But maybe they've changed since then, still would'nt risk my life carrying one.
tonyulichnie
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Rubber band
Now if I was an officer I would be laughing my *&% off seeing this guy with that Hi-Point made up like that. Must be the drug business just wasnt paying enough. I would be curious to know though if even with the rubber band holding onto the slide , "Would it still fire?". If so I am now very impressed with my Hi-Point's if they would still function under those conditions. I don't know of many guns that would. Thank you for that story, I feel even better about my purchase now. Oh yes, my .40 has over 3000 rnds now and my 9mm just hitting 4000, and no complaints yet.
Thanks everyone
Tony
Now if I was an officer I would be laughing my *&% off seeing this guy with that Hi-Point made up like that. Must be the drug business just wasnt paying enough. I would be curious to know though if even with the rubber band holding onto the slide , "Would it still fire?". If so I am now very impressed with my Hi-Point's if they would still function under those conditions. I don't know of many guns that would. Thank you for that story, I feel even better about my purchase now. Oh yes, my .40 has over 3000 rnds now and my 9mm just hitting 4000, and no complaints yet.
Thanks everyone
Tony