Handgun Construction Methods and Materials

Is your handgun a Rolex or a Timex?


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It is a metallurgical truism that greater strength and toughness are achieved by forging an alloy part than could be obtained by casting it. Going by the market prices of comparable items, a frame machined out of a steel forging might cost twice as much as an investment cast part, and three to four times as much as a part machined out of, or cast in, an aluminum alloy. Further along these lines, the marginal cost of injection molding a polymer handgun frame is negligible, the only significant expense involved in its making being the construction of the mold.

Manufacturers that apply inferior construction methods to weaker materials are apt to tell the public that technology has advanced to the point where they can make as strong a gun at a lower price. Likewise, a $29.99 plastic Timex watch will tell the time at least as well as a $27,300 platinum Rolex. But to my mind, judging a sidearm as essentially nothing more than a lead-slinging sled misses the point as much as judging a watch as essentially nothing more than a time-keeping accessory. It would be equally misleading to extol "real fighting guns" produced by Glock and Beretta pursuant to lowball bids for government procurement, by disparaging polished aristocratic badges of rank engendered by the old regime along the lines of the DWM P08 Parabellum or the Radom Vis 35. But while Rolex is hanging on to its place among the 100 top brands by selling sports watches priced over $5,000, there remains but one series production handgun brand devoid of shortcuts and compromises.

Would you entrust your life to a Rolex or a Timex?
 
Timex. Every day. I got three of 'em (two for flash and one for work) and need nothing more. What fool wears a Rolex to work? What Rolex can take the battering and be so easily replaced? I have no rank, just a proletarian. To paraphrase, "Badges? I need no stinkin' badges."

tipoc
 
Which handgun?

The one on my hip is all hand-fitted from machined steel forgings. The one in my pocket employs a cylinder machined from a forging, a forged alloy frame, and MIM lockwork. The one in my purse has a forged alloy frame, machined titanium cylinder, and MIM internals.

I try to not attribute too much woo-woo to any given sidearm; I'd like to become more practiced in the school of the sword of no sword.
 
The [handgun] on my hip is all hand-fitted from machined steel forgings.
Probably not. I am willing to bet that it has more than a few parts milled out of bar stock, if not stamped out of sheet or sintered out of powder.
 
Little misleading because many of us have more than one watch and handgun...:D

I normally wear a 1981 vintage Oyster Perpetual Datejust in stainless steel. I also have three Seikos and a Hamilton.

Likewise I have 2 SIG 210s and my BHP is an Israeli FN which IIRC was machined from forgings. All of those are rolexes

I cant recall if my Seecamp is cast or forged. But its a Rolex

Now my Colt Defender has a machined forged slide, but an Aluminum frame so its a Rolex with a plastic band.

The Webley is machined form a forging (1916) so its a vintage rolex. The Nagants are all machined from forgings but are they Rolexes?:eek:.

I got other handguns laying around, i just dont know what they are:p

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Larvatus said:
I am willing to bet that it has more than a few parts milled out of bar stock, if not stamped out of sheet or sintered out of powder.

I'll take that bet. Your Rolex against a watch I'll go fetch from a gumball machine?

(I don't wear a watch. A gigabuck Swiss clickbox ain't luxury; luxury is not needing to know what time it is. :p )
 
Sigh.

I just realized that I owe Larvatus a gumball machine Bolex. I'd forgotten that I'd specified an STI trigger with a titanium bow and polycarbonate shoe. He should PM me with the address to which he'd like his precision timepiece delivered; alternatively, I could present one in his name to a neighborhood urchin. I await his instruction. :o
 
My P210 is maybe a Patek Philippe and way too rich for me.

My taste in guns and watches shakes out around Omega.
But I mostly wear a CWC or Marathon these days, carry a Kahr, and save the 1968 Seamaster for dress, along with my Commander.
 
I sport a 50's Oyster Perpetual Air-King (steel) most days, but I don't really know if my carry guns fall into that class or not.

-Early 90's Browning Hi-Power.

-Seecamp .32 made in the last year or two.

I'm pretty sure the Seecamp frame is made from a casting; the HP I'm not so sure about. I think they went to cast frames when they introduced the .40s&w right around that time, so it could probably go either way.

For a while I carried a pre-27 Smith, that one is a Rolex, but I don't shoot it as well as other guns. Unfortunate.
 
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If all nails were made out of titanium, they would be "stronger" and "tougher" than nails made out of steel. I see no reason that investment cast steel handguns do not provide adequate strength for what they are intended for. Added strength of forging over casting may be like wearing an extra parachute when sky diving (main, reserve, another main).
 
So what am I?

Carry weapons:

XD9...Beretta 92fs...Bersa .380...STI Spartan...Ruger GP100

Watches:

Seiko Perpetual Calender...Fossil...Ironman

Each one has different uses...work, play, etc...

We are a young family so my money gets wrapped up in other things like daycare, diapers, formula...

Beentown
 
I want to reply to your poll, but you're being so coy with your metaphors that I'm not sure anyone has any idea what the hell you're really talking about (I know I don't).

Come out and say what you're gonna say.
 
I just realized that I owe Larvatus a gumball machine Bolex. I'd forgotten that I'd specified an STI trigger with a titanium bow and polycarbonate shoe. He should PM me with the address to which he'd like his precision timepiece delivered; alternatively, I could present one in his name to a neighborhood urchin. I await his instruction. :o
Nothing short of personal delivery will do. ;)
 
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