Held at gunpoint, what to do?

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This has been interesting. But . . .

I have a serious question. What if my wife and I "find" ourselves confronted by a BG or two and I am packing.

What should my wife do?

A. Should she step behind me, ie I shield her?

B. Or, should she step away from me, distract the BG and allow me to draw and do my thing with her out of the line of fire?

C. Or what?
 
I'd go with C: draw her own weapon and start shooting! Any woman I marry is going to pack heat of her own and get the training to back it up.
 
1. Assume that you are already dead.

2. Do not get into any vehicle with the perp.

3. Throw your keys as far as you can away from the scene immediately.

4. He has the drop on you. If you are carrying, assume he will blow your head off if you try to draw.

5.Throw your billfold at him and go for broke hoping to hold him off long enough so that your siginificant other can escape. You have two options: fight or flight. In this scenario since o mte is there, you must fight.

6. Talk this scenario over with your mate ahead of time and have a plan of action.

7. Never,Never,Never,Never Give Up!

8. Make as much noise as possible and go crazy on the perp. He will expect you to freeze-up and stay quiet. Do the unexpected and it may save your life. You have nothing to lose anyway.

9. Rely on your senses and reflexes.

I have been a situation where a sawed-off 12 gauge was pointed in my face in a convienience store. When the bad guy turned his head to reach into the cash register, I ran. Thank God he was drunk. I was by myself and the flight mode kicked in.

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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
 
Karla is my ex-wife. She is ex for a reason. That woman is wide enough to qualify as concealment and thick enough to qualify as cover. This woman is large enough to have her own gravity and taking 4 hours for a meal is normal. 4 hour breakfast, followed by a 4 hour lunch, immediately followed by a 4 hour dinner. Then it is bedtime and sleep for the other 12 hours. She is dense enough that you could shoot her with a full auto 9mm using FMJ ammo and not worry about a slug passing through. I am taking cover behind the impenatrable Karla and begin marching her toward them. I would verbally abuse them and dare them to shoot at me. As I get closer I will begin shooting from my protected position, with the forearm of my shooting arm nicely locked into a flab fold on the side of her midsection. With her arm at her side my arm would be locked in and that pistol would be as stable as if it were in a Ransom rest.
 
Nice one, Jeff.

What about the question somebody asked--does your unarmed companion try to hide behind you or get away from you?

Not being an expert, my fiance has agreed that we will begin separating when confronted and that if any kind of fight breaks out she'll run for help and I'll follow when I can.

I do this for a couple of reasons.
First, unless she's wearing high heels, she's actually about as fast as I am (I'm strong, but SLOOOOWWWW.)
Second, my reasoning is that it would be almost impossible to stay behind a person who is trying to move around and win a real fight. And what will she do if I go down?
My way, she is farther from the combat, if I go down she's still farther away, and either way, help gets to us sooner than if she stayed. I don't really expect to be able to win a fight with two opponents but I think I could force both to concentrate on me.

Does that make sense?
 
JeffO, "I think I soiled me armor..." Too funny.

Whenever possible, nearly always in fact, I drive my wife directly to the door of wherever we're going then go park the car. I do the reverse on the way out, retrieving the car and meeting her at the door(Malls, restaurant's, etc..) While she may be briefly without me inside the building there are usually others there and the likelihood of trouble is diminished. She is attuned to her surroundings as well which enhances her security.

I do this for a few reasons. I believe it's safer for her, first and foremost, as it removes the rape/abduction issue from a robbery scenario and it allows me to worry only about whether or not I have the option to run or have to take a butt kicking to defend myself. Under no circumstances would I run with her at my side. That ultimately leaves her alone and that is not an option under any circumstance.

Given the criteria here I would likely hand him some money, which in fact I rarely carry aside from a few dollars, and stay or run depending on the sense I had of how the rest would go down. They leave, and there are no problems concerning self defense, only one of being a good witness. If my sense is they wish to keep me from being a witness then I would do all that was necessary to win.

If my wife is with me under these circumstances, the dynamics would change and my first priority would be neither the money, nor wondering if I will take a butt kicking, but getting her safely out of the way if there is any sense they have any interest in her.

If there is a sense they are out to hurt her then we WILL have an unfettered, uncivilized, intensely personal rendition of whatever it takes to win their hearts and minds, if not their bodies.

Chris..
 
Yesterday I talked to a mugger apologist (who thought that their actions were excusable by the lack of economic opportunity). Made me that much less inclined to put my life on the line for that person.
 
I have an idea. Carry around one of those power cables that go into the cigarette lighter in the car (like the ones for a radar detector or CB). When the BG asks for money, pull the adapter end of the cord out, push down the button with your finger, and say "If you shoot me and I let off this button, they'll be mopping all of us up tomorrow!"

Maybe they'll think twice.
 
If your really lucky, they're paying so much attention to you trying to decide whether or not to expose the red "S" under your Clark Kent garb that they won't notice her draw her 2.5" Model 686 until she centerpunches them both.

Hey, in a perfect world...

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10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
First things first--- Did Carla order the lobster? :)

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Don't even come close to getting your gun out until after you've tossed your wallet down and are backing away. Distance! You want distance between your charge (Carla) and your adversary (BG). "Winning" is not the issue. Your pride is not the issue. Getting Carla home safely is the issue. Even if she later on thinks "What a wimp! He had a gun and wouldn't shoot it out with them!", your responsibility lies in getting her (and yourself) home safely, FIRST!


1. Toss wallet to ground at their feet.

2. Backpeddle.

3. Gun in hand.

4. Disengage as rapidly as possible.

5. Get your reward from Carla at home, after calling your credit card companies to cancel them and cancel your video cards, etc.
 
I would do the same thing that no doubt someone has said. Give them Carlas purse, then act like I am going for my wallet thats "in my pocket" push Carla behind me, pull out my P-32 shoot the guy with the gun twice in the upper torso. Shoot the other guy a couple of times. Call the cops. I have saved the day and Carla, that means I just scored points with her.
 
Hi, Alex,

Actually your spelling is good compared to some others on the thread. You are right in that this kind of thing gets folks going. Most seem to be hyped on guns and (as you note) short on the common sense that helps one to stay out of trouble in the first place. There is also sort of an idea that if one thinks it is self defense, everyone else will agree, and the shooter will be given a medal and the key to the city.

Being arrested, having to spend a life savings on bail money, facing trial on murder charges, facing a civil suit from the BG's family, all can result from using that Kel-Tec. Maybe in the "Old West", the law said "fair fight" and let the winner ride into the sunset. No more.

BTW, if you have a hand on the gun in your pocket, you don't draw - you shoot through the pocket. Which is why a shrouded hammer revolver beats auto pistols in this situation. They also sell overcoats and raincoats that have slit pockets; I recommend them.

Jim
 
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