Have you ever NEEDED a High-Cap Mag?

Reasons not to have a high cap mag in a major caliber:
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Ummm, all your reasons are very personal and subjective in nature. Therefore they will not apply to everybody, hence they might not be detrimental.
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Maybe I like big butts....... and my pistol grip can be fat too.

Heavier pistols are easier to control, due to less recoil.

If I have some of those long nose-pickin fingers, maybe the reach to the trigger is just right with a fat grip.

The old "spray and pray" argument..... might be valid for the unskilled or untrained.

Personally, I still would not want to be one of eight guys facing a competent .45 operator with 7 rounds in his gun. Do ya feel lucky today?
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I don't know, i'd personally feel worse if he had a 13 round magazine, because then he'd have enough ammo to serve everyone, and seconds for 5 of them!
 
Things I've never NEEDED but that I won't give up.

Smoke Alarms
Fire Extinguishers
Firearms
High-Cap Mags
Homeowners Insurance
Security System
Door Locks
Life Insurance
My Retirement Plan

In case you hadn't figured it out these are all things that I haven't NEEDED yet, but might need one day. Since I might need them it doesn't make sense for me to give them up on some politician's whim.
 
No, never needed add'l rounds...

Never needed to use a weapon [sound of knocking on wood].

However, one could argue the point that no matter how much capacity a magazine has, it's not enough. For me, that's where backup or additional mags come in...
 
Nightcrawler: Thanks for the links to Cooper's Commentaries!

Man, living in California is such a drag... especially if you got interested in this stuff after the bans were put in place.

I just don't understand it. I guess I should have a friend buy some and store them outside of California... prices will only continue to rise, right?
 
All things being equal (which they usually aren't) a higher capacity mag is preferable. Why not? It's better to have rounds left over than to run out. Are you likely to need more than 10? No. But there is always the possibility that you will.
If a dbl. stack design makes for a grip that is too large for you, that's an issue. For me, if I own a gun that was designed to hold more than 10 rounds, I want it to hold more than 10.
For concealed carry though, I feel comfortable with only 6 or 7 rounds.
One nice thing about the pre-ban mags is that if you're going to be shooting several hundred or more rounds at a time, like if you're attending a class, it means considerably less reloading.
 
For easy concealment, I personally would prefer if Glock made its slim line 36(.45) in .40 .357 & 9. Even at the expense of additional rounds. I think there would be a market for a slim 8 round single stack .40 Glock. Let's face it, it's a pain in the backside to carry a firearm. Smaller is better.
 
Nope. Never needed 30 rounds in a pistol. Nor have I needed a standard cap mag, with 13-17 rounds. Nor have I ever really even needed one round, thankfully.

Hi-cap=30-40. Standard cap=11-17. Using the bogus language the anti-gunners invented=being their chumps.
 
"Have you ever NEEDED a High-Cap Mag?"

No.

Can anyone document a case were someone placed thier rounds on target and still needed high capacity magazines? Bare in mind, finally placing a few rounds in a target after missing a dozen or so times hardly qualifies as "placing rounds on target."

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You cannot miss quickly or often enough to win a gunfight.
 
the question is ...

have you EVER - meaning, NOT what you think, or advise, or feel, but: have YOU...EVER... ? I haven't, some LEO's I'm sure have needed or felt they needed because of the situation at hand, perceived or real, but come on, guys - the majority of us REALLY haven't needed more than 6 or 7 rounds, probably haven't even fired off more than 2 or 3. Right?
Another way of phrasing the question: When was the LAST time you used half a high-cap to protect you and yours? I'm still interested in answers. ????
 
What does NEED have to do with it? Have I ever NEEDED a full-capacity magazine- hell yes, in the military. Have I ever needed one as a civie? No. Heck, I bet half of the people on this board never really NEEDED a gun! So what does NEED have to do with it? I want 'em, because I'd rather HAVE them and not NEED them than NEED them and not HAVE them. And it certainly can't hurt.;)
 
YES, very much so

Small game hunting with my carry pistol showed me how easy it is to miss on a moving target even up close. A 17-rd magazine would be empty within less than a minute of aimed fire. Would you score a hit? Not necessarily: the target may be firing back at you, partly obscured by concealment, protected by cover, moving, armored, just plain tough and not wiling to die after one shot.

I consider at least three standard magazines a must for every handgun. Five is preferable.

Take some training: you'll find that trying to re-load under stress while taking cover (from a magazine which has to be concealed) is harder thanyou think. You will find that you aren't a good shot when the target isn't a harmless stationary bullseye.
 
Consider the statistics

What are the odds that:

1. You will EVER be in a gun fight in your life.

2. You will be in a gun fight that requires more than 7+1 rounds.

When talking statistics #1 and #2 aren't all that far apart.
 
good answer, brian

... no one can argue with that. I still am curious how many answers can say something like: "Yup, took two of 'em down, seven of 'em were still comin, and I retreated 'cause my single stack went on empty!"
 
Robert Waters book "Best Defense" covered several incidents in which multiple standard mags were used. One instance had a gentleman go through several 15rd mags with a CZ75 because the multiple perps were far away and took cover behind a car.

Personally, I carry a G17(17x9mm) or a G21(13x.45) whenever possible, along with a spare magazine. The difference in weight between a 10rd and a 13rd magazine is minimal, difference in utility is considerable. Remember, that the poster is not asking single-stack or double-stack, he's asking crippled/standard magazines for existing double-stack guns.

I do carry guns with few rounds (as few as five of 22mag or seven 32acp) but that isn't by choice. Mostly, those are backups for better weapons. Even between a P9 (7) and a G26 (10), I recognize the advantage to the G26.
 
Please don't rationalise this in your head. You know the gun you're describing was designed for a 17 round magazine. You are prevented from purchasing a brand new 17 round magazine for that weapon because some other idiots said so.

This doesn't make it a need, don't need thing. It makes it a tragedy.

I've never needed a 10 round magazine, or for that matter an 8 or 7 rounder either. I won't however own a gun that is unable to function at it's full potential.

All my guns that were designed for large capacity magazine have them.
 
When did "need" enter into these discussions? I want my guns that were designed for 13/15/17 round mags to function at full capacity, why in the world would I want any less??? I suppose the folks that are the advocates of low capacity magazines have all five round mags for their AR's too, right? :)
 
One other consideration: I just jogged 1/2 mile to the bank to drop off checks. I had to endorse one of them and found that I could not write very steadily.

Just for kicks, do a quick run, preferably in a drizzle, and try to fire ona milk jug from behind cover at, say, 20ft. I bet you would find the number of misses higher than at the range.
 
That falls in the same category as "Have you ever NEEDED a firearm". ;)

Personally, I don't want to be sitting in a Luby's restaurant in...say...Killeen, Texas...and not be able to return at least half as much fire when some crazy lunatic decides to plow his truck through the front window and spray everybody with TWO hi-cap guns.

Anybody here older than ten? :rolleyes:
 
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