Brotherbadger
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I'd leave one in the chamber. I don't have any kids or anything to worry about though.
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i have a kid. and I understand that people will have different concerns on keeping firearms in the house, I totally respect that. but this wasn't a thread about how to store firearms used for hunting. this was about firearms for home defense. but please explain how ammo stored separately from a firearm could be beneficial in a home defense scenario. I just can't wrap my head around how that works in the real world. I apologize for being rude.
To be more precise, this is a thread about whether to keep a round chambered in a HD shotgun. While a chambered round is more quickly brought into action, one with a full magazine and an empty chamber is almost as readily used. Storing ammo in a separate place can mean that a firearm takes just a bit more time (as when shotshells are kept in a drawer by the shotgun and in such a case I can accept why a parent would make such a choice) or a great deal more time (when the shells are kept in a locked safe on another floor of the house and in that instance I doubt that a HD gun would be of much use).
It is stored with the mag and chamber empty and the five buckshot rounds are in a stock sleeve.
It is not located for easy access, I want to travel a distance to be FULLY AWAKE.
The sound of a shell dropping into the chamber is very loud, followed by the action racking shut. Remaining round are fed into the mag.
Wow youre going to judge someone like this, he didnt ask for you to criticize.My 97 is the hd duty firearm...
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Wow... A Win 97 (with no disconnector) for HD and you state the following?
Are you aware of how fast a home invasion can happen? I've seen YouTube vids of guys who can load (using shotshell speedloaders) a pump shotgun magazine in a few seconds, but that's not me and I'll bet it's not you. With the adrenaline pumping and sleep grogginess/confusion, it ain't gonna happen. Have you tried a similar scenario when you are fully awake and timed it? I bet you would be appalled.
So, now you have to travel to retrieve your shotgun (added seconds after you realize that someone or multiple folks have entered your home, from a location that has no easy access to the shotgun?
That is about the worst urban myth floating around, as if someone intent upon doing a forcible takeover of your domicile is going to be massively intimidated by the sound of you racking a round into the chamber, after you have retrieved your shotgun from a less than easily accessible location and fumbling around trying to load five rounds into the magazine from a stock-mounted shell holder.
I'll bet I typed that paragraph out faster than you could implement your scenario. I'm not a proficient typist; more of a skilled hunt and pecker.
I have no kids/grandkids at home. I have a Rem 870 Wingmaster 20" barrel that has the extended 7-shot mag tube loaded, chamber empty, hammer down, safety off at my bedside. Easily racked and ready to use.
Oh, BTW, it has a trigger disconnector so I can't emulate the guys in "The Wild Bunch" movie in case I get out of control.
It is not located for easy access, I want to travel a distance to be FULLY
AWAKE.
Then it's also a fantasy to think you'll be "awake enough" to get the gun in action before it's too late.Despite all the fantasies and pipedream of how you must have your shotgun ready to run instantly when you are groggy and not awake, the fact is that if you aren't "awake" enough to operate the very simple mechanism of a pump shotgun, you are NOT awake enough to identify your target, or assess a threat.
That's ignoring the "HD" component of the OP's questionRemember the operative word is STORAGE.
Not a repel boarders ready rack.
Round in the chamber or not when storing HD shotgun?
Of course it is. A gun in another room is an HD option. Who are you to judge? Who says he cant get to that room?Then it's also a fantasy to think you'll be "awake enough" to get the gun in action before it's too late.
That's ignoring the "HD" component of the OP's question
A gun stored unloaded in another room isn't much of a "HD" resource
A gun in another room is an HD option. Who are you to judge? Who says he cant get to that room?
Only real option is to be on caffeine pills with a handgun by your side and never sleep. This is the only way some people will feel safe. I will admit i dont live in the safest of neighborhoods but im not going to live my life in fear. Ive had mortars coming in randomly at night before and learned to deal with that anxiety. If someone gets the jump on me back in hometown USA then so be it.True. It kind of depends on a lot of variables. For instance, if at night I am likely in an upstairs BR and hopefully the dog or sounds of a breaking will alert me in time to bring a weapon to bear. If I am downstairs and the front door is suddenly kicked in, keeping a locked and loaded shotgun nest to my bed is not likely to do me any good - even if it were a downstairs BR. I suppose I could walk around the house with an 870 at port arms, but if I thought my neighborhood was so dangerous to warrant such measures I would move out. If I couldn't move out, I would get a handgun with a better drop safety record than shotguns.
Maybe the guy who kicked in the door and has his round already chambered.Of course it is. A gun in another room is an HD option. Who are you to judge? Who says he cant get to that room?