HELP! Can a 40 lover sell off their last 40 to buy a 9?

Keep at least one 40 incase we have another ammo crisis, due to executive orders messing things up.
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You could hold onto a $500 dollar gun on the off chance that caliber is what happens to be sitting on the shelf next scare, or you could sell it and spend $500 on a bulk 9mm ammo purchase. I think I have seen a few floating around $.20/round for decent FMJ, so that would be 2500 rounds. Seems like a much better idea to me.
 
I'd keep the $500 gun. Once you shot up the 9mm then you're out of both the ammo and the gun.

I carry the 9mm but my 40 sticks around.
 
I have at least one handgun in all of the more popular calibers. If there is any kind of ammo around, I will have something to shoot it with.

9mm and 40 and 45 are all good calibers, imho. I am comfortable with any of the three for fun or for emergencies.
 
My only problem with .40 S&W is that the Internet doesn't have a BS mall ninja/commando story associated with the round.

9mm is an weak, dinky, over-penetrating round that will slice through multiple people aka Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade style.

.45 ACP is a slow, heavy, dated round that only requires one round to make someone fly three feet backwards while additionally being stopped by light clothing.

Someone care to make a .40 S&W story? :D

My dislike of .40 S&W is that it was created to fulfill a non-existent need. Why would I want to purchase a .40 S&W chambered firearm when I can get a 9mm or .45 ACP? All three are ballistically similar while the two later are far more commonplace.

.32 ACP isn't competing with .380 ACP these days. Why should 9mm or .45 ACP have to compete with .40 S&W?
 
The 40sw was created because of the 10mm. Some couldn't handle the power of the 10mm so they created 10mm lite later named 40sw.

I have nothing wrong with the 40sw and I like my Sig P250c which handles the 40 like a champ, especially the Underwood 155 XTP and the Hornady 165 FTX.

Yeah, the recoil is sharp but it is a high pressure round just like the 9mm and if you shoot it enough it becomes second nature.

I have an HK USP V1 9mm with the recoil dampening system that makes it sweet to shoot. The pistol was made with the 40 in mind and I'd like to get one in 40. That'll probably easier to shoot than the Sig.
 
The .40cal also filled a particular role at the time of the AWB. With magazines limited to 10rds no matter which caliber you chose, 9mm was losing a PILE of ammo and most .40's were only losing 1 or 2 rounds. And double stack .45's were just not at all popular.

For a period of time, it seemed to make a lot of sense to carry ten .40's rather than 10 rounds of 9mm. And the 9mm had a reputation for not being much a cartridge -- but at least you had a huge pile of them. (until you didn't anymore)
 
The debate continues lol. Lets face it, this arguement is pretty dang close to the same as 41mag, 44mag and 45colt. All three no matter what will always have fans and haters. I own 2 9mm's, 1 40, and 2 45's. What do I shoot mostly? What ever I just finished reloading ammo for. Its kinda like asking a woman why she owns so many shoes/purses lol.
 
I don't even see this as a caliber debate...

The OP is talking about disposing of a Kahr for a CZ...and NOBODY finds fault with this??
That's like disposing of a Corvette to get a Chevy Spark.

Keep the Kahr, you'll be sorry if you don't.
Buy the CZ outright.

FBI just went back to 9mm, guess what ammo will be in stock during another ammo crunch?? 40 Short & Wimpy ;)


Now, to the caliber debate.
Back around '95, we were shown a dashcam vid of an officer-involved shooting.
A Crack'd-out 300-lb man was engauging PD from his front porch & had a Glock with a 15-rd mag...
the five officers, during the firefight, hit the man 17 times, including two head shots with 9mm...
yet the man continued to fire back until his ammo was expended, then threw his gun at the cops,
drew a large knife, and charged at the officers...
whereupon an old Sgt pulled his duty shotgun out & fired two quick head shots at Point Blank range on the charging man,
putting an end to the miscreant.
All On Dashcam.

What was learned from that??
Prefer a heck of a lot more than 9mm when dealing with druggies. Especially a BIG one.
Yeah, seen a .22lr drop a drunk in a parking lot (Boomerzzz O.I.S. in Pensacola, FL), but it sure ain't optimal.
.40 Short & Wimpy?? Might as well if you aren't going to use 10mm or .45acp
Shot Placement is Very Critical, even a moderate head shot can have no real effect, better hit CNS.
If using mouse calibers, Shot Placement, Shot Placement, Shot Placement.

And finally, MUST have a hand-to-hand plan & skills if the shooting doesn't work...
and you better be really good at it. Krav Maga or Aikido is suggested.
But any martial art, practiced regularly, is better than no hand-to-hand training at all.
Even old pharts with nothing but Tai Chi can whoop up on an untrained perp.


Or, be like this gal after taking a 9mm to the arm...
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The OP is talking about disposing of a Kahr for a CZ...and NOBODY finds fault with this??
That's like disposing of a Corvette to get a Chevy Spark.
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Huh?

In what weird, bizarro world is a Kahr P series a Corvette and a CZ 75 SAO a Chevy Spark?

In all honesty, I think the OP is upgrading by getting the CZ, but only maybe going from a Ford to a Lincoln.

I don't like polymer pistols. I keep buying them, hoping they'll pan out, then selling them when I just can't get behind them. My CZ 75s are my go to guns that aren't revolvers.

My Kahr CW9 is the exception. I love it, and it feels so right.
 
Someone care to make a .40 S&W story?
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The 40 does something the 9mm and .45 fail to do. I thought that one was well know:)

The OP is talking about disposing of a Kahr for a CZ...and NOBODY finds fault with this??
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If we were talking about a T, KT, K , or M series I might agree. I just went to Kahr's site ad I think it is worth noting it seems they are no longer producing any steel frame pistols. I didn't realize that.

FBI just went back to 9mm, guess what ammo will be in stock during another ammo crunch??
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I am not sure why you think the FBIs choice is going to affect the ammo supply so drastically. Their supply contracts are long term, small as a percentage of the total market, and always take precedent over retail purchases.
 
Someone care to make a .40 S&W story?
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The usual one is <whine>"it hurts"</whine>. Shoot it through a big enough gun.

The 40sw was created because of the 10mm. Some couldn't handle the power of the 10mm so they created 10mm lite later named 40sw.
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The .40 has the advantage over the 10mm, that a new size of gun does not need to be designed to accommodate it. "Rebarrel a 9 and you're good. " (maybe, sometimes. I read that these days it's more likely design to accomodate .40, and 9 is covered.).

The debate continues lol. Lets face it, this arguement is pretty dang close to the same as 41mag, 44mag and 45colt. All three no matter what will always have fans and haters. I own 2 9mm's, 1 40, and 2 45's. What do I shoot mostly? What ever I just finished reloading ammo for. Its kinda like asking a woman why she owns so many shoes/purses lol.
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Kind-a my thought. A lot of "Internet gun enthusiast community" people get worked up over it. It's like watching computer gamers bicker about video driver versions. Squabbling over minutae, by people who need real problems.

FBI just went back to 9mm, guess what ammo will be in stock during another ammo crunch?? 40 Short & Wimpy
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I've got most of a 5 gallon bucket of .40 brass. I'll be OK. Even if I just abandoned it on use, which I won't.

Shot Placement is Very Critical
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.40 will do.

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I don't shoot my 9mms, or my .45s, as well as my XD40. But the XD40 usually isn't with me, because it's also heavy. IMHO & YMMV.

And finally, MUST have a hand-to-hand plan & skills if the shooting doesn't work...
and you better be really good at it. Krav Maga or Aikido is suggested.
But any martial art, practiced regularly, is better than no hand-to-hand training at all.
Even old pharts with nothing but Tai Chi can whoop up on an untrained perp.
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I'm 60 years old, with a gimp knee, and dealing with the after-effects of radiation for cancer. Ain't grapping' nobody. Or running.

FBI just went back to 9mm
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I'm not FBI, "lawn forcement" or an "operator" of any sort, whatever that is. I get to make my own judgements.
 
Somebody has to stand up against this government backed plan to force the metric system down are throats. The same "scientists" who conjured up this latest FBI "test" were working for Al Gore a few years ago making up "global warming facts". Their fathers were the "scientists" who assured us that 5.56 mm bullets were better that .30 cal. ones! SEE! More metric system hooey. Stand tall, OP, and keep at least one .40 cal. for the good of the American way of life. Oh, and my CZ75 is one sweet shooting pistol, you need to pick up one of those regardless.:)
 
Really not sure why you'd ask the question--I don't think most adults care what you buy, what you carry, what you prefer or why. But you did ask the question. It begs the question in return, why? Here we go basically with another caliber 'discussion'.

You have fun with and enjoy shooting a particular gun, be it in 9mm, .22, .380 or 44 Mag, you go forth and enjoy. You choose to defend yourself with a 44 snub nose or a .32 H&R 5 shot revolver, it doesn't and shouldn't matter to me.

So, "I like" 40SW, it's okay for a tiny little pocket gun for CCW, and it's an absolute blast for IDPA ESP or USPSA shooting. It's fun to load, fun to shoot.

"I don't like 9mm". I dislike/have no interest in the cartridge for about 20 reasons. SO WHAT? Doesn't have ANY bearing on what you enjoy or buy. There's 20 reasons another shooter might love it, and those reasons are just as valid as my preferences/prejudices.

Enjoy. That's the key, I think.

Over-arching all matters of caliber, for me, the one fundamental guideline is that selling any firearm I own has about a 90% likelihood of bringing some dissatisfaction to me, so I'm not one to buy-and-sell. I buy, then I shoot. I don't collect.

Even if I made the doofus mistake of buying something in 9mm, I wouldn't ever sell it. I'd shoot it. :D

[that was a JOKE guys]

I'm not FBI, "lawn forcement" or an "operator" of any sort, whatever that is. I get to make my own judgements.
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No kidding. I was in the DoD for 21 years, as I'm sure were many here on this forum. Anyone who has been employed by government, at any level, should be able to reassure you--the decisions a bureaucracy makes, at any level or any reason and of any kind, probably (not 'may') have almost nothing to do with any single criteria such as 'effectiveness' or 'life cycle cost' or any other thing you can think of.

If it's a fact "the FBI just went back to 9mm" and that fact suggests to you it was because of the superiority of the 9mm cartridge in accomplishing some objective important to YOU, I'd say you're snortin' Ajax. So far as you know, their main objective could have been 'we don't want to upset the public or ever be in the news because of our use of a powerful weapon' or 'we got an incredible deal on these guns' or 'it costs us 5% less to train our folks' or any other number of factors having nothing to do with 9mm.

And such decisions really can be driven by pretty much one single person and that person's loyal cronies. I've been there.

You're buying a toy...buy it for whatever reason you choose.
 
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If I have something that I just don't use I have no problems getting rid of it, but that said, it's not a bad idea to have at least one handgun chambered in 9mm, .40 and .45. I personally like the .40 and .45 the best but I have no issues at all carrying and using the 9mm.

I personally think the .40 is fantastic, I can carry a G23 and run 180gr HST's for self defense, load up some powder puff handloads that recoil less than a 9mm or take my G35 and run 180gr XTP's to 1300 fps with handloads, that's 10mm levels, so the .40 can cover a LOT of ground.

I got out of the 10mm for that reason, just don't see the need for pricier brass that burns more powder when the .40 gets me there, plus for a real step up in power over the bottom feeders I have revolvers. Nothing against the 10mm but to me it's not a worthwhile step up above the .40, but the .41 magnum certainly is.

I keep several 9's, .40's and .45's around (and a .357 Mag, .41 mag, 454 etc) because I just like them and honestly, sometimes I'm in a .40 mood. The next week I may be in a .45 mood and then I might get into a 9mm mood and it goes on and on like that. If I got rid of one, what will I do when the mood strikes? Go buy a gun in that caliber and start all over again? I think I've finally learned to just keep them!
 
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