rickyjames
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Have a .357 and .44 Magnum... what should be my next gun??
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aarondhgraham
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I think it's official my friend,,,
You definitely need a .22 of some ilk.
Hard to beat the Ruger 22/45s,,,
I like my Beretta NEOS a lot as well.
You definitely need a .22 of some ilk.
Hard to beat the Ruger 22/45s,,,
I like my Beretta NEOS a lot as well.
Winterhawk56
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Interesting Question and great to read all the comments.
If I had a .357 and .44 mag and was looking for a third gun it would probably be a .40 caliber. Possibly a used Sig or something along that line and purchase a .357 Sig barrel in addition.
Shooting a .40 and the .357 Sig (9mm bullet) provides great accuracy, less expensive cost for ammo especially if you reload. Its great plinker and offers self defence and concelable.
If it were a rifle I would pick the .308 for the availability of different ammo, great to reload. A good Remington 700.
My opinion only and good luck with this one.
If I had a .357 and .44 mag and was looking for a third gun it would probably be a .40 caliber. Possibly a used Sig or something along that line and purchase a .357 Sig barrel in addition.
Shooting a .40 and the .357 Sig (9mm bullet) provides great accuracy, less expensive cost for ammo especially if you reload. Its great plinker and offers self defence and concelable.
If it were a rifle I would pick the .308 for the availability of different ammo, great to reload. A good Remington 700.
My opinion only and good luck with this one.
lomaxanderson
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800 bucks get a used ruger MKII 22 and a marlin 60, cheap scope and a couple brichs of ammo... It will be a blast
I'm surprised this thread got so far and no one suggested the 1911. There is a ton of models for $800 or less and it is one hell of a gun.
Now lets talk rifles. For right around $800 you can pick up (2) Rossi 92s for companions to your pistols. One in 357 and one in 44mag, that would be a hoot.
Now lets talk rifles. For right around $800 you can pick up (2) Rossi 92s for companions to your pistols. One in 357 and one in 44mag, that would be a hoot.
evenflow80
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Wow.
Never thought I'd get so many responses, in less than a day no less!!
The bizare thing about this is..... I was seriously considering a .22lr even before starting this thread. Now let me tell you my reasoning and my reasons for/against:
I have a gf who is somewhat recoil intolerant. She shoots very well, and has shot both my .44 Mag and .357 Mag once, but she prefers specials in either, and her recoil tolerance, according to her, is .38 Special (as shot from the 27 oz SP101 I have). She usually shoots about 50 rounds of that and calls it a day. For me though, that puts me in the awkward position of having to leave the range waaaaay earlier than I would like.
People have always suggested a .22lr many, many times before. And since the issue my gf has is ammo prices and recoil/muzzle flash (she hates both), I thought a .22lr might be ideal.
She told me she is open to the idea and wants one, but she also told me (after much grilling), is that she doesnt like how revolvers look and likes the sleeker more modern look of semi-autos.
So now I'm looking at either Walther P22's or a Mosquito. She doesn;t like the look of the Ruger MK series of guns (and honestly neither do I).
What do you guys recommend along those lines? What semi-auto .22lr??
With all the consistent recommendations, a .22lr is definately the way I'll go, now to just settle on a gun.
BTW with the Walthers I noticed some say "California legal"..... I live in Cali, what does that mean exactly? Ammo capacity??
Also, what benefits would a .22lr give ME, seeing as i'm already decent with .357 and .44 Mags? Besides ammo price of course....
Never thought I'd get so many responses, in less than a day no less!!
The bizare thing about this is..... I was seriously considering a .22lr even before starting this thread. Now let me tell you my reasoning and my reasons for/against:
I have a gf who is somewhat recoil intolerant. She shoots very well, and has shot both my .44 Mag and .357 Mag once, but she prefers specials in either, and her recoil tolerance, according to her, is .38 Special (as shot from the 27 oz SP101 I have). She usually shoots about 50 rounds of that and calls it a day. For me though, that puts me in the awkward position of having to leave the range waaaaay earlier than I would like.
People have always suggested a .22lr many, many times before. And since the issue my gf has is ammo prices and recoil/muzzle flash (she hates both), I thought a .22lr might be ideal.
She told me she is open to the idea and wants one, but she also told me (after much grilling), is that she doesnt like how revolvers look and likes the sleeker more modern look of semi-autos.
So now I'm looking at either Walther P22's or a Mosquito. She doesn;t like the look of the Ruger MK series of guns (and honestly neither do I).
What do you guys recommend along those lines? What semi-auto .22lr??
With all the consistent recommendations, a .22lr is definately the way I'll go, now to just settle on a gun.
BTW with the Walthers I noticed some say "California legal"..... I live in Cali, what does that mean exactly? Ammo capacity??
Also, what benefits would a .22lr give ME, seeing as i'm already decent with .357 and .44 Mags? Besides ammo price of course....
SilentHitz
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See my 1st post...was a 1911 with a .22 conversion kit, that way his GF would get to shoot .22, and he would have a .45acp
turbotype87
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Seeing as how you have the heavy hitters already, I'd suggest a high capacity 9mm or a colt delta elite in 10mm.
Seeing as how you have the heavy hitters already, I'd suggest a high capacity 9mm or a colt delta elite in 10mm.
jersey_emt
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Too easy...get a nice .22 LR pistol. The reasons have already been mentioned.
If you get a basic model Ruger or Browning Buck Mark you'll have plenty of cash left over with an $800-$900 budget. You could buy both the .22 LR and a nice 9mm semiautomatic for that amount. Perhaps a compact one -- a Glock 19 or a Sig P6 -- could be a good idea.
Your two revolvers, a .22 LR semiauto, and a 9mm semiauto would make for a pretty nicely rounded out handgun collection. The only thing "missing" would be a .45 ACP 1911.
The .45 ACP 1911 + .22 LR conversion kit would also be an excellent choice.
If you get a basic model Ruger or Browning Buck Mark you'll have plenty of cash left over with an $800-$900 budget. You could buy both the .22 LR and a nice 9mm semiautomatic for that amount. Perhaps a compact one -- a Glock 19 or a Sig P6 -- could be a good idea.
Your two revolvers, a .22 LR semiauto, and a 9mm semiauto would make for a pretty nicely rounded out handgun collection. The only thing "missing" would be a .45 ACP 1911.
The .45 ACP 1911 + .22 LR conversion kit would also be an excellent choice.
buckmark ****
If your GF likes sleek, check out some Buckmark ****. For 800 bucks you can trick these out nicely.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87052&page=19
If your GF likes sleek, check out some Buckmark ****. For 800 bucks you can trick these out nicely.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87052&page=19
Whatever handgun you buy, if you live in California make sure
it is on the Attorney General's list of approved handguns.
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/
California also has a ten round maximum magazine restriction.
Edward429451
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Yeah, get a superb .22
My recommendations:
1. A .22 pistol or rifle; in a pistol I'd recommend the Browning Buckmarks if you don't like the Rugers. They're much better thant the Walther P22 or SIG. If you decide on the SIG I recommend you shoot CCI Mini Mags through it as the gun is VERY reliable with this particular ammo but very un reliable with other regular .22 ammo. A Ruger single six with the .22lr and .22mag cylinders is a wonderful gun but it's a gate loader so you load one round at a time, then cock the hammer and shoot each round and then unload each spent casing throught the gate so it's a very slow deliberate process. I like it but some like a semi.
2. A 9mm handgun that fits you and is reliable. For your budget there are lots and lots of choices. 9mm is fun because it's some of the cheapest centerfire ammo out there, so you can shoot more, and the recoil is very modest and yet it's a good defensive round.
3. A .22 that is a rifle if you already bought the pistol or a pistol if you got the rifle
4. A Marlin 1894C lever action rifle chambered in .357. Same ammo as the Ruger. Recoil of even hot .357's shot out of the gun is modest to downright soft with .38 Specials. It's a very good home defense gun. It's a LOT of fun to shoot. You can mount a scope on the Marlins (they have solid top receivers). You can hunt deer with it at close range and small game with the .38's but mainly it's just a beautiful and very fun gun that's not too expensive to shoot.
5. A 1911 in .45 ACP. I'd recommend a Springfield Loaded Model. Don't get a plan jane or stripped down model with the idea of "customizing it later" if you like it. You will, get it up front the way you want it. 1911's have a special power. the .45 ACP does have a good deal of kick but it's more of a push and a thump than a snap or crack which makes it more manageable to shoot.
Finally, I'd focus on select calibers and not end up with a lot of different calibers. It's costly and hard to stock up.
I love .40 for SD BUT I don't like the very snappy "crack" type recoil of a .40 so I don't have them.
I focused on 9mm .38/357 and .45 in pistols.
One last option. If you're looking for something VERY fun, cool looking, good for home self defense (although I think a handgun is best for SD), then I would recommend you consider a Berretta Storm CX4 in 9mm. Virtually no recoil, not too expensive to shoot. it's short and wonderful to handle. has great ergonomics and looks cool as all get out!!! It used very common available mags so you can get 15 or even 20 and 30 round mags for it and have a blast!!!
A lot of folks will recommend a shotgun. I do not. I do think every home should have one good shottie, but shotguns kick and kick hard unless you get an auto. Even then they kick and they tend to be heavy and the ammo is costly and bulky (well not bird shot) Ranges that allow you to shoot them are fewer and other than shooting trap or skeet you won't have the shooting opportunities you would with the other recommendations. I haven't met too many ladies who looked forward to going and shooting the shotguns!!
whew....so many guns and so little money and time
Enjoy and God Bless
Gideon
1. A .22 pistol or rifle; in a pistol I'd recommend the Browning Buckmarks if you don't like the Rugers. They're much better thant the Walther P22 or SIG. If you decide on the SIG I recommend you shoot CCI Mini Mags through it as the gun is VERY reliable with this particular ammo but very un reliable with other regular .22 ammo. A Ruger single six with the .22lr and .22mag cylinders is a wonderful gun but it's a gate loader so you load one round at a time, then cock the hammer and shoot each round and then unload each spent casing throught the gate so it's a very slow deliberate process. I like it but some like a semi.
2. A 9mm handgun that fits you and is reliable. For your budget there are lots and lots of choices. 9mm is fun because it's some of the cheapest centerfire ammo out there, so you can shoot more, and the recoil is very modest and yet it's a good defensive round.
3. A .22 that is a rifle if you already bought the pistol or a pistol if you got the rifle
4. A Marlin 1894C lever action rifle chambered in .357. Same ammo as the Ruger. Recoil of even hot .357's shot out of the gun is modest to downright soft with .38 Specials. It's a very good home defense gun. It's a LOT of fun to shoot. You can mount a scope on the Marlins (they have solid top receivers). You can hunt deer with it at close range and small game with the .38's but mainly it's just a beautiful and very fun gun that's not too expensive to shoot.
5. A 1911 in .45 ACP. I'd recommend a Springfield Loaded Model. Don't get a plan jane or stripped down model with the idea of "customizing it later" if you like it. You will, get it up front the way you want it. 1911's have a special power. the .45 ACP does have a good deal of kick but it's more of a push and a thump than a snap or crack which makes it more manageable to shoot.
Finally, I'd focus on select calibers and not end up with a lot of different calibers. It's costly and hard to stock up.
I love .40 for SD BUT I don't like the very snappy "crack" type recoil of a .40 so I don't have them.
I focused on 9mm .38/357 and .45 in pistols.
One last option. If you're looking for something VERY fun, cool looking, good for home self defense (although I think a handgun is best for SD), then I would recommend you consider a Berretta Storm CX4 in 9mm. Virtually no recoil, not too expensive to shoot. it's short and wonderful to handle. has great ergonomics and looks cool as all get out!!! It used very common available mags so you can get 15 or even 20 and 30 round mags for it and have a blast!!!
A lot of folks will recommend a shotgun. I do not. I do think every home should have one good shottie, but shotguns kick and kick hard unless you get an auto. Even then they kick and they tend to be heavy and the ammo is costly and bulky (well not bird shot) Ranges that allow you to shoot them are fewer and other than shooting trap or skeet you won't have the shooting opportunities you would with the other recommendations. I haven't met too many ladies who looked forward to going and shooting the shotguns!!
whew....so many guns and so little money and time
Enjoy and God Bless
Gideon
Sadly, In California, buying a new .22LR Autoloader, you are limited to:
Walther P22CA
Walther SP22
Ruger's .22 line - MkIII and 22/45
S&W 22A
S&W 22S
S&W Model 41
Kimber Rimfire Target
Sig Mosquito
Beretta U22 Neos
Beretta 87 (including target model)
Browning Buckmark
If you exclude the Ruger due to its looks, then I'd lean to either the Walther or Browning Buckmark as replacements. I've head of dissatisfaction with the S&W 22A, Mosquito and the Neos pistols. The S&W 41 is a superb gun but more expensive.
S&W Model 41 (older style) target .22
If you can find one lightly used and still in good shape, the discontinued S&W Model 422 (622 in stainless) is a very good performer. These steel/alloy pistols weigh in around 24 oz and are fun little tack drivers. Prices should be under $350 today for a like-new pistol.
Model 422, 6-inch barrel
Model 422, 4-inch barrel
Walther P22CA
Walther SP22
Ruger's .22 line - MkIII and 22/45
S&W 22A
S&W 22S
S&W Model 41
Kimber Rimfire Target
Sig Mosquito
Beretta U22 Neos
Beretta 87 (including target model)
Browning Buckmark
If you exclude the Ruger due to its looks, then I'd lean to either the Walther or Browning Buckmark as replacements. I've head of dissatisfaction with the S&W 22A, Mosquito and the Neos pistols. The S&W 41 is a superb gun but more expensive.
S&W Model 41 (older style) target .22
If you can find one lightly used and still in good shape, the discontinued S&W Model 422 (622 in stainless) is a very good performer. These steel/alloy pistols weigh in around 24 oz and are fun little tack drivers. Prices should be under $350 today for a like-new pistol.
Model 422, 6-inch barrel
Model 422, 4-inch barrel
evenflow80
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AAAARGHHH.... Geideon you just got me started thinking about a .45ACP!!!
BillCA, good to see someone who knows (and lives?) in CA. The restrictions here SUCK. Every time someone says a certain gun, I have to Google and make sure I can even GET it here in CA.
Like Gideon said.... so many guns, so little time and money.....
BillCA, good to see someone who knows (and lives?) in CA. The restrictions here SUCK. Every time someone says a certain gun, I have to Google and make sure I can even GET it here in CA.
Like Gideon said.... so many guns, so little time and money.....