Handgunners: anyone consider a pistol caliber carbine for their home defense gun?
- Thread starter Smaug
- Start date
Speaking from personal experience for home defence I use a Mossberg 500riot gun with #4 shot. Last idiot who tried to kick in my door won't kick in any more doors. and his partner is doing 25 to Life. Trust me a shotgun is easy to handle and more accurate than a pistol or rifle/carbine for home defence. Consider this set of facts, unless you are a trained Law Enforcement or have Combat experience.
1. You may wake up groggy from sleep.
2. You will be in an adrenaline rush an start shaking. Hunters call it buck fever.
3. Last and most important #4 shot at 10 to 15 feet will be fatal but wont be if it hits a sheet rock wall so no collateral damage.
1. You may wake up groggy from sleep.
2. You will be in an adrenaline rush an start shaking. Hunters call it buck fever.
3. Last and most important #4 shot at 10 to 15 feet will be fatal but wont be if it hits a sheet rock wall so no collateral damage.
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
While the walls are unrealistically close in this test, note that #4 buckshot penetrates 6 5/8" sheets of drywall with no problem from about 15'.
Nothing that meets the FBI required minimum penetration in ballistic gel is going to stop in a sheet rock wall. Anything that stops in a sheet rock wall is going to be very shallow on penetration and will be less reliable in stopping an attacker.
#4 buckshot will penetrate 14-15" of bare ballistics gel, which means it still poses a lethal threat to people on the other side of those walls. Please plan accordingly.
I don't want to drag the thread off topic; but I would hate to think that someone ends up maiming or killing someone close to them because they had the mistaken idea that 5/8" of powdered gypsum backed by paper would stop any projectile suitable for defensive use.
collector rob
New member
How about some info on that stock mod? That looks great! I have a PC40 that could use something like that.
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
wwd8888 said:
Rather than drag this further off-topic, let me just link you to several informative links/threads where we can continue this discssion:
Man shoots attacker in face with #6 shot from 16 gauge at less than 2 yards. Attacker kills man with buckshot
People who survived being shot in the head with birdshot by running away/fighting back
Birdshot for home defense
While I have 3 carbines to choose from (357mag '92, M1 Carb, AR15) that span a century of carbine development (1892, 1942, 1992), I find that the M1 carbine is my best choice. Loaded with my 110grn JHP handloads, the round has good HD performance, is reliable, accurate, and the wife is comfortable with it.
the pair of beretta's (carbine and pistol) sharing the same mag, or the keltec sub2k and glock or beretta 92 pistols(the keltec is offered with the beretta grip or the glock i'm pretty sure) would be a great HD setup or for SHTF as they use the same ammo and magazines. why argue over which is better? put the pistol in your holster, give the pistol caliber carbine to your wife, and grab your rifle (mine is a mini 14 tactical with the ATI stock) and take care of business! or you could get the taurus/rossi circut judge and have .410 or .45lc or both paired up with a poly judge in the pants. that would total 10 rounds of .410 triple ought buck (= 50 .36 cal pellets)